Re: [Spacewalk-list] Errata files

[Avi Miller]

Hi,

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:32 am, jin  wrote:
> 
> Thanks that explains a lot of thing. May i ask that the document you shared 
> in previous mail, mentioning this kind of situations ?


To be honest I don’t think we’ve documented this particular situation. I’ve 
never been asked this specific question before. :)

Ta,
Avi

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Errata files

[jin]

So, I'm a bit overkill...

Thanks that explains a lot of thing. May i ask that the document you shared
in previous mail, mentioning this kind of situations ?

On Fri, 1 Jun 2018, 01:27 Avi Miller,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:18 am, jin 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you Avi for this explanation. How did i know that there is a weird
> situation, becouse whole errata counts is really less than channel's (lets
> say oraclelinux6) errata counts. I did not count every single errata but
> web page says these are different. When i follow web page "Errata -> All"
> it says there are 1900 errata and "Channels -> Oracle Linux 6" has 7000
> errata. These aren't the Actual numbers but i saw that total errata count
> is way too much less than channel's errata counts. Is this normal ?
>
>
> It's normal. :)
>
> Using your numbers, there have been 7000 errata released since the initial
> GA of Oracle Linux 6 (back in 2011). However, only 1900 errata are
> currently active. The other 5100 errata have been superseded by one of the
> 1900 active ones, i.e. an RPM that's had 10 errata since release only has 1
> active/latest one and 9 older ones.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Cheers,
> Avi
>
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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Errata files

[Avi Miller]

Hi,

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:18 am, jin  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Avi for this explanation. How did i know that there is a weird 
> situation, becouse whole errata counts is really less than channel's (lets 
> say oraclelinux6) errata counts. I did not count every single errata but web 
> page says these are different. When i follow web page "Errata -> All" it says 
> there are 1900 errata and "Channels -> Oracle Linux 6" has 7000 errata. These 
> aren't the Actual numbers but i saw that total errata count is way too much 
> less than channel's errata counts. Is this normal ? 


It's normal. :)

Using your numbers, there have been 7000 errata released since the initial GA 
of Oracle Linux 6 (back in 2011). However, only 1900 errata are currently 
active. The other 5100 errata have been superseded by one of the 1900 active 
ones, i.e. an RPM that's had 10 errata since release only has 1 active/latest 
one and 9 older ones. 

Does that make sense?

Cheers,
Avi

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Errata files

[jin]

Thank you Avi for this explanation. How did i know that there is a weird
situation, becouse whole errata counts is really less than channel's (lets
say oraclelinux6) errata counts. I did not count every single errata but
web page says these are different. When i follow web page "Errata -> All"
it says there are 1900 errata and "Channels -> Oracle Linux 6" has 7000
errata. These aren't the Actual numbers but i saw that total errata count
is way too much less than channel's errata counts. Is this normal ?

On Fri, 1 Jun 2018, 00:19 Avi Miller,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 1 Jun 2018, at 12:43 am, jin 
> wrote:
>
> I just got a spacewalk server that runs Oracle Spacewalk ver. 2.4. It
> looks like the "Errata" pages on UI not listing all erratas. But when I use
> UI to check "Channels", I can see "Erratas" related that channel and they
> look sync with repos on internet. I am a newbie for Spacewalk. While trying
> to sync channels on cli, I use "spacewalk-repo-sync -c " and
> command reports "success" after a while. Looks ok but every time it reports
> "repo uln://xyz  has 1313 errata" and the reported errata count never
> decrease.
>
>
> You don't really explain how you know that the Errata page isn't showing
> all the errata, but by default it only shows you errata that are applicable
> to the systems subscribed to Spacewalk. So, if none of your systems have a
> particular RPM installed, errata for that RPM will not be displayed. This
> could explain why you're only seeing a subset of the errata that may be
> available.
>
> If you click Errata -> "All" (on the left hand menu), then you'll see all
> errata imported into Spacewalk itself.
>
> Also, errata get superseded, so while the sync will never reduce the
> number of errata, it may not match the ones actually imported by Spacewalk.
> Finally, if you exclude packages or channels, some errata may not be
> imported due to the fact that the RPMs required to resolve the errata are
> not synced into Spacewalk.
>
>
> I'm following Red Hat's documents (Satellite 5.X) for Spacewalk and have
> no clue yet. Does anybody have any idea where I can start the troubleshoot
> steps ?
>
>
> We have extensive documentation here:
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E92593_01/index.html
>
> Also, if you have an Oracle Linux support subscription, you can open an SR
> with Oracle because Spacewalk is included under your support agreement.
>
> Thanks,
> Avi
>
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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Errata files

[Avi Miller]

Hi,

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 12:43 am, jin  wrote:
> 
> I just got a spacewalk server that runs Oracle Spacewalk ver. 2.4. It looks 
> like the "Errata" pages on UI not listing all erratas. But when I use UI to 
> check "Channels", I can see "Erratas" related that channel and they look sync 
> with repos on internet. I am a newbie for Spacewalk. While trying to sync 
> channels on cli, I use "spacewalk-repo-sync -c " and command 
> reports "success" after a while. Looks ok but every time it reports "repo 
> uln://xyz  has 1313 errata" and the reported errata count never decrease. 

You don't really explain how you know that the Errata page isn't showing all 
the errata, but by default it only shows you errata that are applicable to the 
systems subscribed to Spacewalk. So, if none of your systems have a particular 
RPM installed, errata for that RPM will not be displayed. This could explain 
why you're only seeing a subset of the errata that may be available.

If you click Errata -> "All" (on the left hand menu), then you'll see all 
errata imported into Spacewalk itself.

Also, errata get superseded, so while the sync will never reduce the number of 
errata, it may not match the ones actually imported by Spacewalk. Finally, if 
you exclude packages or channels, some errata may not be imported due to the 
fact that the RPMs required to resolve the errata are not synced into Spacewalk.

> 
> I'm following Red Hat's documents (Satellite 5.X) for Spacewalk and have no 
> clue yet. Does anybody have any idea where I can start the troubleshoot steps 
> ?

We have extensive documentation here: 
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E92593_01/index.html 


Also, if you have an Oracle Linux support subscription, you can open an SR with 
Oracle because Spacewalk is included under your support agreement.

Thanks,
Avi

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