Re: Solr Score threshold 'reasonably', independent of results returned
: Not really. The percentage given in other search packages is fairly : bogus. You have to do a global batch analysis of all of the index to : get a true scale for relevance. Exactly... https://wiki.apache.org/solr/FAQ#Why_Aren.27t_Scores_returned_as_a_percentage.3F_How_Do_I_normalize_Scores.3F https://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/ScoresAsPercentages *you* -- as the person in control of your solr instance, who kows everything about every document in the index, and has total control over the set of valid queries being executed against the index -- you *MAY* be able to compute a meaningful threshold of scores, based on the constraints you know/enforce. But Solr can't do this, because in general Solr doesn't know those constraints (or if those constraints even exist) for an arbitrary index. -Hoss
Re: Solr Score threshold 'reasonably', independent of results returned
Not really. The percentage given in other search packages is fairly bogus. You have to do a global batch analysis of all of the index to get a true scale for relevance. On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Ramzi Alqrainy ramzi.alqra...@gmail.com wrote: You are right Mr.Ravish, because this depends on (ranking and search fields) formula, but please allow me to tell you that Solr score can help us to define this document is relevant or not in some cases. -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Solr-Score-threshold-reasonably-independent-of-results-returned-tp4002312p4003248.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Lance Norskog goks...@gmail.com
Re: Solr Score threshold 'reasonably', independent of results returned
It will never return no result because its relative to score in previous result If score0.25*last_score then stop Since score0 and last score is 0 for initial hit it will not stop -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Solr-Score-threshold-reasonably-independent-of-results-returned-tp4002312p4003247.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Solr Score threshold 'reasonably', independent of results returned
You are right Mr.Ravish, because this depends on (ranking and search fields) formula, but please allow me to tell you that Solr score can help us to define this document is relevant or not in some cases. -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Solr-Score-threshold-reasonably-independent-of-results-returned-tp4002312p4003248.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Solr Score threshold 'reasonably', independent of results returned
Hi, I think that this totally depends on your requirements and thus applicable for a user scenario. Score does not have any absolute meaning, it is always relative to the query. If you want to watch some particular queries and want to show results with score above previously set threshold, you can use this. If I always have that x% threshold in place , there may be many queries which would not return anything and I certainly do not want that. -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Solr-Score-threshold-reasonably-independent-of-results-returned-tp4002312p4002673.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Solr Score threshold 'reasonably', independent of results returned
Commercial solutions often have %age that is meant to signify the quality of match. Solr has relative score and you cannot tell by just looking at this value if a result is relevant enough to be in first page or not. Score depends on what else is in the index so not easy to normalize in the way you suggest. Ravish On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Mou mouna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think that this totally depends on your requirements and thus applicable for a user scenario. Score does not have any absolute meaning, it is always relative to the query. If you want to watch some particular queries and want to show results with score above previously set threshold, you can use this. If I always have that x% threshold in place , there may be many queries which would not return anything and I certainly do not want that. -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Solr-Score-threshold-reasonably-independent-of-results-returned-tp4002312p4002673.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Solr Score threshold 'reasonably', independent of results returned
Usually, search results are sorted by their score (how well the document matched the query), but it is common to need to support the sorting of supplied data too. Boosting affects the scores of matching documents in order to affect ranking in score-sorted search results. Providing a boost value, whether at the document or field level, is optional. When the results are returned with scores, we want to be able to only keep results that are above some score (i.e. results of a certain quality only). Is it possible to do this when the returned subset could be anything? I ask because it seems like on some queries a score of say 0.008 is resulting in a decent match, whereas other queries a higher score results in a poor match. I have written pseudo code to achieve what I said. Note: I have attached my code as screenshot http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/file/n4002312/Screen_Shot_2012-08-21_at_5.30.38_AM.png https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3747 -- View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Solr-Score-threshold-reasonably-independent-of-results-returned-tp4002312.html Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
