Re: Solr Swap Function doesn't work when using Solr Cloud Beta
Hi Mark, If can support in future, I think it's great. It's a really useful feature. For example, user can use to refresh with totally new core. User can build index on one core. After build done, can swap old core and new core. Then get totally new core for search. Also can used in the backup. If one crashed, can easily swap with backup core and quickly serve the search request. Best Regards, Sam On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote: FYI swap is def not supported in SolrCloud right now - even though it may work, it's not been thought about and there are no tests. If you would like to see support, I'd add a JIRA issue along with any pertinent info from this thread about what the behavior needs to be changed to. - Mark On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:49 PM, sam fang sam.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for your help. Today I tried again and try to figure out the reason. 1. set up an external zookeeper server. 2. change /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/solr.xml persistent to true. and run below command to upload config to zk. (renamed multicore to solr, and need to put zkcli.sh related jar package.) /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig -confdir /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/core0/conf/ -confname core0 -z localhost:2181 /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig -confdir /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/core1/conf/ -confname core1 -z localhost:2181 3. Start jetty server cd /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example java -DzkHost=localhost:2181 -jar start.jar 4. publish message to core0 /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/exampledocs cp ../../exampledocs/post.jar ./ java -Durl=http://localhost:8983/solr/core0/update -jar post.jar ipod_video.xml 5. query to core0 and core1 is ok. 6. Click swap in the admin page, the query to core0 and core1 is changing. Previous I saw sometimes returns 0 result. sometimes return 1 result. Today seems core0 still return 1 result, core1 return 0 result. 7. Then click reload in the admin page, the query to core0 and core1. Sometimes return 1 result, and sometimes return nothing. Also can see the zk configuration also changed. 8. Restart jetty server. If do the query, it's same as what I saw in step 7. 9. Stop jetty server, then log into zkCli.sh, then run command set /clusterstate.json {}. then start jetty again. everything back to normal, that is what previous swap did in solr 3.6 or solr 4.0 w/o cloud. From my observation, after swap, seems it put shard information into actualShards, when user request to search, it will use all shard information to do the search. But user can't see zk update until click reload button in admin page. When restart web server, this shard information eventually went to zk, and the search go to all shards. I found there is a option distrib, and used url like http://host1:18000/solr/core0/select?distrib=falseq=*%3A*wt=xml;, then only get the data on the core0. Digged in the code (handleRequestBody method in SearchHandler class, seems it make sense) I tried to stop tomcat server, then use command set /clusterstate.json {} to clean all cluster state, then use command cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig to upload config to zk server, and start tomcat server. It rebuild the right shard information in zk. then search function back to normal like what we saw in 3.6 or 4.0 w/o cloud. Seems solr always add shard information into zk. I tested cloud swap on single machine, if each core have one shard in the zk, after swap, eventually zk has 2 slices(shards) for that core because now only do the add. so the search will go to both 2 shards. and tested cloud swap with 2 machine which each core have 1 shard and 2 slices. Below the configuration in the zk. After swap, eventually zk has 4 for that core. and search will mess up. core0:{shard1:{ host1:18000_solr_core0:{ shard:shard1, roles:null, leader:true, state:active, core:core0, collection:core0, node_name:host1:18000_solr, base_url:http://host1:18000/solr}, host2:18000_solr_core0:{ shard:shard1, roles:null, state:active, core:core0, collection:core0, node_name:host2:18000_solr, base_url:http://host2:18000/solr}}}, For previous 2 cases, if I stoped tomcat/jetty server, then manullay upload configuration to zk, then start tomcat server, zk and search become normal. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.orgwrote: : Below is my solr.xml configuration, and already set persistent to true. ... : Then publish 1 record to test1, and query. it's ok now. Ok, first off --
Re: Solr Swap Function doesn't work when using Solr Cloud Beta
FYI swap is def not supported in SolrCloud right now - even though it may work, it's not been thought about and there are no tests. If you would like to see support, I'd add a JIRA issue along with any pertinent info from this thread about what the behavior needs to be changed to. - Mark On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:49 PM, sam fang sam.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for your help. Today I tried again and try to figure out the reason. 1. set up an external zookeeper server. 2. change /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/solr.xml persistent to true. and run below command to upload config to zk. (renamed multicore to solr, and need to put zkcli.sh related jar package.) /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig -confdir /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/core0/conf/ -confname core0 -z localhost:2181 /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig -confdir /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/core1/conf/ -confname core1 -z localhost:2181 3. Start jetty server cd /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example java -DzkHost=localhost:2181 -jar start.jar 4. publish message to core0 /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/exampledocs cp ../../exampledocs/post.jar ./ java -Durl=http://localhost:8983/solr/core0/update -jar post.jar ipod_video.xml 5. query to core0 and core1 is ok. 6. Click swap in the admin page, the query to core0 and core1 is changing. Previous I saw sometimes returns 0 result. sometimes return 1 result. Today seems core0 still return 1 result, core1 return 0 result. 7. Then click reload in the admin page, the query to core0 and core1. Sometimes return 1 result, and sometimes return nothing. Also can see the zk configuration also changed. 8. Restart jetty server. If do the query, it's same as what I saw in step 7. 9. Stop jetty server, then log into zkCli.sh, then run command set /clusterstate.json {}. then start jetty again. everything back to normal, that is what previous swap did in solr 3.6 or solr 4.0 w/o cloud. From my observation, after swap, seems it put shard information into actualShards, when user request to search, it will use all shard information to do the search. But user can't see zk update until click reload button in admin page. When restart web server, this shard information eventually went to zk, and the search go to all shards. I found there is a option distrib, and used url like http://host1:18000/solr/core0/select?distrib=falseq=*%3A*wt=xml;, then only get the data on the core0. Digged in the code (handleRequestBody method in SearchHandler class, seems it make sense) I tried to stop tomcat server, then use command set /clusterstate.json {} to clean all cluster state, then use command cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig to upload config to zk server, and start tomcat server. It rebuild the right shard information in zk. then search function back to normal like what we saw in 3.6 or 4.0 w/o cloud. Seems solr always add shard information into zk. I tested cloud swap on single machine, if each core have one shard in the zk, after swap, eventually zk has 2 slices(shards) for that core because now only do the add. so the search will go to both 2 shards. and tested cloud swap with 2 machine which each core have 1 shard and 2 slices. Below the configuration in the zk. After swap, eventually zk has 4 for that core. and search will mess up. core0:{shard1:{ host1:18000_solr_core0:{ shard:shard1, roles:null, leader:true, state:active, core:core0, collection:core0, node_name:host1:18000_solr, base_url:http://host1:18000/solr}, host2:18000_solr_core0:{ shard:shard1, roles:null, state:active, core:core0, collection:core0, node_name:host2:18000_solr, base_url:http://host2:18000/solr}}}, For previous 2 cases, if I stoped tomcat/jetty server, then manullay upload configuration to zk, then start tomcat server, zk and search become normal. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.orgwrote: : Below is my solr.xml configuration, and already set persistent to true. ... : Then publish 1 record to test1, and query. it's ok now. Ok, first off -- please provide more details on how exactly you are running Solr. Your initial email said... In Solr 3.6, core swap function works good. After switch to use Solr 4.0 Beta, and found it doesn't work well. ...but based on your solr.xml file and your logs, it appears you are now trying to use some of the ZooKeeper/SolrCloud features that didn't even exist in Solr 3.6, so it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. i'm pretty sure that for a simple multicore setup, SWAP still works exactly as it did in Solr 3.6. Wether SWAP works with ZooKeeper/SolrCloud is
Re: Solr Swap Function doesn't work when using Solr Cloud Beta
: Below is my solr.xml configuration, and already set persistent to true. ... : Then publish 1 record to test1, and query. it's ok now. Ok, first off -- please provide more details on how exactly you are running Solr. Your initial email said... In Solr 3.6, core swap function works good. After switch to use Solr 4.0 Beta, and found it doesn't work well. ...but based on your solr.xml file and your logs, it appears you are now trying to use some of the ZooKeeper/SolrCloud features that didn't even exist in Solr 3.6, so it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. i'm pretty sure that for a simple multicore setup, SWAP still works exactly as it did in Solr 3.6. Wether SWAP works with ZooKeeper/SolrCloud is something i'm not really clear on -- mainly because i'm not sure what it should mean conceptually. Should the two SolrCores swap which collections they are apart of? what happens if the doc-shard assignment for the two collections means the same docs woulnd't wind up im those SolrCores? what if the SolrCores are two different shards of the same collection befor teh SWAP? FWIW: It wasn't clear from your messsage *how* you had your SolrCloud system setup, but it appears from your pre-swap log messages that you are running a single node, so I tried to reproduce the behavior you were seeing by seting up a solr home dir like you described, and then running... java -Dsolr.solr.home=swap-test/ -DzkRun -Dbootstrap_conf=true -DnumShards=1 -jar start.jar ...because that was my best guess as to what you were running. But even then i couldn't get the behavior you described after the swap... : And found the shardurl is different with the log which search before swap. : It’s shard.url=host1:18000/solr/test1-ondeck/| host1:18000/solr/test1/. ...what i observed after the swap, is that it apperaed as if hte SWAP had no effect to client requests, because a client request to /solr/test1/select?q=*:* was distributed under the covers to /solr/test1-ondeck/... which is the new name for the core where the doc had been indexed... Sep 21, 2012 12:03:32 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1-ondeck] webapp=/solr path=/select params={distrib=falsewt=javabinrows=10version=2df=textfl=id,scoreshard.url=frisbee:8983/solr/test1-ondeck/NOW=1348254212677start=0q=*:*isShard=truefsv=true} hits=1 status=0 QTime=0 Sep 21, 2012 12:03:32 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1-ondeck] webapp=/solr path=/select params={df=textshard.url=frisbee:8983/solr/test1-ondeck/NOW=1348254212677q=*:*ids=SOLR1000distrib=falseisShard=truewt=javabinrows=10version=2} status=0 QTime=0 Sep 21, 2012 12:03:32 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1] webapp=/solr path=/select params={q=*:*} status=0 QTime=10 ...I'm guessing this behavior is because nothing in the SWAP call bothered to tell ZK that these two SolrCores swaped names, so when asking to query the test1 collection, ZK says ok, well the name of the core that's part of that collection is test1-ondeck and that's where the query was routed. I only saw behavior similar to what you described (of the shard.url refering to both SolrCores) after i restarted solr -- presumably because as the solrCores started up, they both notified ZK about their existence, and said what collection they (thought they) are a part of, but ZK also already thinks they are each a part of a differet collection as well (because nothing bothered to tell ZK otherwise). So the long and short of it seems to be... * CoreAdminHandler's SWAP is poorly defined if you are using SolrCloud (most likely: so is RENAME and ALIAS) - i've opened SOLR-3866. * This doesn't seem like a regression bug from Solr 3.6, because as far as i can tell SWAP still works as well as it did in 3.6. -Hoss
Re: Solr Swap Function doesn't work when using Solr Cloud Beta
Hi Chris, Thanks for your help. Today I tried again and try to figure out the reason. 1. set up an external zookeeper server. 2. change /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/solr.xml persistent to true. and run below command to upload config to zk. (renamed multicore to solr, and need to put zkcli.sh related jar package.) /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig -confdir /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/core0/conf/ -confname core0 -z localhost:2181 /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig -confdir /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/core1/conf/ -confname core1 -z localhost:2181 3. Start jetty server cd /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example java -DzkHost=localhost:2181 -jar start.jar 4. publish message to core0 /opt/solr/apache-solr-4.0.0-BETA/example/solr/exampledocs cp ../../exampledocs/post.jar ./ java -Durl=http://localhost:8983/solr/core0/update -jar post.jar ipod_video.xml 5. query to core0 and core1 is ok. 6. Click swap in the admin page, the query to core0 and core1 is changing. Previous I saw sometimes returns 0 result. sometimes return 1 result. Today seems core0 still return 1 result, core1 return 0 result. 7. Then click reload in the admin page, the query to core0 and core1. Sometimes return 1 result, and sometimes return nothing. Also can see the zk configuration also changed. 8. Restart jetty server. If do the query, it's same as what I saw in step 7. 9. Stop jetty server, then log into zkCli.sh, then run command set /clusterstate.json {}. then start jetty again. everything back to normal, that is what previous swap did in solr 3.6 or solr 4.0 w/o cloud. From my observation, after swap, seems it put shard information into actualShards, when user request to search, it will use all shard information to do the search. But user can't see zk update until click reload button in admin page. When restart web server, this shard information eventually went to zk, and the search go to all shards. I found there is a option distrib, and used url like http://host1:18000/solr/core0/select?distrib=falseq=*%3A*wt=xml;, then only get the data on the core0. Digged in the code (handleRequestBody method in SearchHandler class, seems it make sense) I tried to stop tomcat server, then use command set /clusterstate.json {} to clean all cluster state, then use command cloud-scripts/zkcli.sh -cmd upconfig to upload config to zk server, and start tomcat server. It rebuild the right shard information in zk. then search function back to normal like what we saw in 3.6 or 4.0 w/o cloud. Seems solr always add shard information into zk. I tested cloud swap on single machine, if each core have one shard in the zk, after swap, eventually zk has 2 slices(shards) for that core because now only do the add. so the search will go to both 2 shards. and tested cloud swap with 2 machine which each core have 1 shard and 2 slices. Below the configuration in the zk. After swap, eventually zk has 4 for that core. and search will mess up. core0:{shard1:{ host1:18000_solr_core0:{ shard:shard1, roles:null, leader:true, state:active, core:core0, collection:core0, node_name:host1:18000_solr, base_url:http://host1:18000/solr}, host2:18000_solr_core0:{ shard:shard1, roles:null, state:active, core:core0, collection:core0, node_name:host2:18000_solr, base_url:http://host2:18000/solr}}}, For previous 2 cases, if I stoped tomcat/jetty server, then manullay upload configuration to zk, then start tomcat server, zk and search become normal. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.orgwrote: : Below is my solr.xml configuration, and already set persistent to true. ... : Then publish 1 record to test1, and query. it's ok now. Ok, first off -- please provide more details on how exactly you are running Solr. Your initial email said... In Solr 3.6, core swap function works good. After switch to use Solr 4.0 Beta, and found it doesn't work well. ...but based on your solr.xml file and your logs, it appears you are now trying to use some of the ZooKeeper/SolrCloud features that didn't even exist in Solr 3.6, so it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. i'm pretty sure that for a simple multicore setup, SWAP still works exactly as it did in Solr 3.6. Wether SWAP works with ZooKeeper/SolrCloud is something i'm not really clear on -- mainly because i'm not sure what it should mean conceptually. Should the two SolrCores swap which collections they are apart of? what happens if the doc-shard assignment for the two collections means the same docs woulnd't wind up im those SolrCores? what if the SolrCores are two different shards of the same collection befor teh SWAP? FWIW: It wasn't clear from your messsage *how* you had your SolrCloud
Re: Solr Swap Function doesn't work when using Solr Cloud Beta
: In Solr 3.6, core swap function works good. After switch to use Solr 4.0 : Beta, and found it doesn't work well. can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by doesn't work well ? .. what does your solr.xml file look like? what command did you run to do the swap? what results did you get from those commands? what exactly did you observe after teh swap and how did you observe it? : I tried to swap two cores, but it still return old core data when do the : search. After restart tomat which contain Solr, it will mess up when do the : search, seems it will use like oldcoreshard|newcoreshard to do the search. : Anyone hit this issue? how did you do the search ? is it possible you were just seeing your browser cache the results? Do you have persistent=true in your solr.xml file? w/o that changes made via the CoreAdmin commands won't be saved to disk. I just tested using both 4.0-BETA and the HEAD of the 4x branch and couldn't see any problems using SWAP (i tested using 'java -Dsolr.solr.home=multicore/ -jar start.jar' and indexing some trivial docs, and then tested again after modifying the solr.xml to use persistent=true) -Hoss
Re: Solr Swap Function doesn't work when using Solr Cloud Beta
Hi Hoss, Thanks for your quick reply. Below is my solr.xml configuration, and already set persistent to true. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ? solr persistent=true cores adminPath=/admin/cores zkClientTimeout=${zkClientTimeout:15000} hostPort=18000 core schema=schema.xml shard=shard1 instanceDir=test1-ondeck/ name=test1 config=solrconfig.xml collection=test1-ondeck/ core schema=schema.xml shard=shard1 instanceDir=test1/ name=test1-ondeck config=solrconfig.xml collection=test1/ /cores /solr For test1 and tets1-ondeck content, just copied from example/solr/collection1 Then publish 1 record to test1, and query. it's ok now. INFO: [test1] webapp=/solr path=/select params={distrib=falsewt=javabinrows=10version=2fl=id,scoredf=textNOW=1348195088691shard.url=host1:18000/solr/test1/start=0q=*:*isShard=truefsv=true} hits=1 status=0 QTime=1 Sep 20, 2012 10:38:08 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1] webapp=/solr path=/select params={ids=SOLR1000distrib=falsewt=javabinrows=10version=2df=textNOW=1348195088691shard.url= host1:18000/solr/test1/q=*:*isShard=true} status=0 QTime=1 Sep 20, 2012 10:38:08 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1] webapp=/solr path=/select params={q=*:*wt=python} status=0 QTime=20 Then use core admin console page to swap, and click reload for test1 and test1-ondeck. if keep refresh query page, sometimes give 1 record, sometime give 0 records. And found the shardurl is different with the log which search before swap. It’s shard.url=host1:18000/solr/test1-ondeck/| host1:18000/solr/test1/. Below return 0 S Sep 20, 2012 10:41:32 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1] webapp=/solr path=/select params={fl=id,scoredf=textNOW=1348195292608shard.url=host1:18000/solr/test1-ondeck/| host1:18000/solr/test1/start=0q=*:*distrib=falseisShard=truewt=javabinfsv=truerows=10version=2} hits=0 status=0 QTime=0 Sep 20, 2012 10:41:32 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1] webapp=/solr path=/select params={q=*:*wt=python} status=0 QTime=14 Below return 1 Sep 20, 2012 10:42:31 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1-ondeck] webapp=/solr path=/select params={fl=id,scoredf=textNOW=1348195351293shard.url= host1:18000/solr/test1-ondeck/| host1:18000/solr/test1/start=0q=*:*distrib=falseisShard=truewt=javabinfsv=truerows=10version=2} hits=1 status=0 QTime=1 Sep 20, 2012 10:42:31 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1-ondeck] webapp=/solr path=/select params={df=textNOW=1348195351293shard.url= host1:18000/solr/test1-ondeck/| host1:18000/solr/test1/q=*:*ids=SOLR1000distrib=falseisShard=truewt=javabinrows=10version=2} status=0 QTime=1 Sep 20, 2012 10:42:31 PM org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore execute INFO: [test1] webapp=/solr path=/select params={q=*:*wt=python} status=0 QTime=9 Thanks a lot, Sam On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.orgwrote: : In Solr 3.6, core swap function works good. After switch to use Solr 4.0 : Beta, and found it doesn't work well. can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by doesn't work well ? .. what does your solr.xml file look like? what command did you run to do the swap? what results did you get from those commands? what exactly did you observe after teh swap and how did you observe it? : I tried to swap two cores, but it still return old core data when do the : search. After restart tomat which contain Solr, it will mess up when do the : search, seems it will use like oldcoreshard|newcoreshard to do the search. : Anyone hit this issue? how did you do the search ? is it possible you were just seeing your browser cache the results? Do you have persistent=true in your solr.xml file? w/o that changes made via the CoreAdmin commands won't be saved to disk. I just tested using both 4.0-BETA and the HEAD of the 4x branch and couldn't see any problems using SWAP (i tested using 'java -Dsolr.solr.home=multicore/ -jar start.jar' and indexing some trivial docs, and then tested again after modifying the solr.xml to use persistent=true) -Hoss