Re: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-14 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi,

and thanks for your hints. I've done some additional research and found
that there doesn't really seem to be any possibility of an embedded solr
server in solrpy.

Jetty, then. It'd all be probably kinda easy if it weren't for the way
things are unbundled in debian. I've recently posted to the debian-java
ML, but received no replay -- maybe because it's so solr-specific (so,
sorry for cross-posting here). It's kinda long as I've tried to capture
the issues I've run into so far. I'd really appreciate any help -- maybe
there are some solr ninjas here that know how to work around the
problems I'm experiencing.

 [...]
 The tests are basically a python file and a corresponding schema.xml.
 Normally, it's suggested to just use solr's example directory (with
 integrated jetty) and replace its schema.xml with the one provided by
 solrpy, and then run it via java -jar start.jar
 
 
 
 On debian however, solr and jetty are unbundled (for good reason), and
i
 can't of course just replace solr's example schema.xml (which gets
 installed to /etc/solr/conf).
 
 I've started by looking for ways to run solr on jetty as non-root by
 basically running
 
 java -jar /usr/share/jetty/start.jar
 
 But that is highly non-trivial, as jetty's configuration files seem to
 point to solr's in a pretty hardcoded way.
 
 I was able to change jetty's logs and home location by
 
 java -jar -Djetty.home=/usr/share/jetty

-Djetty.logs=/home/me/solr/logs /usr/share/jetty/start.jar /etc/jetty/jetty.xml 
 
 I can run jetty as a non-root user by issuing that command from
 within /usr/share/jetty, but it fails to start solr, as I haven't yet
 found a way to make solr use another datadir than /var/lib/solr/data
--
 which is hardcoded in /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml.
 
 I think I might be able to change the latter by having the solr-common
 package change its /etc/solr/conf/solrconfig.xml to read
 
 dataDir${solr.data.dir}/dataDir
 
 instead of
 
 dataDir/var/lib/solr/data/dataDir
 
 and put a solrcore.properties into solr.home
 
 #solrcore.properties
 data.dir=/data/solrindex
 
 ( as seen over at

http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolrConfigXml#System_property_substitution )
 -- or just pass -Dsolr.data.dir=/data/dir from within some startup
 script. 
 
 Would such a modification of solr-common have any chance to be
accepted
 by the java team?
 
 ---
 
 With schema.xml, I'm rather clueless. -Dsolr.solr.home=/home/me/solr/
 doesn't do the trick as this stuff is also hardcoded
 (in /usr/share/solr/WEB-INF/jetty-web.xml -- which is part of
 solr-jetty). Actually, that's the only purpose of jetty-web.xml, which
 is evaluated because of jetty's context settings (I think). Moreover,
 I'm trying not to duplicate the other contents of that directory, so
 setting solr.solr.home to a different location might not be what I
want
 at all.
 
 I think my most relevant questions are:
 1. Is anyone able to successfully run jetty with solr
 via /usr/share/jetty/start.jar as a non-root user (ideally from within
 any directory, not just from within /usr/share/jetty)? If yes: how?
 2. How can I make solr use my schema.xml instead of the one installed?
 3. I haven't tried the whole thing in tomcat yet, so does anyone know
if
 it would be easier there -- maybe because configuration files aren't
 that much entangled and hardcoded there? (In the end, I might have to
do
 the whole thing also for tomcat anyway as I'm build-depending on
 solr-jetty | solr-tomcat which conflict each other).
 
 I'm kinda desperate with the load of configuration files, so I'd
really
 appreciate any help that gets me closer to get this thing done.
 Kind regards
 Bernhard

Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 23:57 +0100 schrieb Peter Karich:
 Hi,
 
 don't know if the python package provides one but solrj offers to start 
 solr embedded (|EmbeddedSolrServer|) and
 setting up different schema + config is possible. for this see:
 https://karussell.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/how-to-test-apache-solrj/
 
 if you need an 'external solr' (via jetty and java -jar start.jar) while 
 tests running see this:
 http://java.dzone.com/articles/getting-know-solr
 
 Regards,
 Peter.
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
  see
  http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/
 
  In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
  know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
  Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
  temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
  -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?
 
  TIA
  Bernhard Reiter
 
 




RE: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-14 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi,

I have up to now focussed on Jetty as it's already bundled with solr.
The main issue there seems to be the way it's unbundled by Debian; I
figure things might be similar with Tomcat, depending on how entangled
configuration is there. 

Before I dig deeper into the Tomcat option: would you mind sending me
the script you mention? Maybe that could clear up things a bit.

Regards
Bernhard

Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 17:16 -0500 schrieb Turner, Robbin J:
 You can setup your own tomcat instance which would contain just 
 configurations you need.  You won't even have to recreate all the tomcat 
 configuration and binaries, just the ones that were not defaults.  So, if you 
 lookup multiple tomcat configuration instance (google it), and then you'll 
 have a set of directories.   You'll need to have your own startup script that 
 points to your configurations.  You can use the current startup script as a 
 model, then in your build procedures (I've done all this with a script) have 
 this added to the system so you can preform restart.  You'd have to have a 
 couple of other environment variables set:
 
 export CATALINA_BASE=/path/to/your/tomcat/instance/conf/files
 export CATALINA_HOME=/path/to/default/installation/bin/files
 export SOLR_HOME=/path/to/solr/dataNconf
 
 Good luck
 
 
 From: Bernhard Reiter [ock...@raz.or.at]
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:49 PM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: RE: Testing/packaging question
 
 Thanks for your instructions. Unfortunately, I need to do all that as
 part of my package's (python-solrpy) build procedure, so I can't change
 any global configuration, such as in the catalina subdirectories.
 
 I've already sensed that restarting tomcat is also just too
 system-invasive and would include changing its (system-wide)
 configuration.
 
 Are there any other ways to use solr for running the tests from
 http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/solrpy/solrpy-0.9.3.tar.gz
 without having to change any system configuration? Maybe via a user
 Tomcat instance such as provided by the tomcat6-user debian package?
 
 Thanks for your help!
 Bernhard
 
 Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 16:15 -0500 schrieb Turner, Robbin J:
  You need to either add that to catalina.sh or create a setenv.sh in the 
  CATALINA_HOME/bin directory.  Then you can restart tomcat.
 
  So, setenv.sh would contain the following:
 
 export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/jre
 export JAVA_OPTS==$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml
 
  If you were setting the export in your own environment and then issuing the 
  restart, tomcat was not picking up your local environment because it's 
  running as root.  You don't want to change root's environment.
 
  You could also, create a context.xml in you 
  CATALINA_HOME/conf/CATALINA/localhost.  You should be able to find those 
  instruction on/through the Solr FAQ.
 
  Hope this helps.
  
  From: Bernhard Reiter [ock...@raz.or.at]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:49 PM
  To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Testing/packaging question
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm now trying to
 
  export JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml
 
  and restarting tomcat (v6 package from ubuntu maverick) via
 
  sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat6 restart
 
  but solr still doesn't seem to find that schema.xml, as it complains
  about unknown fields when running the tests that require that schema.xml
 
  Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong -- and what I should be
  doing?
 
  TIA again,
  Bernhard
 
  Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
   Hi,
  
   I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
   see
   http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/
  
   In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
   know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
   Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
   temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
   -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?
  
   TIA
   Bernhard Reiter




Re: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-04 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi, 

I'm now trying to 

export JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml

and restarting tomcat (v6 package from ubuntu maverick) via

sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat6 restart

but solr still doesn't seem to find that schema.xml, as it complains
about unknown fields when running the tests that require that schema.xml

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong -- and what I should be
doing?

TIA again,
Bernhard

Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
 Hi, 
 
 I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
 see
 http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/
 
 In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
 know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
 Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
 temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
 -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?
 
 TIA
 Bernhard Reiter




RE: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-04 Thread Olson, Ron
I believe it should point to the directory above, where conf and lib are 
located (though I have a multi-core setup).

Mine is set to:

/usr/local/jboss-5.1.0.GA/server/solr/solr_data/

And in solr_data the solr.xml defines the two cores, but in each core 
directory, is a conf, data, and lib directory, which contains the schema.xml.



-Original Message-
From: Bernhard Reiter [mailto:ock...@raz.or.at]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:49 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Testing/packaging question

Hi,

I'm now trying to

export JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml

and restarting tomcat (v6 package from ubuntu maverick) via

sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat6 restart

but solr still doesn't seem to find that schema.xml, as it complains
about unknown fields when running the tests that require that schema.xml

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong -- and what I should be
doing?

TIA again,
Bernhard

Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
 Hi,

 I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
 see
 http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/

 In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
 know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
 Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
 temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
 -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?

 TIA
 Bernhard Reiter




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RE: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-04 Thread Turner, Robbin J
You need to either add that to catalina.sh or create a setenv.sh in the 
CATALINA_HOME/bin directory.  Then you can restart tomcat.  

So, setenv.sh would contain the following:

   export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/jre
   export JAVA_OPTS==$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml

If you were setting the export in your own environment and then issuing the 
restart, tomcat was not picking up your local environment because it's running 
as root.  You don't want to change root's environment.

You could also, create a context.xml in you 
CATALINA_HOME/conf/CATALINA/localhost.  You should be able to find those 
instruction on/through the Solr FAQ.

Hope this helps. 

From: Bernhard Reiter [ock...@raz.or.at]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:49 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Testing/packaging question

Hi,

I'm now trying to

export JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml

and restarting tomcat (v6 package from ubuntu maverick) via

sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat6 restart

but solr still doesn't seem to find that schema.xml, as it complains
about unknown fields when running the tests that require that schema.xml

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong -- and what I should be
doing?

TIA again,
Bernhard

Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
 Hi,

 I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
 see
 http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/

 In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
 know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
 Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
 temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
 -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?

 TIA
 Bernhard Reiter

RE: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-04 Thread Bernhard Reiter
The thing is, I only have a schema.xml -- no data, no lib directories.

See the tests subdirectory in the solrpy package:
http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/solrpy/solrpy-0.9.3.tar.gz

Bernhard

Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 15:59 -0500 schrieb Olson, Ron:
 I believe it should point to the directory above, where conf and lib are 
 located (though I have a multi-core setup).
 
 Mine is set to:
 
 /usr/local/jboss-5.1.0.GA/server/solr/solr_data/
 
 And in solr_data the solr.xml defines the two cores, but in each core 
 directory, is a conf, data, and lib directory, which contains the schema.xml.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bernhard Reiter [mailto:ock...@raz.or.at]
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:49 PM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Testing/packaging question
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm now trying to
 
 export JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml
 
 and restarting tomcat (v6 package from ubuntu maverick) via
 
 sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat6 restart
 
 but solr still doesn't seem to find that schema.xml, as it complains
 about unknown fields when running the tests that require that schema.xml
 
 Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong -- and what I should be
 doing?
 
 TIA again,
 Bernhard
 
 Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
  Hi,
 
  I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
  see
  http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/
 
  In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
  know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
  Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
  temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
  -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?
 
  TIA
  Bernhard Reiter
 
 
 
 
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RE: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-04 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Thanks for your instructions. Unfortunately, I need to do all that as
part of my package's (python-solrpy) build procedure, so I can't change
any global configuration, such as in the catalina subdirectories.

I've already sensed that restarting tomcat is also just too
system-invasive and would include changing its (system-wide)
configuration. 

Are there any other ways to use solr for running the tests from
http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/solrpy/solrpy-0.9.3.tar.gz
without having to change any system configuration? Maybe via a user
Tomcat instance such as provided by the tomcat6-user debian package?

Thanks for your help!
Bernhard

Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 16:15 -0500 schrieb Turner, Robbin J:
 You need to either add that to catalina.sh or create a setenv.sh in the 
 CATALINA_HOME/bin directory.  Then you can restart tomcat.  
 
 So, setenv.sh would contain the following:
 
export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/jre
export JAVA_OPTS==$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml
 
 If you were setting the export in your own environment and then issuing the 
 restart, tomcat was not picking up your local environment because it's 
 running as root.  You don't want to change root's environment.
 
 You could also, create a context.xml in you 
 CATALINA_HOME/conf/CATALINA/localhost.  You should be able to find those 
 instruction on/through the Solr FAQ.
 
 Hope this helps. 
 
 From: Bernhard Reiter [ock...@raz.or.at]
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:49 PM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Testing/packaging question
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm now trying to
 
 export JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml
 
 and restarting tomcat (v6 package from ubuntu maverick) via
 
 sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat6 restart
 
 but solr still doesn't seem to find that schema.xml, as it complains
 about unknown fields when running the tests that require that schema.xml
 
 Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong -- and what I should be
 doing?
 
 TIA again,
 Bernhard
 
 Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
  Hi,
 
  I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
  see
  http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/
 
  In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
  know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
  Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
  temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
  -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?
 
  TIA
  Bernhard Reiter




RE: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-04 Thread Turner, Robbin J
You can setup your own tomcat instance which would contain just configurations 
you need.  You won't even have to recreate all the tomcat configuration and 
binaries, just the ones that were not defaults.  So, if you lookup multiple 
tomcat configuration instance (google it), and then you'll have a set of 
directories.   You'll need to have your own startup script that points to your 
configurations.  You can use the current startup script as a model, then in 
your build procedures (I've done all this with a script) have this added to the 
system so you can preform restart.  You'd have to have a couple of other 
environment variables set:

export CATALINA_BASE=/path/to/your/tomcat/instance/conf/files
export CATALINA_HOME=/path/to/default/installation/bin/files
export SOLR_HOME=/path/to/solr/dataNconf

Good luck


From: Bernhard Reiter [ock...@raz.or.at]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:49 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Testing/packaging question

Thanks for your instructions. Unfortunately, I need to do all that as
part of my package's (python-solrpy) build procedure, so I can't change
any global configuration, such as in the catalina subdirectories.

I've already sensed that restarting tomcat is also just too
system-invasive and would include changing its (system-wide)
configuration.

Are there any other ways to use solr for running the tests from
http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/solrpy/solrpy-0.9.3.tar.gz
without having to change any system configuration? Maybe via a user
Tomcat instance such as provided by the tomcat6-user debian package?

Thanks for your help!
Bernhard

Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 16:15 -0500 schrieb Turner, Robbin J:
 You need to either add that to catalina.sh or create a setenv.sh in the 
 CATALINA_HOME/bin directory.  Then you can restart tomcat.

 So, setenv.sh would contain the following:

export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/jre
export JAVA_OPTS==$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml

 If you were setting the export in your own environment and then issuing the 
 restart, tomcat was not picking up your local environment because it's 
 running as root.  You don't want to change root's environment.

 You could also, create a context.xml in you 
 CATALINA_HOME/conf/CATALINA/localhost.  You should be able to find those 
 instruction on/through the Solr FAQ.

 Hope this helps.
 
 From: Bernhard Reiter [ock...@raz.or.at]
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:49 PM
 To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Testing/packaging question

 Hi,

 I'm now trying to

 export JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Dsolr.solr.home=/path/to/my/schema.xml

 and restarting tomcat (v6 package from ubuntu maverick) via

 sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat6 restart

 but solr still doesn't seem to find that schema.xml, as it complains
 about unknown fields when running the tests that require that schema.xml

 Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong -- and what I should be
 doing?

 TIA again,
 Bernhard

 Am Montag, den 01.11.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
  Hi,
 
  I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
  see
  http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/
 
  In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
  know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
  Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
  temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
  -- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?
 
  TIA
  Bernhard Reiter

Re: Testing/packaging question

2010-11-04 Thread Peter Karich

 Hi,

don't know if the python package provides one but solrj offers to start 
solr embedded (|EmbeddedSolrServer|) and

setting up different schema + config is possible. for this see:
https://karussell.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/how-to-test-apache-solrj/

if you need an 'external solr' (via jetty and java -jar start.jar) while 
tests running see this:

http://java.dzone.com/articles/getting-know-solr

Regards,
Peter.



Hi,

I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
see
http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/

In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
-- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?

TIA
Bernhard Reiter





Testing/packaging question

2010-11-01 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi, 

I'm pretty much of a Solr newbie currently packaging solrpy for Debian;
see
http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/python-solrpy/trunk/

In order to run solrpy's supplied tests at build time, I'd need Solr to
know about the schema.xml that comes with the tests.
Can anyone tell me how do that properly? I'd basically need Solr to
temporarily recognize that schema.xml without permanently installing it
-- is there any way to do this, eg via environment variables?

TIA
Bernhard Reiter