Re: forrest version?

2006-01-30 Thread Yoav Shapira
Why Forrest?  I think it's over-engineered for simple sites.  The
xdocs approach is so much easier to understand and use on a regular
basis.  See e.g.
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/logging/site/trunk/.

Yoav

On 1/30/06, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sigh.  When I deleted most of the stuff to get a barebones site, I'm
 back to the same error.
 I guess the next step is to build a devel version of forrest and hope
 it works (or hope for an understandable error message at least).

 -Yonik

 On 1/29/06, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What version of forrest are people using to build nutch?
 
  I downloaded the prebuilt forrest 0.7, executed forrest.bat in
  nutch/src/site, and it failed (I used the .bat version, because the
  normal shell script failed even faster under cygwin).
 
  The error:
  X [0] linkmap.html  BROKEN: No pipeline 
  matc
  hed request: linkmap-linkmap.html
 
  Then I tried forrest.bat in forrest's own site-author, and that failed too.
 
  Last, I tried forrest.bat seed, then I tried to build that, and it
  worked!  So that's what I'm starting from (and crossing my fingers).
 
  -Yonik
 



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Yoav Shapira
System Design and Management Fellow
MIT Sloan School of Management
Cambridge, MA, USA
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Re: forrest version?

2006-01-30 Thread Yonik Seeley
I started with Forrest simply because Nutch and the top level Lucene use it.

-Yonik

On 1/30/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why Forrest?  I think it's over-engineered for simple sites.  The
 xdocs approach is so much easier to understand and use on a regular
 basis.  See e.g.
 http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/logging/site/trunk/.

 Yoav

 On 1/30/06, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sigh.  When I deleted most of the stuff to get a barebones site, I'm
  back to the same error.
  I guess the next step is to build a devel version of forrest and hope
  it works (or hope for an understandable error message at least).
 
  -Yonik
 
  On 1/29/06, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What version of forrest are people using to build nutch?
  
   I downloaded the prebuilt forrest 0.7, executed forrest.bat in
   nutch/src/site, and it failed (I used the .bat version, because the
   normal shell script failed even faster under cygwin).
  
   The error:
   X [0] linkmap.html  BROKEN: No 
   pipeline matc
   hed request: linkmap-linkmap.html
  
   Then I tried forrest.bat in forrest's own site-author, and that failed 
   too.
  
   Last, I tried forrest.bat seed, then I tried to build that, and it
   worked!  So that's what I'm starting from (and crossing my fingers).
  
   -Yonik
  
 


 --
 Yoav Shapira
 System Design and Management Fellow
 MIT Sloan School of Management
 Cambridge, MA, USA
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.yoavshapira.com



Re: forrest version?

2006-01-30 Thread Doug Cutting

Yoav Shapira wrote:

OK, consistency is a good value.  I still think it's more of a pain
than it's worth, unless Nutch/Lucene are using Forrest features that
can't be done far more simply.  We could achieve the same look and
feel via CSS skinning I'd imagine...  But since I don't have much
bandwidth to spend on this, I don't want to lobby too hard: if you're
comfortable with Forrest for consistency's sake, that's cool.


I thought that Forrest would be simpler, since we could just clone stuff 
in Nutch.  I'm not in love with Forrest.  If you think another way would 
be simpler yet, have at it.


I don't think the look-and-feel do not need to match other projects too 
closely.


For the record, I used forrest-0.6 on Nutch and Lucene TLP.

Doug


Re: Things to do

2006-01-30 Thread Doug Cutting

Ian Holsman wrote:
Doug mentioned that we could use the lucene 'zone' to get a working demo 
of Solr which I think we should start as soon as we can get a build going.


We certainly could do this, but I'm not sure that we should.  A real 
Solr demo will be read/write, and I'm not sure we want to support a 
read/write demo on lucene.zones.apache.org, with random folks on the 
internet able to write to it.


What would be really cool to build on lucene.zones.apache.org using solr 
is a mail-archive search app.  mail-archives.apache.org supports rss 
feeds for all mailing lists, so we could simply write a daemon that 
periodically polls the feed for each list and stuffs all new messages 
into a solr index.


Doug


Re: svn commit: r373402 - in /incubator/solr/trunk/src/test/org: ./ apache/ apache/solr/ apache/solr/analysis/ apache/solr/analysis/TestSynonymFilter.java

2006-01-30 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Nutch is a Lucene sub-project, and it uses org.apache.nutch, not 
org.apache.lucene.nutch.
I'd follow that for consistency's sake, until we see a problem.

Otis

- Original Message 
From: Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: solr-dev@lucene.apache.org
Cc: solr-commits@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Sun 29 Jan 2006 08:00:51 PM EST
Subject: Re: svn commit: r373402 - in /incubator/solr/trunk/src/test/org: ./ 
apache/ apache/solr/ apache/solr/analysis/ 
apache/solr/analysis/TestSynonymFilter.java

On 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Still need to rename the org.apache.lucene package classes to org.apache.solr
 (or do we want org.apache.lucene.solr?)

Many of the things in the lucene package (FunctionQuery and
SynonymFilter) could be moved to org.apache.solr, and renamed to
org.apache.lucene if/when they officially become part of lucene.

But the other reason for the org.apache.lucene package is for
accessing package-protected lucene stuff.  Currently there is just
PublicFieldSortedHitQueue, but there was more when we used Lucene 1.4.

Anyone have thoughts about that?  Should the lucene package in solr go
away? (after making FieldSortedHitQueue public, of course ;-)

-Yonik





Re: svn commit: r373402 - in /incubator/solr/trunk/src/test/org: ./ apache/ apache/solr/ apache/solr/analysis/ apache/solr/analysis/TestSynonymFilter.java

2006-01-30 Thread Doug Cutting

Yonik Seeley wrote:

Many of the things in the lucene package (FunctionQuery and
SynonymFilter) could be moved to org.apache.solr, and renamed to
org.apache.lucene if/when they officially become part of lucene.

But the other reason for the org.apache.lucene package is for
accessing package-protected lucene stuff.  Currently there is just
PublicFieldSortedHitQueue, but there was more when we used Lucene 1.4.


Everything that's not required to be in a lucene package for access 
reasons should be in org.apache.solr.  And we should try to fix Lucene 
so that nothing has to be in its packages.


Doug


Re: solr home page

2006-01-30 Thread Yonik Seeley
Hmmm, the c in Gospodnetic got messed up somewhere in the chain of things...

I put it in the source xdoc as #263; and that worked in the local preview.
That turned into C487 in the generated XML (which still looks fine
if I point by browser at the local file).
When it's served up by apache though, it doesn't work.

Ideas?

-Yonik


On 1/30/06, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Basic web site is up.

 http://incubator.apache.org/solr/

 Built with Forrest 0.7, it grew on me after I got over the stumbling blocks.
 I discovered that forrest run also allows you to change the source
 documents and just hit reload in the browser... no need to rebuild to
 see the changes.

 -Yonik