Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Matt Morris
Just an fyi, the quadro k4000 is around 4 times slower than a 780 gtx for
redshift rendering...

On Wednesday, 2 April 2014, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 btw...most scenes, that you have already built in Softimage, will render
just fine with the Redshift render
 instead of the mentalray render. You probably won't have to re-plug any
nodes, unless you used bump or displacement.
 There are some differences, but as I said before, not many.

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:15 PM, David Rivera 
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello everyone. I´ve been recommended -not enough through :) - that I
switch to Redshift render.
 So finally I upgraded my Quadro card to K4000. Up until now, I´m very
very very much impressed
 with MODO 3D (my 3d package of transition) and results are astonishing.
I can almost feel the
 Realtime engines like Crytek or UDK for PS4.
 So being our software of preference, I´m trying to pick up a GPU
renderer (Redshift) in softimage.
 One thing I´m trying to wrap my head around it´s the entire rebuild
connectivity of materials
 for redshift.

 So if anyone, please, has a blog or an article to share to strat up my
baby steps on using Redshift I´d appreciate it
 deeply thankful to help me out with that.

 Cheers.

 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel


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Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Yeah, if you're on time for a return it might be worth considering. The K4K
isn't great bang for buck, it has a massive quadro label overhead to the
price and it's not really that well featured.
I don't know if 4x is an actual measure of the difference, I don't have
both cards at hand to test nor redshift, but it's openly underspecced.


Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Tim Borgmann
I've both cards and the 780 seems to be round about 3 times faster than 
the quadro when rendering with redshift.


Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Stephan Haitz
What really speeds up Redshift is VRAM on the graphicsCard to avoid slow 
PCIe Traffic... 4GB and more makes a big difference.


I select my cards with this priorities:

1. VRAM
2. GPU-Cores
3. Mhz
4. ...

Good idea is a second card only for rendering: no memory used for 
display stuff, complete VRAM for Rendering...


BTW: They are just out with the V1!

Regards Stephan

I've both cards and the 780 seems to be round about 3 times faster 
than the quadro when rendering with redshift.




Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Matt Morris
Just double checked my test figures and it is more like 3 times, sorry for
the confusion. This is on an indoor environment with a single character
with hair, GI and DoF. On heavier environments/multiple characters the
titan really shines.

2 quadro k4000 - 284.8 s

quadro k4000 - 509.7
s

Titan  - 146.8 s


GTX 780- 172.5 s




On 2 April 2014 09:59, Tim Borgmann i...@bt-3d.de wrote:

 I've both cards and the 780 seems to be round about 3 times faster than
 the quadro when rendering with redshift.




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Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread olivier jeannel

I have a Quadro 4000 and this has been discussed other Redshift forum.
It's not bad for Open GL working, but defenetly not for rendering

Quadro 4000 has around 400 cores while Titan has around 3000 cores. Also 
comes the Memory 2Gb against 6Gb, and I can't tell for the Mhz but 
overall it doesnt compare at all.


According to the RS team you could expect the Titan to be at least 3 or 
4 time faster than Quadro 4000



Le 02/04/2014 09:13, Raffaele Fragapane a écrit :
Yeah, if you're on time for a return it might be worth considering. 
The K4K isn't great bang for buck, it has a massive quadro label 
overhead to the price and it's not really that well featured.
I don't know if 4x is an actual measure of the difference, I don't 
have both cards at hand to test nor redshift, but it's openly 
underspecced.




Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Leoung O'Young

Is that the GTX 780 ti or just the regular GTX 780?



On 02/04/2014 5:17 AM, Matt Morris wrote:
Just double checked my test figures and it is more like 3 times, sorry 
for the confusion. This is on an indoor environment with a single 
character with hair, GI and DoF. On heavier environments/multiple 
characters the titan really shines.


2 quadro k4000 - 284.8 s

quadro k4000 - 509.7 s

Titan - 146.8 s

GTX 780 - 172.5 s




On 2 April 2014 09:59, Tim Borgmann i...@bt-3d.de 
mailto:i...@bt-3d.de wrote:


I've both cards and the 780 seems to be round about 3 times faster
than the quadro when rendering with redshift.




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Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Matt Morris
Its a regular 780 -  Gigabyte 780 windforce 3x - and one of the older gen
asus titans.


On 2 April 2014 16:35, Leoung O'Young digim...@digimata.com wrote:

  Is that the GTX 780 ti or just the regular GTX 780?






Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Leoung O'Young
Thanks Matt, I am just shopping for some cards and find there are so 
many makers and flavors.
I narrowed down to these 3, although the 770 are quite a bit cheaper 
than the 780



 EVGA Nvidia GTX 680 Graphics card 2GB

*EVGA GeForce GTX780 Dual w/ ACX Cooler FTW 980MHZ 3GB 384BIT 6008MHZ 
DVI HDMI SLI Graphics Card*



 GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-4GD GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express
 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


On 02/04/2014 11:56 AM, Matt Morris wrote:
Its a regular 780 -  Gigabyte 780 windforce 3x - and one of the older 
gen asus titans.



On 2 April 2014 16:35, Leoung O'Young digim...@digimata.com 
mailto:digim...@digimata.com wrote:


Is that the GTX 780 ti or just the regular GTX 780?







RE: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Phil Harbath
I have both and the 780 is probably worth the price difference

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Thanks Matt, I am just shopping for some cards and find there are so 
many makers and flavors.
I narrowed down to these 3, although the 770 are quite a bit cheaper 
than the 780


  EVGA Nvidia GTX 680 Graphics card 2GB

*EVGA GeForce GTX780 Dual w/ ACX Cooler FTW 980MHZ 3GB 384BIT 6008MHZ 
DVI HDMI SLI Graphics Card*


  GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-4GD GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express
  3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


On 02/04/2014 11:56 AM, Matt Morris wrote:
 Its a regular 780 -  Gigabyte 780 windforce 3x - and one of the older 
 gen asus titans.


 On 2 April 2014 16:35, Leoung O'Young digim...@digimata.com 
 mailto:digim...@digimata.com wrote:

 Is that the GTX 780 ti or just the regular GTX 780?






Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Matt Morris
If you can wait (and have slightly deeper pockets) the 780 6Gb will be out
at the end of april - shouldn't be that much more expensive than the 780
according to early reports.

That will be the best bang for buck card for RS, as the memory will really
help with larger scenes.

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Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-02 Thread Leoung O'Young

Matt, thanks for the suggestion.

On 02/04/2014 12:46 PM, Matt Morris wrote:
If you can wait (and have slightly deeper pockets) the 780 6Gb will be 
out at the end of april - shouldn't be that much more expensive than 
the 780 according to early reports.


That will be the best bang for buck card for RS, as the memory will 
really help with larger scenes.


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Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-01 Thread David Rivera
Hello everyone. I´ve been recommended -not enough through :) - that I switch to 
Redshift render.
So finally I upgraded my Quadro card to K4000. Up until now, I´m very very very 
much impressed
with MODO 3D (my 3d package of transition) and results are astonishing. I can 
almost feel the
Realtime engines like Crytek or UDK for PS4.

So being our software of preference, I´m trying to pick up a GPU renderer 
(Redshift) in softimage.
One thing I´m trying to wrap my head around it´s the entire rebuild 
connectivity of materials
for redshift. 


So if anyone, please, has a blog or an article to share to strat up my baby 
steps on using Redshift I´d appreciate it
deeply thankful to help me out with that.


Cheers.

 
David Rivera
3D Compositor/Animator
LinkedIN
Behance
VFX Reel

Re: Redshift - GPU accel on Quadro K4000

2014-04-01 Thread Stephen Davidson
There are only a handful of specific nodes that are unique to Redshift3D.
Everything else is exactly like you are used to in the Materials (nodes) in
Softimage.
They did a great job making it almost seamless

a unique example... if you want to bumpmap some object, you would select
the Redshift bumpmap node,
instead of the regular mentalray bumpmap node. That is one of the nodes
that is specific to Redshift.
And you would plug the outpuit directly into the Material input, not the
shader.

On the pass, or scene, you specify the Redshift render instead of Mentalray
and you also need to adjust the
render settings.

The default gamma is set to 2.2, and in most cases you should change that
to 1.0.
Other than that, the options are very similar to what you are used to with


Sorry for the rambling description instead of a decent tutorial, but they
are working on a set of tutorials
right now, and should be available soon.

You will not take long to adapt to this, I found it extremely easy to use.
The docs http://docs.redshift3d.com/Default.html are very complete.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:15 PM, David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Hello everyone. I´ve been recommended -not enough through :) - that I
 switch to Redshift render.
 So finally I upgraded my Quadro card to K4000. Up until now, I´m very very
 very much impressed
 with MODO 3D (my 3d package of transition) and results are astonishing. I
 can almost feel the
 Realtime engines like Crytek or UDK for PS4.

 So being our software of preference, I´m trying to pick up a GPU renderer
 (Redshift) in softimage.
 One thing I´m trying to wrap my head around it´s the entire rebuild
 connectivity of materials
 for redshift.

 So if anyone, please, has a blog or an article to share to strat up my
 baby steps on using Redshift I´d appreciate it
 deeply thankful to help me out with that.

 Cheers.

 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv
 Behance https://www.behance.net/3dcinetv
 VFX Reel https://vimeo.com/70551635




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Best Regards,
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 - Arthur C. Clarke

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