Re: to cloud or not to cloud

2018-09-26 Thread Jeff Courtade
APX=approximately sorry

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:09 PM Shawn Heisey  wrote:

> On 9/26/2018 9:45 AM, Jeff Courtade wrote:
> > We are considering a move to solr 7.x  my question is Must we use cloud?
> We
> > currently do not and all is well. It seems all work is done referencing
> > cloud implementations.
>
> You do not have to use cloud.
>
> For most people who are starting from scratch, I would suggest using
> SolrCloud.  Many many things are just a lot easier with cloud.
>
> For somebody who has an existing setup that's NOT running cloud, if they
> are happy with their setup, I see no reason to change it ... but those
> people should at least *investigate* SolrCloud, just to find out whether
> it might make their operations easier.
>
> > solr 4.3.0 master/slave
> > 14 servers RHEL 32 core 96 gb ram 7 shards one replica per shard
> > Total index is 333Gb around 47.5 GB per server.
> > APX 2million docs per shard
>
> Sharded indexes are a LOT easier in SolrCloud.  I have dealt with
> sharded indexes without cloud.  If SolrCloud had existed when I began
> that work, I would have definitely used it. That index might still be
> using master/slave, but it was not possible to set up replication
> between 1.4.1 and 3.2.0, so master/slave went out the window.
>
> I have no idea what APX is.
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
>
>


Re: to cloud or not to cloud

2018-09-26 Thread Shawn Heisey

On 9/26/2018 9:45 AM, Jeff Courtade wrote:

We are considering a move to solr 7.x  my question is Must we use cloud? We
currently do not and all is well. It seems all work is done referencing
cloud implementations.


You do not have to use cloud.

For most people who are starting from scratch, I would suggest using 
SolrCloud.  Many many things are just a lot easier with cloud.


For somebody who has an existing setup that's NOT running cloud, if they 
are happy with their setup, I see no reason to change it ... but those 
people should at least *investigate* SolrCloud, just to find out whether 
it might make their operations easier.



solr 4.3.0 master/slave
14 servers RHEL 32 core 96 gb ram 7 shards one replica per shard
Total index is 333Gb around 47.5 GB per server.
APX 2million docs per shard


Sharded indexes are a LOT easier in SolrCloud.  I have dealt with 
sharded indexes without cloud.  If SolrCloud had existed when I began 
that work, I would have definitely used it. That index might still be 
using master/slave, but it was not possible to set up replication 
between 1.4.1 and 3.2.0, so master/slave went out the window.


I have no idea what APX is.

Thanks,
Shawn



Re: to cloud or not to cloud

2018-09-26 Thread David Hastings
Agree with Walter.  I personally really like the master slave set up for my use 
cases.  



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From: Walter Underwood 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 11:50 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: to cloud or not to cloud

Cloud is very useful if you shard or need near real-time indexing.

For non-sharded,  non real time collections, I really like master/slave.
The loose coupling between master and slave makes it trivial to scale
out. Just clone a slave and fire it up.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wun...@wunderwood.org
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

> On Sep 26, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Jeff Courtade  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We are considering a move to solr 7.x  my question is Must we use cloud? We
> currently do not and all is well. It seems all work is done referencing
> cloud implementations.
>
> We have
>
> solr 4.3.0 master/slave
> 14 servers RHEL 32 core 96 gb ram 7 shards one replica per shard
> Total index is 333Gb around 47.5 GB per server.
> APX 2million docs per shard
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jeff Courtade
> M: 240.507.6116



Re: to cloud or not to cloud

2018-09-26 Thread Walter Underwood
Cloud is very useful if you shard or need near real-time indexing.

For non-sharded,  non real time collections, I really like master/slave.
The loose coupling between master and slave makes it trivial to scale
out. Just clone a slave and fire it up.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wun...@wunderwood.org
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

> On Sep 26, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Jeff Courtade  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We are considering a move to solr 7.x  my question is Must we use cloud? We
> currently do not and all is well. It seems all work is done referencing
> cloud implementations.
> 
> We have
> 
> solr 4.3.0 master/slave
> 14 servers RHEL 32 core 96 gb ram 7 shards one replica per shard
> Total index is 333Gb around 47.5 GB per server.
> APX 2million docs per shard
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jeff Courtade
> M: 240.507.6116



to cloud or not to cloud

2018-09-26 Thread Jeff Courtade
Hi,

We are considering a move to solr 7.x  my question is Must we use cloud? We
currently do not and all is well. It seems all work is done referencing
cloud implementations.

We have

solr 4.3.0 master/slave
14 servers RHEL 32 core 96 gb ram 7 shards one replica per shard
Total index is 333Gb around 47.5 GB per server.
APX 2million docs per shard



-- 

Jeff Courtade
M: 240.507.6116