Re: Basic questions about Solr cost in programming time
Hi! Of course the answer depends (as usually) very much on the features you want to realize. But Solr can be set up very fast. When we created our first prototype, it took us about a week to get it running with spell phoneme search, spell checking, facetting - and even collapsing (using the famous 236-patch). It is definitely very nice that you can do a lot of things using the available components and only configuring them inside solrconfig.xml and schema.xml. And you may well start with the standard distribution. Cheers, Sven --On Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 12:00 -0800 Jeff Crump jcr...@hq.mercycorps.org wrote: Hi, I hope this message is OK for this list. I'm looking into search solutions for an intranet site built with Drupal. Eventually we'd like to scale to enterprise search, which would include the Drupal site, a document repository, and Jive SBS (collaboration software). I'm interested in Lucene/Solr because of its scalability, faceted search and optimization features, and because it is free. Our problem is that we are a non-profit organization with only three very busy programmers/sys admins supporting our employees around the world. To help me argue for Solr in terms of total cost, I'm hoping that members of this list can share their insights about the following: * About how many hours of programming did it take you to set up your instance of Lucene/Solr (not counting time spent on optimization)? * Are there any disadvantages of going with a certified distribution rather than the standard distribution? Thanks and best regards, Jeff Jeff Crump jcr...@hq.mercycorps.org
Basic questions about Solr cost in programming time
Hi, I hope this message is OK for this list. I'm looking into search solutions for an intranet site built with Drupal. Eventually we'd like to scale to enterprise search, which would include the Drupal site, a document repository, and Jive SBS (collaboration software). I'm interested in Lucene/Solr because of its scalability, faceted search and optimization features, and because it is free. Our problem is that we are a non-profit organization with only three very busy programmers/sys admins supporting our employees around the world. To help me argue for Solr in terms of total cost, I'm hoping that members of this list can share their insights about the following: * About how many hours of programming did it take you to set up your instance of Lucene/Solr (not counting time spent on optimization)? * Are there any disadvantages of going with a certified distribution rather than the standard distribution? Thanks and best regards, Jeff Jeff Crump jcr...@hq.mercycorps.org
Re: Basic questions about Solr cost in programming time
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jeff Crump jcr...@hq.mercycorps.orgwrote: Hi, I hope this message is OK for this list. I'm looking into search solutions for an intranet site built with Drupal. Eventually we'd like to scale to enterprise search, which would include the Drupal site, a document repository, and Jive SBS (collaboration software). I'm interested in Lucene/Solr because of its scalability, faceted search and optimization features, and because it is free. Our problem is that we are a non-profit organization with only three very busy programmers/sys admins supporting our employees around the world. To help me argue for Solr in terms of total cost, I'm hoping that members of this list can share their insights about the following: * About how many hours of programming did it take you to set up your instance of Lucene/Solr (not counting time spent on optimization)? For me this generally took 30 to 70 hours to create the entire search application depending on the features on the web application and the complexity of the site. * Are there any disadvantages of going with a certified distribution rather than the standard distribution? The people at Lucid Imagination can probably provide a better answer for this. It is not really a disadvantage to go with the certified version but you may have to pay in order to get the certified distribution. However, you will get dedicated support if you happen to run into any issues or need technical assistance. If you use the standard version you can always get help from the mailing list if you have any issues. Thanks and best regards, Jeff Jeff Crump jcr...@hq.mercycorps.org -- Good Enough is not good enough. To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once. http://www.israelekpo.com/
Re: Basic questions about Solr cost in programming time
Having worked quite a bit on the Drupal integration - here's my quick take: If you have someone help you the first time, you can have a basic implementation running in Jetty in about 15 minutes. On your own, a couple hours maybe. For a non-public site (intranet) with modest traffic and no requirements for high availability, that is likely going to hold you for a while. If you are not already using tomcat6 and want a more robust deployment, getting that right will take you a couple days work I'd guess. There are already some options for indexing/searching documents via the Drupal integration, but that's still a little rough. Of course, we'd also be happy to have you get Drupal support and a hosted Solr index from us at Acquia. http://acquia.com/products-services/acquia-search-features However, I don't think you'll readily be able to use our service with Jive at the moment - you don't really describe why you'd be using both Jive and Drupal. If you are not doing any customization and compiling the java isn't something you enjoy, I'd think the certified distribution is a fine place to start and you can get with it Lucid's free PDF book, which is, I think, by far the best and most comprehensive Solr 1.4 reference work that exists at the moment. -Peter On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jeff Crump jcr...@hq.mercycorps.org wrote: Hi, I hope this message is OK for this list. I'm looking into search solutions for an intranet site built with Drupal. Eventually we'd like to scale to enterprise search, which would include the Drupal site, a document repository, and Jive SBS (collaboration software). I'm interested in Lucene/Solr because of its scalability, faceted search and optimization features, and because it is free. Our problem is that we are a non-profit organization with only three very busy programmers/sys admins supporting our employees around the world. To help me argue for Solr in terms of total cost, I'm hoping that members of this list can share their insights about the following: * About how many hours of programming did it take you to set up your instance of Lucene/Solr (not counting time spent on optimization)? * Are there any disadvantages of going with a certified distribution rather than the standard distribution? Thanks and best regards, Jeff Jeff Crump jcr...@hq.mercycorps.org -- Peter M. Wolanin, Ph.D. Momentum Specialist, Acquia. Inc. peter.wola...@acquia.com
