Re: Note on The Book

2013-06-09 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
It's 2013 and people suffer from ADD.  Break it up into a la carte
chapter books.

Otis
--
Solr  ElasticSearch Support
http://sematext.com/





On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com wrote:
 Markus,

 Okay, more pages it is!

 -- Jack Krupansky

 -Original Message- From: Markus Jelsma
 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:35 PM

 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: RE: Note on The Book

 Jack,

 I'd prefer tons of information instead of a meager 300 page book that leaves
 a lot of questions. I'm looking forward to a paperback or hardcover book and
 price doesn't really matter, it is going to be worth it anyway.

 Thanks,
 Markus



 -Original message-

 From:Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com
 Sent: Wed 29-May-2013 15:10
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Note on The Book

 Erick, your point is well taken. Although my primary interest/skill is to
 produce a solid foundation reference (including tons of examples), the
 real
 goal is to then build on top of that foundation.

 While I focus on the hard-core material - which really does include some
 narrative and lots of examples in addition to tons of mere reference, my
 co-author, Ryan Tabora, will focus almost exclusively on... narrative and
 diagrams.

 And when I say reference, I also mean lots of examples. Even as the
 hard-core reference stabilizes, the examples will continue to grow (like
 weeds!).

 Once we get the current, existing, under-review, chapters packaged into
 the
 new book and available for purchase and download (maybe Lulu, not decided)
 -
 available, in a couple of weeks, it will be updated approximately every
 other week, both with additional reference material, and additional
 narrative and diagrams.

 One of our priorities (after we get through Stage 0 of the next few weeks)
 is to in fact start giving each of the long Deep Dive Chapters enough
 narrative lead to basically say exactly that - why you should care.

 A longer-term priority is to improve the balance of narrative and
 hard-core
 reference. Yeah, that will be a lot of pages. It already is. We were at
 907
 pages and I was about to drop in another 166 pages on update handlers when
 O'Reilly threw up their hands and pulled the plug. I was estimating 1200
 pages at that stage. And I'll probably have another 60-80 pages on update
 request processors within a week or so. With more to come. That did
 include
 a lot of hard-core material and example code for Lucene, which won't be in
 the new Solr-only book. By focusing on an e-book the raw page count alone
 becomes moot. We haven't given up on print - the intent is eventually to
 have multiple volumes (4-8 or so, maybe more), both as cheaper e-books ($3
 to $5 each) and slimmer print volumes for people who don't need everything
 in print.

 In fact, we will likely offer the revamped initial chapters of the book as
 a
 standalone introduction to Solr - narrative introduction (why should you
 care about Solr), basic concepts of Lucene and Solr (and why you should
 care!), brief tutorial walkthough of the major feature areas of Solr, and
 a
 case study. The intent would be both e-book and a slim print volume (75
 pages?).

 Another priority (beyond Stage 0) is to develop a detailed roadmap diagram
 of Solr and how applications can use Solr, and then use that to show how
 each of the Deep Dive sections (heavy reference, but gradually adding more
 narrative over time.)

 We will probably be very open to requests - what people really wish a book
 would actually do for them. The only request we won't be open to is to do
 it
 all in only 300 pages.

 -- Jack Krupansky

 -Original Message- From: Erick Erickson
 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:19 AM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Note on The Book

 FWIW, picking up on Alexandre's point. One of my continual
 frustrations with virtually _all_
 technical books is they become endless pages of details without ever
 mentioning why
 the hell I should care. Unfortunately, explaining use-cases for
 everything would only make
 the book about 10,000 pages long. Siiigh.

 I guess you can take this as a vote for narrative

 Erick

 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com
 wrote:
  We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first
  raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2
  weeks.
  As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. I'll
  keep your email on file and keep you posted.
 
  -- Jack Krupansky
 
  -Original Message- From: Swati Swoboda
  Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM
  To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
  Subject: RE: Note on The Book
 
 
  I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and 
  your
  draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get
  it).
 
  Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc.
  for
  the book for those

Re: Note on The Book

2013-06-09 Thread Jack Krupansky
Point taken. Although initially the focus is on one big e-book - to make 
searching easier, with zero chance of printing that as one paper book, the 
intent is to go multi-volume for the print edition down the road a little 
bit.


-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- 
From: Otis Gospodnetic

Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 2:12 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

It's 2013 and people suffer from ADD.  Break it up into a la carte
chapter books.

Otis
--
Solr  ElasticSearch Support
http://sematext.com/





On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com 
wrote:

Markus,

Okay, more pages it is!

-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- From: Markus Jelsma
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:35 PM

To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Note on The Book

Jack,

I'd prefer tons of information instead of a meager 300 page book that 
leaves
a lot of questions. I'm looking forward to a paperback or hardcover book 
and

price doesn't really matter, it is going to be worth it anyway.

Thanks,
Markus



-Original message-


From:Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com
Sent: Wed 29-May-2013 15:10
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

Erick, your point is well taken. Although my primary interest/skill is to
produce a solid foundation reference (including tons of examples), the
real
goal is to then build on top of that foundation.

While I focus on the hard-core material - which really does include some
narrative and lots of examples in addition to tons of mere reference, 
my

co-author, Ryan Tabora, will focus almost exclusively on... narrative and
diagrams.

And when I say reference, I also mean lots of examples. Even as the
hard-core reference stabilizes, the examples will continue to grow (like
weeds!).

Once we get the current, existing, under-review, chapters packaged into
the
new book and available for purchase and download (maybe Lulu, not 
decided)

-
available, in a couple of weeks, it will be updated approximately every
other week, both with additional reference material, and additional
narrative and diagrams.

One of our priorities (after we get through Stage 0 of the next few 
weeks)

is to in fact start giving each of the long Deep Dive Chapters enough
narrative lead to basically say exactly that - why you should care.

A longer-term priority is to improve the balance of narrative and
hard-core
reference. Yeah, that will be a lot of pages. It already is. We were at
907
pages and I was about to drop in another 166 pages on update handlers 
when

O'Reilly threw up their hands and pulled the plug. I was estimating 1200
pages at that stage. And I'll probably have another 60-80 pages on update
request processors within a week or so. With more to come. That did
include
a lot of hard-core material and example code for Lucene, which won't be 
in

the new Solr-only book. By focusing on an e-book the raw page count alone
becomes moot. We haven't given up on print - the intent is eventually to
have multiple volumes (4-8 or so, maybe more), both as cheaper e-books 
($3
to $5 each) and slimmer print volumes for people who don't need 
everything

in print.

In fact, we will likely offer the revamped initial chapters of the book 
as

a
standalone introduction to Solr - narrative introduction (why should you
care about Solr), basic concepts of Lucene and Solr (and why you should
care!), brief tutorial walkthough of the major feature areas of Solr, and
a
case study. The intent would be both e-book and a slim print volume (75
pages?).

Another priority (beyond Stage 0) is to develop a detailed roadmap 
diagram

of Solr and how applications can use Solr, and then use that to show how
each of the Deep Dive sections (heavy reference, but gradually adding 
more

narrative over time.)

We will probably be very open to requests - what people really wish a 
book

would actually do for them. The only request we won't be open to is to do
it
all in only 300 pages.

-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- From: Erick Erickson
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:19 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

FWIW, picking up on Alexandre's point. One of my continual
frustrations with virtually _all_
technical books is they become endless pages of details without ever
mentioning why
the hell I should care. Unfortunately, explaining use-cases for
everything would only make
the book about 10,000 pages long. Siiigh.

I guess you can take this as a vote for narrative

Erick

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com
wrote:
 We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first
 raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2
 weeks.
 As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. 
 I'll

 keep your email on file and keep you posted.

 -- Jack Krupansky

 -Original Message- From: Swati Swoboda
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM

Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-29 Thread Yago Riveiro
IMHO I prefer narrative, as Erick says, explain all use-cases it's impossible, 
cover the base cases is a good start.  Either way I miss a book about solr 
different to a cookbook or a guide.  

Regards.

--  
Yago Riveiro
Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig)


On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Erick Erickson wrote:

 FWIW, picking up on Alexandre's point. One of my continual
 frustrations with virtually _all_
 technical books is they become endless pages of details without ever
 mentioning why
 the hell I should care. Unfortunately, explaining use-cases for
 everything would only make
 the book about 10,000 pages long. Siiigh.
  
 I guess you can take this as a vote for narrative
  
 Erick
  
 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com 
 (mailto:j...@basetechnology.com) wrote:
  We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first
  raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2 weeks.
  As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. I'll
  keep your email on file and keep you posted.
   
  -- Jack Krupansky
   
  -Original Message- From: Swati Swoboda
  Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM
  To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org (mailto:solr-user@lucene.apache.org)
  Subject: RE: Note on The Book
   
   
  I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and your
  draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get it).
   
  Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc. for
  the book for those who would like to receive updates on the status of the
  book?
   
  Thanks
   
  Swati Swoboda
  Software Developer - Igloo Software
  +1.519.489.4120 sswob...@igloosoftware.com 
  (mailto:sswob...@igloosoftware.com)
   
  Bring back Cake Fridays – watch a video you’ll actually like
  http://vimeo.com/64886237
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:j...@basetechnology.com]
  Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:15 PM
  To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org (mailto:solr-user@lucene.apache.org)
  Subject: Note on The Book
   
  To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two
  others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news:
  The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going
  to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a somewhat
  reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope of
  the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than
  800 pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide”
  just wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr
  is just too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene
  as well.
   
  I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an
  e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of
  guide as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual
  print volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue
  is to offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book,
  with the promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised
  content and new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual
  e-book volumes would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel
  free to let me know what seems reasonable or excessive.
   
  For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral
  bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer both –
  which should be considered “premium”?
   
  I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get the
  “raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.
   
  For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have
  been in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next
  month or two or three.
   
  Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent
  contribution of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still
  great contributions to general knowledge about Solr, but the book is
  intended to go much deeper into detail, especially with loads of examples
  and a lot more narrative guide. For example, the book has a complete list of
  the analyzer filters, each with a clean one-liner description. Ditto for
  every parameter (although I would note that the LucidWorks Solr Reference
  does a decent job of that as well.) Maybe, eventually, everything in the
  book COULD (and will) be integrated into the standard Solr doc, but until
  then, a single, integrated reference really is sorely needed. And, the book
  has a lot of narrative guide and walking through examples as well. Over
  time, I’m sure both will evolve. And just to be clear, the book is not a
  simple repurposing of the Solr wiki content – EVERY

Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-29 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
Perhaps, you will enjoy mine then:
http://www.packtpub.com/apache-solr-for-indexing-data/book .

I will send a formal announcement to the list a little later, but
basically this is a book for advanced beginners and early
intermediates and takes them from a basic index to multilingual
indexing with bells and whistles. Covers a small part of Solr (Solr is
big!), but shows how different parts work together. It's structured as
a cookbook but the narrative is a journey.

Regards,
   Alex.

Personal blog: http://blog.outerthoughts.com/
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrerafalovitch
- Time is the quality of nature that keeps events from happening all
at once. Lately, it doesn't seem to be working.  (Anonymous  - via GTD
book)


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Yago Riveiro yago.rive...@gmail.com wrote:
 IMHO I prefer narrative, as Erick says, explain all use-cases it's 
 impossible, cover the base cases is a good start.  Either way I miss a book 
 about solr different to a cookbook or a guide.

 Regards.

 --
 Yago Riveiro
 Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig)


 On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Erick Erickson wrote:

 FWIW, picking up on Alexandre's point. One of my continual
 frustrations with virtually _all_
 technical books is they become endless pages of details without ever
 mentioning why
 the hell I should care. Unfortunately, explaining use-cases for
 everything would only make
 the book about 10,000 pages long. Siiigh.

 I guess you can take this as a vote for narrative

 Erick

 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com 
 (mailto:j...@basetechnology.com) wrote:
  We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first
  raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2 weeks.
  As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. I'll
  keep your email on file and keep you posted.
 
  -- Jack Krupansky
 
  -Original Message- From: Swati Swoboda
  Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM
  To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org (mailto:solr-user@lucene.apache.org)
  Subject: RE: Note on The Book
 
 
  I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and your
  draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get it).
 
  Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc. for
  the book for those who would like to receive updates on the status of the
  book?
 
  Thanks
 
  Swati Swoboda
  Software Developer - Igloo Software
  +1.519.489.4120 sswob...@igloosoftware.com 
  (mailto:sswob...@igloosoftware.com)
 
  Bring back Cake Fridays – watch a video you’ll actually like
  http://vimeo.com/64886237
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:j...@basetechnology.com]
  Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:15 PM
  To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org (mailto:solr-user@lucene.apache.org)
  Subject: Note on The Book
 
  To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and 
  two
  others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad 
  news:
  The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going
  to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a 
  somewhat
  reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope 
  of
  the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than
  800 pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide”
  just wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr
  is just too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene
  as well.
 
  I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an
  e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of
  guide as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual
  print volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue
  is to offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book,
  with the promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised
  content and new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual
  e-book volumes would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel
  free to let me know what seems reasonable or excessive.
 
  For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral
  bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer both –
  which should be considered “premium”?
 
  I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get the
  “raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.
 
  For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have
  been in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next
  month or two or three.
 
  Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent
  contribution of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still
  great contributions

Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-29 Thread Jack Krupansky
Erick, your point is well taken. Although my primary interest/skill is to 
produce a solid foundation reference (including tons of examples), the real 
goal is to then build on top of that foundation.


While I focus on the hard-core material - which really does include some 
narrative and lots of examples in addition to tons of mere reference, my 
co-author, Ryan Tabora, will focus almost exclusively on... narrative and 
diagrams.


And when I say reference, I also mean lots of examples. Even as the 
hard-core reference stabilizes, the examples will continue to grow (like 
weeds!).


Once we get the current, existing, under-review, chapters packaged into the 
new book and available for purchase and download (maybe Lulu, not decided) - 
available, in a couple of weeks, it will be updated approximately every 
other week, both with additional reference material, and additional 
narrative and diagrams.


One of our priorities (after we get through Stage 0 of the next few weeks) 
is to in fact start giving each of the long Deep Dive Chapters enough 
narrative lead to basically say exactly that - why you should care.


A longer-term priority is to improve the balance of narrative and hard-core 
reference. Yeah, that will be a lot of pages. It already is. We were at 907 
pages and I was about to drop in another 166 pages on update handlers when 
O'Reilly threw up their hands and pulled the plug. I was estimating 1200 
pages at that stage. And I'll probably have another 60-80 pages on update 
request processors within a week or so. With more to come. That did include 
a lot of hard-core material and example code for Lucene, which won't be in 
the new Solr-only book. By focusing on an e-book the raw page count alone 
becomes moot. We haven't given up on print - the intent is eventually to 
have multiple volumes (4-8 or so, maybe more), both as cheaper e-books ($3 
to $5 each) and slimmer print volumes for people who don't need everything 
in print.


In fact, we will likely offer the revamped initial chapters of the book as a 
standalone introduction to Solr - narrative introduction (why should you 
care about Solr), basic concepts of Lucene and Solr (and why you should 
care!), brief tutorial walkthough of the major feature areas of Solr, and a 
case study. The intent would be both e-book and a slim print volume (75 
pages?).


Another priority (beyond Stage 0) is to develop a detailed roadmap diagram 
of Solr and how applications can use Solr, and then use that to show how 
each of the Deep Dive sections (heavy reference, but gradually adding more 
narrative over time.)


We will probably be very open to requests - what people really wish a book 
would actually do for them. The only request we won't be open to is to do it 
all in only 300 pages.


-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- 
From: Erick Erickson

Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:19 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

FWIW, picking up on Alexandre's point. One of my continual
frustrations with virtually _all_
technical books is they become endless pages of details without ever
mentioning why
the hell I should care. Unfortunately, explaining use-cases for
everything would only make
the book about 10,000 pages long. Siiigh.

I guess you can take this as a vote for narrative

Erick

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com 
wrote:

We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first
raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2 
weeks.

As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. I'll
keep your email on file and keep you posted.

-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- From: Swati Swoboda
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Note on The Book


I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and your
draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get 
it).


Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc. 
for

the book for those who would like to receive updates on the status of the
book?

Thanks

Swati Swoboda
Software Developer - Igloo Software
+1.519.489.4120  sswob...@igloosoftware.com

Bring back Cake Fridays – watch a video you’ll actually like
http://vimeo.com/64886237


-Original Message-
From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:j...@basetechnology.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:15 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Note on The Book

To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and 
two
others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad 
news:
The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m 
going
to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a 
somewhat
reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope 
of

the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than
800 pages

RE: Note on The Book

2013-05-29 Thread Markus Jelsma
Jack,

I'd prefer tons of information instead of a meager 300 page book that leaves a 
lot of questions. I'm looking forward to a paperback or hardcover book and 
price doesn't really matter, it is going to be worth it anyway.

Thanks,
Markus

 
 
-Original message-
 From:Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com
 Sent: Wed 29-May-2013 15:10
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Note on The Book
 
 Erick, your point is well taken. Although my primary interest/skill is to 
 produce a solid foundation reference (including tons of examples), the real 
 goal is to then build on top of that foundation.
 
 While I focus on the hard-core material - which really does include some 
 narrative and lots of examples in addition to tons of mere reference, my 
 co-author, Ryan Tabora, will focus almost exclusively on... narrative and 
 diagrams.
 
 And when I say reference, I also mean lots of examples. Even as the 
 hard-core reference stabilizes, the examples will continue to grow (like 
 weeds!).
 
 Once we get the current, existing, under-review, chapters packaged into the 
 new book and available for purchase and download (maybe Lulu, not decided) - 
 available, in a couple of weeks, it will be updated approximately every 
 other week, both with additional reference material, and additional 
 narrative and diagrams.
 
 One of our priorities (after we get through Stage 0 of the next few weeks) 
 is to in fact start giving each of the long Deep Dive Chapters enough 
 narrative lead to basically say exactly that - why you should care.
 
 A longer-term priority is to improve the balance of narrative and hard-core 
 reference. Yeah, that will be a lot of pages. It already is. We were at 907 
 pages and I was about to drop in another 166 pages on update handlers when 
 O'Reilly threw up their hands and pulled the plug. I was estimating 1200 
 pages at that stage. And I'll probably have another 60-80 pages on update 
 request processors within a week or so. With more to come. That did include 
 a lot of hard-core material and example code for Lucene, which won't be in 
 the new Solr-only book. By focusing on an e-book the raw page count alone 
 becomes moot. We haven't given up on print - the intent is eventually to 
 have multiple volumes (4-8 or so, maybe more), both as cheaper e-books ($3 
 to $5 each) and slimmer print volumes for people who don't need everything 
 in print.
 
 In fact, we will likely offer the revamped initial chapters of the book as a 
 standalone introduction to Solr - narrative introduction (why should you 
 care about Solr), basic concepts of Lucene and Solr (and why you should 
 care!), brief tutorial walkthough of the major feature areas of Solr, and a 
 case study. The intent would be both e-book and a slim print volume (75 
 pages?).
 
 Another priority (beyond Stage 0) is to develop a detailed roadmap diagram 
 of Solr and how applications can use Solr, and then use that to show how 
 each of the Deep Dive sections (heavy reference, but gradually adding more 
 narrative over time.)
 
 We will probably be very open to requests - what people really wish a book 
 would actually do for them. The only request we won't be open to is to do it 
 all in only 300 pages.
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Erick Erickson
 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:19 AM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Note on The Book
 
 FWIW, picking up on Alexandre's point. One of my continual
 frustrations with virtually _all_
 technical books is they become endless pages of details without ever
 mentioning why
 the hell I should care. Unfortunately, explaining use-cases for
 everything would only make
 the book about 10,000 pages long. Siiigh.
 
 I guess you can take this as a vote for narrative
 
 Erick
 
 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com 
 wrote:
  We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first
  raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2 
  weeks.
  As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. I'll
  keep your email on file and keep you posted.
 
  -- Jack Krupansky
 
  -Original Message- From: Swati Swoboda
  Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM
  To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
  Subject: RE: Note on The Book
 
 
  I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and your
  draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get 
  it).
 
  Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc. 
  for
  the book for those who would like to receive updates on the status of the
  book?
 
  Thanks
 
  Swati Swoboda
  Software Developer - Igloo Software
  +1.519.489.4120  sswob...@igloosoftware.com
 
  Bring back Cake Fridays – watch a video you’ll actually like
  http://vimeo.com/64886237
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:j...@basetechnology.com]
  Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:15 PM

Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-29 Thread Jack Krupansky

Markus,

Okay, more pages it is!

-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- 
From: Markus Jelsma

Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:35 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Note on The Book

Jack,

I'd prefer tons of information instead of a meager 300 page book that leaves 
a lot of questions. I'm looking forward to a paperback or hardcover book and 
price doesn't really matter, it is going to be worth it anyway.


Thanks,
Markus



-Original message-

From:Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com
Sent: Wed 29-May-2013 15:10
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

Erick, your point is well taken. Although my primary interest/skill is to
produce a solid foundation reference (including tons of examples), the 
real

goal is to then build on top of that foundation.

While I focus on the hard-core material - which really does include some
narrative and lots of examples in addition to tons of mere reference, my
co-author, Ryan Tabora, will focus almost exclusively on... narrative and
diagrams.

And when I say reference, I also mean lots of examples. Even as the
hard-core reference stabilizes, the examples will continue to grow (like
weeds!).

Once we get the current, existing, under-review, chapters packaged into 
the
new book and available for purchase and download (maybe Lulu, not 
decided) -

available, in a couple of weeks, it will be updated approximately every
other week, both with additional reference material, and additional
narrative and diagrams.

One of our priorities (after we get through Stage 0 of the next few weeks)
is to in fact start giving each of the long Deep Dive Chapters enough
narrative lead to basically say exactly that - why you should care.

A longer-term priority is to improve the balance of narrative and 
hard-core
reference. Yeah, that will be a lot of pages. It already is. We were at 
907

pages and I was about to drop in another 166 pages on update handlers when
O'Reilly threw up their hands and pulled the plug. I was estimating 1200
pages at that stage. And I'll probably have another 60-80 pages on update
request processors within a week or so. With more to come. That did 
include

a lot of hard-core material and example code for Lucene, which won't be in
the new Solr-only book. By focusing on an e-book the raw page count alone
becomes moot. We haven't given up on print - the intent is eventually to
have multiple volumes (4-8 or so, maybe more), both as cheaper e-books ($3
to $5 each) and slimmer print volumes for people who don't need everything
in print.

In fact, we will likely offer the revamped initial chapters of the book as 
a

standalone introduction to Solr - narrative introduction (why should you
care about Solr), basic concepts of Lucene and Solr (and why you should
care!), brief tutorial walkthough of the major feature areas of Solr, and 
a

case study. The intent would be both e-book and a slim print volume (75
pages?).

Another priority (beyond Stage 0) is to develop a detailed roadmap diagram
of Solr and how applications can use Solr, and then use that to show how
each of the Deep Dive sections (heavy reference, but gradually adding more
narrative over time.)

We will probably be very open to requests - what people really wish a book
would actually do for them. The only request we won't be open to is to do 
it

all in only 300 pages.

-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- 
From: Erick Erickson

Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:19 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

FWIW, picking up on Alexandre's point. One of my continual
frustrations with virtually _all_
technical books is they become endless pages of details without ever
mentioning why
the hell I should care. Unfortunately, explaining use-cases for
everything would only make
the book about 10,000 pages long. Siiigh.

I guess you can take this as a vote for narrative

Erick

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com
wrote:
 We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first
 raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2
 weeks.
 As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. I'll
 keep your email on file and keep you posted.

 -- Jack Krupansky

 -Original Message- From: Swati Swoboda
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: RE: Note on The Book


 I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and 
 your

 draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get
 it).

 Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc.
 for
 the book for those who would like to receive updates on the status of 
 the

 book?

 Thanks

 Swati Swoboda
 Software Developer - Igloo Software
 +1.519.489.4120  sswob...@igloosoftware.com

 Bring back Cake Fridays – watch a video you’ll actually like
 http://vimeo.com/64886237


 -Original Message-
 From: Jack

Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-28 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
Jack,

It is worth considering something like https://leanpub.com/ . That way
people can pre-pay for the result and enjoy (however 'draft'-y)
results earlier.

In terms of reference vs narrative, my strong desire would have been
for the narrative part. The problem always seems to be around
understanding how the pieces/flow fit together and - only then - what
specific parameters have what syntax.

For printed books, I'd probably go for a ring binder for basic version
and maybe combined hard-cover for premium one. The premium one would
be the one you get office to buy or as a present. :-)

Regards,
   Alex.

Personal blog: http://blog.outerthoughts.com/
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrerafalovitch
- Time is the quality of nature that keeps events from happening all
at once. Lately, it doesn't seem to be working.  (Anonymous  - via GTD
book)


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com wrote:
 To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two 
 others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news: 
 The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going 
 to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a somewhat 
 reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope of 
 the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than 800 
 pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide” just 
 wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr is 
 just too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene as 
 well.

 I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an 
 e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of 
 guide as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual 
 print volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue is 
 to offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book, with 
 the promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised content 
 and new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual e-book 
 volumes would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel free to let 
 me know what seems reasonable or excessive.

 For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral 
 bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer both – 
 which should be considered “premium”?

 I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get the 
 “raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.

 For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have 
 been in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next 
 month or two or three.

 Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent 
 contribution of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still 
 great contributions to general knowledge about Solr, but the book is intended 
 to go much deeper into detail, especially with loads of examples and a lot 
 more narrative guide. For example, the book has a complete list of the 
 analyzer filters, each with a clean one-liner description. Ditto for every 
 parameter (although I would note that the LucidWorks Solr Reference does a 
 decent job of that as well.) Maybe, eventually, everything in the book COULD 
 (and will) be integrated into the standard Solr doc, but until then, a 
 single, integrated reference really is sorely needed. And, the book has a lot 
 of narrative guide and walking through examples as well. Over time, I’m sure 
 both will evolve. And just to be clear, the book is not a simple repurposing 
 of the Solr wiki content – EVERY description of everything has been written 
 fresh, from scratch. So, for example, analyzer filters get both short 
 one-liner summary descriptions as well as more detailed descriptions, plus 
 formal attribute specifications and numerous examples, including sample input 
 and outputs (the LucidWorks Solr Reference does a better job with examples as 
 well.)

 The book has been written in parallel with branch_4x and that will continue.

 -- Jack Krupansky


RE: Note on The Book

2013-05-28 Thread Swati Swoboda
I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and your 
draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get it). 

Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc. for the 
book for those who would like to receive updates on the status of the book?

Thanks 

Swati Swoboda 
Software Developer - Igloo Software
+1.519.489.4120  sswob...@igloosoftware.com

Bring back Cake Fridays – watch a video you’ll actually like
http://vimeo.com/64886237


-Original Message-
From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:j...@basetechnology.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:15 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Note on The Book

To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two 
others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news: 
The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going to 
proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a somewhat 
reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope of 
the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than 800 
pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide” just 
wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr is just 
too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene as well.

I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an 
e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of guide 
as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual print 
volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue is to 
offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book, with the 
promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised content and 
new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual e-book volumes 
would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel free to let me know 
what seems reasonable or excessive.

For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral 
bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer both – 
which should be considered “premium”?

I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get the 
“raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.

For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have been 
in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next month or 
two or three.

Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent contribution 
of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still great contributions 
to general knowledge about Solr, but the book is intended to go much deeper 
into detail, especially with loads of examples and a lot more narrative guide. 
For example, the book has a complete list of the analyzer filters, each with a 
clean one-liner description. Ditto for every parameter (although I would note 
that the LucidWorks Solr Reference does a decent job of that as well.) Maybe, 
eventually, everything in the book COULD (and will) be integrated into the 
standard Solr doc, but until then, a single, integrated reference really is 
sorely needed. And, the book has a lot of narrative guide and walking through 
examples as well. Over time, I’m sure both will evolve. And just to be clear, 
the book is not a simple repurposing of the Solr wiki content – EVERY 
description of everything has been written fresh, from scratch. So, for 
example, analyzer filters get both short one-liner summary descriptions as well 
as more detailed descriptions, plus formal attribute specifications and 
numerous examples, including sample input and outputs (the LucidWorks Solr 
Reference does a better job with examples as well.)

The book has been written in parallel with branch_4x and that will continue.

-- Jack Krupansky


Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-28 Thread Jack Krupansky
We'll have a blog for the book. We hope to have a first 
raw/rough/partial/draft published as an e-book in maybe 10 days to 2 weeks. 
As soon as we get that process under control, we'll start the blog. I'll 
keep your email on file and keep you posted.


-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- 
From: Swati Swoboda

Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Note on The Book

I'd definitely prefer the spiral bound as well. E-books are great and your 
draft version seems very reasonably priced (aka I would definitely get it).


Really looking forward to this. Is there a separate mailing list / etc. for 
the book for those who would like to receive updates on the status of the 
book?


Thanks

Swati Swoboda
Software Developer - Igloo Software
+1.519.489.4120  sswob...@igloosoftware.com

Bring back Cake Fridays – watch a video you’ll actually like
http://vimeo.com/64886237


-Original Message-
From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:j...@basetechnology.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:15 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Note on The Book

To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two 
others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news: 
The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going 
to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a somewhat 
reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope of 
the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than 
800 pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide” 
just wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr 
is just too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene 
as well.


I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an 
e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of 
guide as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual 
print volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue 
is to offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book, 
with the promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised 
content and new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual 
e-book volumes would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel 
free to let me know what seems reasonable or excessive.


For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral 
bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer both – 
which should be considered “premium”?


I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get the 
“raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.


For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have 
been in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next 
month or two or three.


Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent 
contribution of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still 
great contributions to general knowledge about Solr, but the book is 
intended to go much deeper into detail, especially with loads of examples 
and a lot more narrative guide. For example, the book has a complete list of 
the analyzer filters, each with a clean one-liner description. Ditto for 
every parameter (although I would note that the LucidWorks Solr Reference 
does a decent job of that as well.) Maybe, eventually, everything in the 
book COULD (and will) be integrated into the standard Solr doc, but until 
then, a single, integrated reference really is sorely needed. And, the book 
has a lot of narrative guide and walking through examples as well. Over 
time, I’m sure both will evolve. And just to be clear, the book is not a 
simple repurposing of the Solr wiki content – EVERY description of 
everything has been written fresh, from scratch. So, for example, analyzer 
filters get both short one-liner summary descriptions as well as more 
detailed descriptions, plus formal attribute specifications and numerous 
examples, including sample input and outputs (the LucidWorks Solr Reference 
does a better job with examples as well.)


The book has been written in parallel with branch_4x and that will continue.

-- Jack Krupansky 



Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-27 Thread Koji Sekiguchi

Hi Jack,

I'd like to ask as a person who contributed a case study article about
Automatically acquiring synonym knowledge from Wikipedia to the book.

(13/05/24 8:14), Jack Krupansky wrote:

To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two 
others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news: 
The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going to 
proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a somewhat 
reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope of 
the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than 800 
pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide” just 
wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr is just 
too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene as well.


Will the reduced Solr-only reference guide include my article?
If not (for now I think it is not because my article is for Lucene case study,
not Solr), I'd like to put it out on my blog or somewhere.

BTW, those who want to know how to acquire synonym knowledge from Wikipedia,
the summary is available at slideshare:

http://www.slideshare.net/KojiSekiguchi/wikipediasolr

koji
--
http://soleami.com/blog/lucene-4-is-super-convenient-for-developing-nlp-tools.html


Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-27 Thread Jack Krupansky
If you would like to Solr-ize your contribution, that would be great. The 
focus of the book will be hard-core Solr.


-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- 
From: Koji Sekiguchi

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 8:07 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

Hi Jack,

I'd like to ask as a person who contributed a case study article about
Automatically acquiring synonym knowledge from Wikipedia to the book.

(13/05/24 8:14), Jack Krupansky wrote:
To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and 
two others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad 
news: The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m 
going to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a 
somewhat reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). 
The scope of the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book 
larger than 800 pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and 
lighter on “guide” just wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” 
model. In truth, Solr is just too complex for a simple guide that covers 
it all, let alone Lucene as well.


Will the reduced Solr-only reference guide include my article?
If not (for now I think it is not because my article is for Lucene case 
study,

not Solr), I'd like to put it out on my blog or somewhere.

BTW, those who want to know how to acquire synonym knowledge from Wikipedia,
the summary is available at slideshare:

http://www.slideshare.net/KojiSekiguchi/wikipediasolr

koji
--
http://soleami.com/blog/lucene-4-is-super-convenient-for-developing-nlp-tools.html 



Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-27 Thread Koji Sekiguchi

Now my contribution can be read on soleami blog in English:

Automatically Acquiring Synonym Knowledge from Wikipedia
http://soleami.com/blog/automatically-acquiring-synonym-knowledge-from-wikipedia.html

koji

(13/05/27 21:16), Jack Krupansky wrote:

If you would like to Solr-ize your contribution, that would be great. The focus 
of the book will be
hard-core Solr.

-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- From: Koji Sekiguchi
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 8:07 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

Hi Jack,

I'd like to ask as a person who contributed a case study article about
Automatically acquiring synonym knowledge from Wikipedia to the book.

(13/05/24 8:14), Jack Krupansky wrote:

To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two 
others are writing on
Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news: The book contract with 
O’Reilly has been
canceled. The good news: I’m going to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on 
Lulu or even
Amazon) a somewhat reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of 
Lucene). The scope of
the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than 800 
pages (or even 600)
that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide” just wasn’t fitting in with 
their traditional
“guide” model. In truth, Solr is just too complex for a simple guide that 
covers it all, let alone
Lucene as well.


Will the reduced Solr-only reference guide include my article?
If not (for now I think it is not because my article is for Lucene case study,
not Solr), I'd like to put it out on my blog or somewhere.

BTW, those who want to know how to acquire synonym knowledge from Wikipedia,
the summary is available at slideshare:

http://www.slideshare.net/KojiSekiguchi/wikipediasolr

koji



--
http://soleami.com/blog/lucene-4-is-super-convenient-for-developing-nlp-tools.html


Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-26 Thread Erick Erickson
Jack:

Kudos for carrying on! Having a contract canceled after putting a lot
of work into it must be a bummer...

Personally I'm not buying many paper books any more, so the e-book
version is preferable for me, so take this with a grain of salt.. but
make the paper version spiral bound, _please_. I wish every reference
book or cookbook or whatever, really anything I have to look at when
my fingers are busy doing something else was spiral bound

Best
Erick

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com wrote:
 To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two 
 others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news: 
 The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going 
 to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a somewhat 
 reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope of 
 the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than 800 
 pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide” just 
 wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr is 
 just too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene as 
 well.

 I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an 
 e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of 
 guide as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual 
 print volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue is 
 to offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book, with 
 the promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised content 
 and new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual e-book 
 volumes would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel free to let 
 me know what seems reasonable or excessive.

 For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral 
 bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer both – 
 which should be considered “premium”?

 I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get the 
 “raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.

 For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have 
 been in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next 
 month or two or three.

 Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent 
 contribution of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still 
 great contributions to general knowledge about Solr, but the book is intended 
 to go much deeper into detail, especially with loads of examples and a lot 
 more narrative guide. For example, the book has a complete list of the 
 analyzer filters, each with a clean one-liner description. Ditto for every 
 parameter (although I would note that the LucidWorks Solr Reference does a 
 decent job of that as well.) Maybe, eventually, everything in the book COULD 
 (and will) be integrated into the standard Solr doc, but until then, a 
 single, integrated reference really is sorely needed. And, the book has a lot 
 of narrative guide and walking through examples as well. Over time, I’m sure 
 both will evolve. And just to be clear, the book is not a simple repurposing 
 of the Solr wiki content – EVERY description of everything has been written 
 fresh, from scratch. So, for example, analyzer filters get both short 
 one-liner summary descriptions as well as more detailed descriptions, plus 
 formal attribute specifications and numerous examples, including sample input 
 and outputs (the LucidWorks Solr Reference does a better job with examples as 
 well.)

 The book has been written in parallel with branch_4x and that will continue.

 -- Jack Krupansky


Re: Note on The Book

2013-05-26 Thread Jack Krupansky
Thanks, Erick. I could do the experiment of publishing both spiral and 
perfect found and see which wins. Spiral does have the one downside of not 
standing out on a shelf. But, for now, I'll focus on getting the (rough 
draft) e-book available ASAP.


-- Jack Krupansky

-Original Message- 
From: Erick Erickson

Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:08 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Note on The Book

Jack:

Kudos for carrying on! Having a contract canceled after putting a lot
of work into it must be a bummer...

Personally I'm not buying many paper books any more, so the e-book
version is preferable for me, so take this with a grain of salt.. but
make the paper version spiral bound, _please_. I wish every reference
book or cookbook or whatever, really anything I have to look at when
my fingers are busy doing something else was spiral bound

Best
Erick

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Jack Krupansky j...@basetechnology.com 
wrote:
To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and 
two others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad 
news: The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m 
going to proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a 
somewhat reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). 
The scope of the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book 
larger than 800 pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and 
lighter on “guide” just wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” 
model. In truth, Solr is just too complex for a simple guide that covers 
it all, let alone Lucene as well.


I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an 
e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of 
guide as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual 
print volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue 
is to offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book, 
with the promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised 
content and new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual 
e-book volumes would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel 
free to let me know what seems reasonable or excessive.


For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral 
bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer 
both – which should be considered “premium”?


I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get 
the “raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.


For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have 
been in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next 
month or two or three.


Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent 
contribution of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still 
great contributions to general knowledge about Solr, but the book is 
intended to go much deeper into detail, especially with loads of examples 
and a lot more narrative guide. For example, the book has a complete list 
of the analyzer filters, each with a clean one-liner description. Ditto 
for every parameter (although I would note that the LucidWorks Solr 
Reference does a decent job of that as well.) Maybe, eventually, 
everything in the book COULD (and will) be integrated into the standard 
Solr doc, but until then, a single, integrated reference really is sorely 
needed. And, the book has a lot of narrative guide and walking through 
examples as well. Over time, I’m sure both will evolve. And just to be 
clear, the book is not a simple repurposing of the Solr wiki content – 
EVERY description of everything has been written fresh, from scratch. So, 
for example, analyzer filters get both short one-liner summary 
descriptions as well as more detailed descriptions, plus formal attribute 
specifications and numerous examples, including sample input and outputs 
(the LucidWorks Solr Reference does a better job with examples as well.)


The book has been written in parallel with branch_4x and that will 
continue.


-- Jack Krupansky 




Note on The Book

2013-05-23 Thread Jack Krupansky
To those of you who may have heard about the Lucene/Solr book that I and two 
others are writing on Lucene and Solr, some bad and good news. The bad news: 
The book contract with O’Reilly has been canceled. The good news: I’m going to 
proceed with self-publishing (possibly on Lulu or even Amazon) a somewhat 
reduced scope Solr-only Reference Guide (with hints of Lucene). The scope of 
the previous effort was too great, even for O’Reilly – a book larger than 800 
pages (or even 600) that was heavy on reference and lighter on “guide” just 
wasn’t fitting in with their traditional “guide” model. In truth, Solr is just 
too complex for a simple guide that covers it all, let alone Lucene as well.

I’ll announce more details in the coming weeks, but I expect to publish an 
e-book-only version of the book, focused on Solr reference (and plenty of guide 
as well), possibly on Lulu, plus eventually publish 4-8 individual print 
volumes for people who really want the paper. One model I may pursue is to 
offer the current, incomplete, raw, rough, draft as a $7.99 e-book, with the 
promise of updates every two weeks or a month as new and revised content and 
new releases of Solr become available. Maybe the individual e-book volumes 
would be $2 or $3. These are just preliminary ideas. Feel free to let me know 
what seems reasonable or excessive.

For paper: Do people really want perfect bound, or would you prefer spiral 
bound that lies flat and folds back easily? I suppose we could offer both – 
which should be considered “premium”?

I’ll announce more details next week. The immediate goal will be to get the 
“raw rough draft” available to everyone ASAP.

For those of you who have been early reviewers – your effort will not have been 
in vain. I have all your comments and will address them over the next month or 
two or three.

Just for some clarity, the existing Solr Wiki and even the recent contribution 
of the LucidWorks Solr Reference to Apache really are still great contributions 
to general knowledge about Solr, but the book is intended to go much deeper 
into detail, especially with loads of examples and a lot more narrative guide. 
For example, the book has a complete list of the analyzer filters, each with a 
clean one-liner description. Ditto for every parameter (although I would note 
that the LucidWorks Solr Reference does a decent job of that as well.) Maybe, 
eventually, everything in the book COULD (and will) be integrated into the 
standard Solr doc, but until then, a single, integrated reference really is 
sorely needed. And, the book has a lot of narrative guide and walking through 
examples as well. Over time, I’m sure both will evolve. And just to be clear, 
the book is not a simple repurposing of the Solr wiki content – EVERY 
description of everything has been written fresh, from scratch. So, for 
example, analyzer filters get both short one-liner summary descriptions as well 
as more detailed descriptions, plus formal attribute specifications and 
numerous examples, including sample input and outputs (the LucidWorks Solr 
Reference does a better job with examples as well.)

The book has been written in parallel with branch_4x and that will continue.

-- Jack Krupansky