Re: Multi Core - Max Core Count Recommendation

2008-12-10 Thread Ryan McKinley

it depends!

yes there is overhead to each core -- how much it matters will depend  
entirely on your setup and typical usage pattern.


sorry this is not a particularly useful answer.

I think the choice of how many cores will come down to your domain  
logic needs more then hardware.  If you are able to put things into a  
single index and get the performance you need, it will just be easier  
to deal with.


ryan



On Dec 10, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Ryan Peterson wrote:

I'm trying to see if anyone has any recommendations on the maximum  
number of cores that should be used within Solr. Is there  
significant overhead to each core? Should it be 10 or less, or is  
100 or 1,000 cores acceptable.


Thanks,

Ryan




Re: Multi Core - Max Core Count Recommendation

2008-12-10 Thread Ryan Peterson
We are considering a migration to SOLR from a home grown Lucene solution. 
Currently we have 27,000 seperate lucene indexes that are separated based on 
business logic. Collectively the indexes are about 1.5 Terrabytes in size. We 
have some very small indexes and some that are quite large (up to 15GB). My 
hesitation of grouping all this data across say 4 SOLR instances is that each 
individual idex will still be about 400GB in size. How bit is too big for a 
singel Lucene index? Each SOLR instance will be on a dual/dual core xeon box 
with 6 SAS 15k drives in Raid 5 config and 16GB of RAM.

If a 400GB instance is too much, I figured I could reduce the size of each 
individual index further by using multiple CORES, but again how many would 
depend on what size index is too big.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thank you for your time.

-Ryan





From: Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:26:07 PM
Subject: Re: Multi Core - Max Core Count Recommendation

it depends!

yes there is overhead to each core -- how much it matters will depend  
entirely on your setup and typical usage pattern.

sorry this is not a particularly useful answer.

I think the choice of how many cores will come down to your domain  
logic needs more then hardware.  If you are able to put things into a  
single index and get the performance you need, it will just be easier  
to deal with.

ryan



On Dec 10, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Ryan Peterson wrote:

 I'm trying to see if anyone has any recommendations on the maximum  
 number of cores that should be used within Solr. Is there  
 significant overhead to each core? Should it be 10 or less, or is  
 100 or 1,000 cores acceptable.

 Thanks,

 Ryan

RE: Multi Core - Max Core Count Recommendation

2008-12-10 Thread Lance Norskog
1) Our limit is: is how big a file do we want to copy around? 
We switched to multiple indexes because of the logistics of
replicating/backing up giant Lucene index files.

2) Searching takes a little memory, sorting takes a lot of memory, and
faceting eats like a black hole.

There is an unwritten wiki page of practical experiences.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:20 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Multi Core - Max Core Count Recommendation

We are considering a migration to SOLR from a home grown Lucene solution.
Currently we have 27,000 seperate lucene indexes that are separated based on
business logic. Collectively the indexes are about 1.5 Terrabytes in size.
We have some very small indexes and some that are quite large (up to 15GB).
My hesitation of grouping all this data across say 4 SOLR instances is that
each individual idex will still be about 400GB in size. How bit is too big
for a singel Lucene index? Each SOLR instance will be on a dual/dual core
xeon box with 6 SAS 15k drives in Raid 5 config and 16GB of RAM.

If a 400GB instance is too much, I figured I could reduce the size of each
individual index further by using multiple CORES, but again how many would
depend on what size index is too big.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thank you for your time.

-Ryan





From: Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:26:07 PM
Subject: Re: Multi Core - Max Core Count Recommendation

it depends!

yes there is overhead to each core -- how much it matters will depend
entirely on your setup and typical usage pattern.

sorry this is not a particularly useful answer.

I think the choice of how many cores will come down to your domain logic
needs more then hardware.  If you are able to put things into a single index
and get the performance you need, it will just be easier to deal with.

ryan



On Dec 10, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Ryan Peterson wrote:

 I'm trying to see if anyone has any recommendations on the maximum 
 number of cores that should be used within Solr. Is there significant 
 overhead to each core? Should it be 10 or less, or is 100 or 1,000 
 cores acceptable.

 Thanks,

 Ryan