Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Dropping i386 for Spacewalk Server?

2011-03-28 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 03/25/2011 08:16 PM, Luc de Louw wrote:
 The other question that arises is: How would this affect RHN-Satellite?

I got this idea for Spacewalk. It is still my personal idea. When and if
we do this for Spacewalk, then we may start thinking about RHN
Satellite. But that is far future.

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Dropping i386 for Spacewalk Server?

2011-03-25 Thread Cliff Perry

Miroslav Suchý wrote:

On 03/25/2011 02:00 PM, Michael Gliwinski wrote:

Anyway, may I ask why?  Is it getting in the way somehow?


It cost resources. Especially for testing.



Think of the big picture matrix of OS + arch combinations.


http://spacewalk.redhat.com/yum/1.3/

Fedora 13
1) i386
2) x86_64

Fedora 14
3) i386
4) x86_64

RHEL 5
5) i386
6) x86_64

RHEL 6
7) i386
8) x86_64

To release, that is at least 8 combinations to ensure they build, 
install and function. Plus upgrade paths to each.


Dropping i386, cuts this work in half, allowing us to release 
quicker/easier (ideally).


Cliff

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Dropping i386 for Spacewalk Server?

2011-03-25 Thread Michael Gliwinski
On Friday 25 Mar 2011 14:34:38 Cliff Perry wrote:
 Miroslav Suchý wrote:
  On 03/25/2011 02:00 PM, Michael Gliwinski wrote:
  Anyway, may I ask why?  Is it getting in the way somehow?
  
  It cost resources. Especially for testing.
 
 Think of the big picture matrix of OS + arch combinations.
 
 
 http://spacewalk.redhat.com/yum/1.3/
 
 Fedora 13
 1) i386
 2) x86_64
 
 Fedora 14
 3) i386
 4) x86_64
 
 RHEL 5
 5) i386
 6) x86_64
 
 RHEL 6
 7) i386
 8) x86_64
 
 To release, that is at least 8 combinations to ensure they build,
 install and function. Plus upgrade paths to each.
 
 Dropping i386, cuts this work in half, allowing us to release
 quicker/easier (ideally).

Got it.  Didn't realise you do separate testing for each combination :P

Which rel would you intend to be the first x86_64-only one? 1.4 or later?


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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Dropping i386 for Spacewalk Server?

2011-03-25 Thread Luc de Louw

On 03/25/2011 03:34 PM, Cliff Perry wrote:

Miroslav Suchý wrote:

On 03/25/2011 02:00 PM, Michael Gliwinski wrote:

Anyway, may I ask why? Is it getting in the way somehow?


It cost resources. Especially for testing.



Think of the big picture matrix of OS + arch combinations.


http://spacewalk.redhat.com/yum/1.3/

Fedora 13
1) i386
2) x86_64

Fedora 14
3) i386
4) x86_64

RHEL 5
5) i386
6) x86_64

RHEL 6
7) i386
8) x86_64



People tend to re-use old hardware as test-beds. A lot of this hardware 
is still 32bit.


On the other hand, I agree with Cliff, it costs resources and thus time 
and money.


How about a compromise? Drop i386 support for Fedora and keep it for EL5 
and EL6?


The other question that arises is: How would this affect RHN-Satellite?

Thanks,

Luc


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