Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
I have a cintiq that I use infrequently. I still much prefer the Intuos 5 touch for its flexibility and portability, especially when utilizing multiple monitors. The cintiqs let you use its screen to control a second monitor, but I don't like the functionality. I use the cintiq for design or drawing, but its essentially just a second screen when using 3d apps. I also have a surface pro3. which has been fantastic when paired with the intuos 5. The lack of USB ports is my annoyance at the SP3, but nothing a usb hub didn't take care of. The pen with the SP3 is useless when compared with the Intuos 5. Adam On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:23 PM, James De Colling <james.decoll...@gmail.com > wrote: > I tried out both the 13 and 16" mobile studios. the 2.5k screen on the 13 > and 4k on 16 look great in a matte finish. the pen holder is a little pokey > thing that slots in the side and sorta-kinda holds your pen, not very > convincingly. they are quite heavy, but the side buttons feel nice, and > they do get hot on the sides since the vents are on each side now. the > intel realsense 3d capture was quite fun though, for very basic stuff. > > no dock is also a killer, you get a dinky little bluetooth keyboard, but > since you cant physically connect it, (and there is no built-in stand) its > a "why?" kinda moment. > > the price and the fact the disreet gpu is for some reason a > quadro (seriously, why not a regular geforce?) makes it unattractive to me, > especially with nice 2in1's coming onto the market so you get the best of > both worlds (Lenovo Yoga 460 / P40, Surface Book etc) > > james. > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Martin <furik...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Btw, you can use an iPad Pro as a Cintiq replacement with Duet Pro. It >> would be a simple solution if you already have an iPad. >> >> I had a surface pro 3. The stylus buttons functions are not configurable, >> you can only use right click and eraser. Since I use a lot middle click in >> almost every software (XSI, Maya, Zbrush, 3DCoat, etc) I really hate it. >> >> The Wacom Companion is very bulky. I don't own one but one of our >> designers does and I've borrow it a few times. The screen looks too grainy >> for my taste but otherwise it seems quite useful. You can use it as a >> another screen in your desktop PC but have some limitations in the >> resolution if you want to use it as a mirror display. >> >> The new MobileStudio looks very nice in the pictures, but I haven't touch >> one yet and I'm not very interested in portable solutions. >> >> Personally I'm still using my old Intuos and waiting for the new Cintiqs. >> >> Martin >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 28 Dec 2016, at 19:51, <pete...@skynet.be> <pete...@skynet.be> wrote: >> >> My suggestion for the surface book as alternative to a Cintiq was *as a >> standalone with digitizer and a keyboard*. >> If you want an input device for an existing workstation - replacing an >> intuos with a cintiq - then a Surface will do you no good. >> >> The Cintiq Companion is interesting as it can do double service as >> ‘mobile studio’ and input device. (at least certain models can) >> You pay for it of course, and they are very bulky tablets. One that >> almost made sense to me was the Companion Hybrid: reasonably priced (for a >> Wacom) - about the same as a Cintiq 13 – so its like you get the Android >> tablet part for free. Also rather outdated now - and drawing in an app is >> too gimmicky for real work. >> >> If you swear by Wacom as a brand, the pen in the surface hasn’t been >> Wacom since the surface 2 – it’s N-trig now (bought by microsoft). >> Wacom remains superior for drawing, but when considering the complete >> picture, with display quality, form factor, performance, storage, price, >> battery life – it certainly doesn’t come without its flaws. >> >> Bottom line: input device and/or mobile studio – it’s an ongoing quest. >> >> >> >> *From:* Martin Yara <furik...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 3:39 PM >> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List.https://groups.google.com >> /forum/#!forum/xsi_list <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Wacom Cintiq 13 >> >> If you can live with a stencil with useless buttons that can't be >> changed, no nibs options, lower sensitivity, no tilt feature and generally >> less precision, then a Surface Book isn't bad. >> >> The buttons were a deal breaker for me. I'm not really sure if you can >> use it as a tablet in another PC. I know that you can do that with a Wacom >>
Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
I tried out both the 13 and 16" mobile studios. the 2.5k screen on the 13 and 4k on 16 look great in a matte finish. the pen holder is a little pokey thing that slots in the side and sorta-kinda holds your pen, not very convincingly. they are quite heavy, but the side buttons feel nice, and they do get hot on the sides since the vents are on each side now. the intel realsense 3d capture was quite fun though, for very basic stuff. no dock is also a killer, you get a dinky little bluetooth keyboard, but since you cant physically connect it, (and there is no built-in stand) its a "why?" kinda moment. the price and the fact the disreet gpu is for some reason a quadro (seriously, why not a regular geforce?) makes it unattractive to me, especially with nice 2in1's coming onto the market so you get the best of both worlds (Lenovo Yoga 460 / P40, Surface Book etc) james. On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Martin <furik...@gmail.com> wrote: > Btw, you can use an iPad Pro as a Cintiq replacement with Duet Pro. It > would be a simple solution if you already have an iPad. > > I had a surface pro 3. The stylus buttons functions are not configurable, > you can only use right click and eraser. Since I use a lot middle click in > almost every software (XSI, Maya, Zbrush, 3DCoat, etc) I really hate it. > > The Wacom Companion is very bulky. I don't own one but one of our > designers does and I've borrow it a few times. The screen looks too grainy > for my taste but otherwise it seems quite useful. You can use it as a > another screen in your desktop PC but have some limitations in the > resolution if you want to use it as a mirror display. > > The new MobileStudio looks very nice in the pictures, but I haven't touch > one yet and I'm not very interested in portable solutions. > > Personally I'm still using my old Intuos and waiting for the new Cintiqs. > > Martin > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28 Dec 2016, at 19:51, <pete...@skynet.be> <pete...@skynet.be> wrote: > > My suggestion for the surface book as alternative to a Cintiq was *as a > standalone with digitizer and a keyboard*. > If you want an input device for an existing workstation - replacing an > intuos with a cintiq - then a Surface will do you no good. > > The Cintiq Companion is interesting as it can do double service as ‘mobile > studio’ and input device. (at least certain models can) > You pay for it of course, and they are very bulky tablets. One that almost > made sense to me was the Companion Hybrid: reasonably priced (for a Wacom) > - about the same as a Cintiq 13 – so its like you get the Android tablet > part for free. Also rather outdated now - and drawing in an app is too > gimmicky for real work. > > If you swear by Wacom as a brand, the pen in the surface hasn’t been Wacom > since the surface 2 – it’s N-trig now (bought by microsoft). > Wacom remains superior for drawing, but when considering the complete > picture, with display quality, form factor, performance, storage, price, > battery life – it certainly doesn’t come without its flaws. > > Bottom line: input device and/or mobile studio – it’s an ongoing quest. > > > > *From:* Martin Yara <furik...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 3:39 PM > *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List.https://groups.google. > com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> > *Subject:* Re: Wacom Cintiq 13 > > If you can live with a stencil with useless buttons that can't be changed, > no nibs options, lower sensitivity, no tilt feature and generally less > precision, then a Surface Book isn't bad. > > The buttons were a deal breaker for me. I'm not really sure if you can use > it as a tablet in another PC. I know that you can do that with a Wacom > Companion but not sure about Surface. > > I'd choose a new Cintiq 16" that will be available next year. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Can the Surface Book screen replace a Cintiq on a regular" workstation ? >> >> 2016-12-27 11:20 GMT+01:00 Rob Wuijster <r...@casema.nl>: >> >>> Surface Studio?? ;) >>> >>> Rob >>> \/-\/\/ >>> >>> On 25-12-2016 22:10, pete...@skynet.be wrote: >>> >>> A bit late to get one under the tree. >>> >>> If I had that kind of money, I’d much rather get a Surface Book. >>> Cintiq keyboard options are underwhelming - that’s a dealbreaker for 3D >>> I think. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:17 PM >&
Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
Btw, you can use an iPad Pro as a Cintiq replacement with Duet Pro. It would be a simple solution if you already have an iPad. I had a surface pro 3. The stylus buttons functions are not configurable, you can only use right click and eraser. Since I use a lot middle click in almost every software (XSI, Maya, Zbrush, 3DCoat, etc) I really hate it. The Wacom Companion is very bulky. I don't own one but one of our designers does and I've borrow it a few times. The screen looks too grainy for my taste but otherwise it seems quite useful. You can use it as a another screen in your desktop PC but have some limitations in the resolution if you want to use it as a mirror display. The new MobileStudio looks very nice in the pictures, but I haven't touch one yet and I'm not very interested in portable solutions. Personally I'm still using my old Intuos and waiting for the new Cintiqs. Martin Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Dec 2016, at 19:51, <pete...@skynet.be> <pete...@skynet.be> wrote: > > My suggestion for the surface book as alternative to a Cintiq was *as a > standalone with digitizer and a keyboard*. > If you want an input device for an existing workstation - replacing an intuos > with a cintiq - then a Surface will do you no good. > > The Cintiq Companion is interesting as it can do double service as ‘mobile > studio’ and input device. (at least certain models can) > You pay for it of course, and they are very bulky tablets. One that almost > made sense to me was the Companion Hybrid: reasonably priced (for a Wacom) - > about the same as a Cintiq 13 – so its like you get the Android tablet part > for free. Also rather outdated now - and drawing in an app is too gimmicky > for real work. > > If you swear by Wacom as a brand, the pen in the surface hasn’t been Wacom > since the surface 2 – it’s N-trig now (bought by microsoft). > Wacom remains superior for drawing, but when considering the complete > picture, with display quality, form factor, performance, storage, price, > battery life – it certainly doesn’t come without its flaws. > > Bottom line: input device and/or mobile studio – it’s an ongoing quest. > > > > From: Martin Yara > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 3:39 PM > To: Official Softimage Users Mailing > List.https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list > Subject: Re: Wacom Cintiq 13 > > If you can live with a stencil with useless buttons that can't be changed, no > nibs options, lower sensitivity, no tilt feature and generally less > precision, then a Surface Book isn't bad. > > The buttons were a deal breaker for me. I'm not really sure if you can use it > as a tablet in another PC. I know that you can do that with a Wacom Companion > but not sure about Surface. > > I'd choose a new Cintiq 16" that will be available next year. > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Can the Surface Book screen replace a Cintiq on a regular" workstation ? >> >> 2016-12-27 11:20 GMT+01:00 Rob Wuijster <r...@casema.nl>: >>> Surface Studio?? ;) >>> >>> Rob >>> \/-\/\/ >>>> On 25-12-2016 22:10, pete...@skynet.be wrote: >>>> A bit late to get one under the tree. >>>> >>>> If I had that kind of money, I’d much rather get a Surface Book. >>>> Cintiq keyboard options are underwhelming - that’s a dealbreaker for 3D I >>>> think. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Olivier Jeannel >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:17 PM >>>> To: sidefx-houdini-l...@sidefx.com ; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>> Subject: Wacom Cintiq 13 >>>> >>>> Is anyone using a Cintiq for 3D work (Houdini/XSI) ? >>>> >>>> Just wondering, my intuos is slowly dying... >>>> >>>> Cheers and Mery Christmas >>>> -- >>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Softimage Mailing List. >>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with >>> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and
Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
My suggestion for the surface book as alternative to a Cintiq was *as a standalone with digitizer and a keyboard*. If you want an input device for an existing workstation - replacing an intuos with a cintiq - then a Surface will do you no good. The Cintiq Companion is interesting as it can do double service as ‘mobile studio’ and input device. (at least certain models can) You pay for it of course, and they are very bulky tablets. One that almost made sense to me was the Companion Hybrid: reasonably priced (for a Wacom) - about the same as a Cintiq 13 – so its like you get the Android tablet part for free. Also rather outdated now - and drawing in an app is too gimmicky for real work. If you swear by Wacom as a brand, the pen in the surface hasn’t been Wacom since the surface 2 – it’s N-trig now (bought by microsoft). Wacom remains superior for drawing, but when considering the complete picture, with display quality, form factor, performance, storage, price, battery life – it certainly doesn’t come without its flaws. Bottom line: input device and/or mobile studio – it’s an ongoing quest. From: Martin Yara Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 3:39 PM To: Official Softimage Users Mailing List.https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list Subject: Re: Wacom Cintiq 13 If you can live with a stencil with useless buttons that can't be changed, no nibs options, lower sensitivity, no tilt feature and generally less precision, then a Surface Book isn't bad. The buttons were a deal breaker for me. I'm not really sure if you can use it as a tablet in another PC. I know that you can do that with a Wacom Companion but not sure about Surface. I'd choose a new Cintiq 16" that will be available next year. On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> wrote: Can the Surface Book screen replace a Cintiq on a regular" workstation ? 2016-12-27 11:20 GMT+01:00 Rob Wuijster <r...@casema.nl>: Surface Studio?? ;) Rob \/-\/\/On 25-12-2016 22:10, pete...@skynet.be wrote: A bit late to get one under the tree. If I had that kind of money, I’d much rather get a Surface Book. Cintiq keyboard options are underwhelming - that’s a dealbreaker for 3D I think. From: Olivier Jeannel Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:17 PM To: sidefx-houdini-l...@sidefx.com ; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Wacom Cintiq 13 Is anyone using a Cintiq for 3D work (Houdini/XSI) ? Just wondering, my intuos is slowly dying... Cheers and Mery Christmas -- -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.-- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
If you can live with a stencil with useless buttons that can't be changed, no nibs options, lower sensitivity, no tilt feature and generally less precision, then a Surface Book isn't bad. The buttons were a deal breaker for me. I'm not really sure if you can use it as a tablet in another PC. I know that you can do that with a Wacom Companion but not sure about Surface. I'd choose a new Cintiq 16" that will be available next year. On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can the Surface Book screen replace a Cintiq on a regular" workstation ? > > 2016-12-27 11:20 GMT+01:00 Rob Wuijster <r...@casema.nl>: > >> Surface Studio?? ;) >> >> Rob >> \/-\/\/ >> >> On 25-12-2016 22:10, pete...@skynet.be wrote: >> >> A bit late to get one under the tree. >> >> If I had that kind of money, I’d much rather get a Surface Book. >> Cintiq keyboard options are underwhelming - that’s a dealbreaker for 3D I >> think. >> >> >> >> *From:* Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:17 PM >> *To:* sidefx-houdini-l...@sidefx.com ; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> *Subject:* Wacom Cintiq 13 >> >> Is anyone using a Cintiq for 3D work (Houdini/XSI) ? >> >> Just wondering, my intuos is slowly dying... >> >> Cheers and Mery Christmas >> >> -- >> -- >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> >> >> -- >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with >> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> >> >> >> -- >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> > > > -- > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. > -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
Can the Surface Book screen replace a Cintiq on a regular" workstation ? 2016-12-27 11:20 GMT+01:00 Rob Wuijster <r...@casema.nl>: > Surface Studio?? ;) > > > Rob > \/-\/\/ > > On 25-12-2016 22:10, pete...@skynet.be wrote: > > A bit late to get one under the tree. > > If I had that kind of money, I’d much rather get a Surface Book. > Cintiq keyboard options are underwhelming - that’s a dealbreaker for 3D I > think. > > > > *From:* Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:17 PM > *To:* sidefx-houdini-l...@sidefx.com ; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Wacom Cintiq 13 > > Is anyone using a Cintiq for 3D work (Houdini/XSI) ? > > Just wondering, my intuos is slowly dying... > > Cheers and Mery Christmas > > -- > -- > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. > > > -- > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with > "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. > > > > -- > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. > -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
Surface Studio?? ;) Rob \/-\/\/ On 25-12-2016 22:10, pete...@skynet.be wrote: A bit late to get one under the tree. If I had that kind of money, I’d much rather get a Surface Book. Cintiq keyboard options are underwhelming - that’s a dealbreaker for 3D I think. *From:* Olivier Jeannel <mailto:facialdel...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:17 PM *To:* sidefx-houdini-l...@sidefx.com <mailto:sidefx-houdini-l...@sidefx.com> ; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Subject:* Wacom Cintiq 13 Is anyone using a Cintiq for 3D work (Houdini/XSI) ? Just wondering, my intuos is slowly dying... Cheers and Mery Christmas -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Re: Wacom Cintiq 13
A bit late to get one under the tree. If I had that kind of money, I’d much rather get a Surface Book. Cintiq keyboard options are underwhelming - that’s a dealbreaker for 3D I think. From: Olivier Jeannel Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 3:17 PM To: sidefx-houdini-l...@sidefx.com ; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Wacom Cintiq 13 Is anyone using a Cintiq for 3D work (Houdini/XSI) ? Just wondering, my intuos is slowly dying... Cheers and Mery Christmas -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.-- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Wacom Cintiq 13
Is anyone using a Cintiq for 3D work (Houdini/XSI) ? Just wondering, my intuos is slowly dying... Cheers and Mery Christmas -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
