Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
Hi Nat - I'm not quite sure what you mean by class. Breno, Dick, Eran, and I had a conversation about AX earlier this month where discussed the ability for AX to define objects or collections of attributes, as opposed to just simple key/value pairs. Is this what you're referring to? If so, then this should be in scope. Allen Nat Sakimura wrote: +1 but where does the class in the earlier post of mine fits into in the scope? On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Breno de Medeiros br...@google.com mailto:br...@google.com wrote: siiigh. That is what senility feels like. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com mailto:a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1, but I don't know who this Tom Allen is. Allen Breno de Medeiros wrote: Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com mailto:a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com mailto:mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com mailto:d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com mailto:br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp mailto:hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp mailto:n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net mailto:specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs -- Nat Sakimura (=nat) http://www.sakimura.org/en/ ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
Yes, that is what I had in mind. Feel free to edit the wiki directly. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Hi Nat - I'm not quite sure what you mean by class. Breno, Dick, Eran, and I had a conversation about AX earlier this month where discussed the ability for AX to define objects or collections of attributes, as opposed to just simple key/value pairs. Is this what you're referring to? If so, then this should be in scope. Allen Nat Sakimura wrote: +1 but where does the class in the earlier post of mine fits into in the scope? On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Breno de Medeiros br...@google.com wrote: siiigh. That is what senility feels like. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1, but I don't know who this Tom Allen is. Allen Breno de Medeiros wrote: Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs -- Nat Sakimura (=nat) http://www.sakimura.org/en/ -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
RE: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
To be clear, once this proposal has stopped changing, the proposers will need to send a version in an e-mail message to the specs list asking that the working group be created. The reason it needs to be in e-mail rather than on the wiki is that the archived version of the e-mail won't change, whereas the wiki can. Although I agree that *developing* charters on the wiki is a fine idea. Cheers, -- Mike -Original Message- From: specs-boun...@openid.net [mailto:specs-boun...@openid.net] On Behalf Of Breno de Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:33 PM To: Allen Tom Cc: mgra...@janrain.com; OpenID Specs Mailing List; Dick Hardt; hd...@ic-tact.co.jp Subject: Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal Yes, that is what I had in mind. Feel free to edit the wiki directly. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Hi Nat - I'm not quite sure what you mean by class. Breno, Dick, Eran, and I had a conversation about AX earlier this month where discussed the ability for AX to define objects or collections of attributes, as opposed to just simple key/value pairs. Is this what you're referring to? If so, then this should be in scope. Allen Nat Sakimura wrote: +1 but where does the class in the earlier post of mine fits into in the scope? On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Breno de Medeiros br...@google.com wrote: siiigh. That is what senility feels like. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1, but I don't know who this Tom Allen is. Allen Breno de Medeiros wrote: Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs -- Nat Sakimura (=nat) http://www.sakimura.org/en/ -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
Allen Tom wrote: Hi Nat - I'm not quite sure what you mean by class. Nat previously talked about the idea of bundling several attributes together into a single namespace rather than assigning a URL to each individual scalar attributes. He referred to it as a class though you might instead want to think of it as a struct. As I recall (I can't find the original message right now) the propsal went something like: ns.blah=http://example.com/some-struct blah.field1=xyz blah.field2=abc blah.field3=123 This way the URL is only included once, making the overall message shorter. ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
+1, but I don't know who this Tom Allen is. Allen Breno de Medeiros wrote: Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
siiigh. That is what senility feels like. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1, but I don't know who this Tom Allen is. Allen Breno de Medeiros wrote: Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
+1 but where does the class in the earlier post of mine fits into in the scope? On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Breno de Medeiros br...@google.com wrote: siiigh. That is what senility feels like. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1, but I don't know who this Tom Allen is. Allen Breno de Medeiros wrote: Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs -- Nat Sakimura (=nat) http://www.sakimura.org/en/ ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Re: Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
I noticed a typo. Dick's mail address is not skip.com it is d...@sxip.com. =nat On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com wrote: +1 but where does the class in the earlier post of mine fits into in the scope? On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Breno de Medeiros br...@google.comwrote: siiigh. That is what senility feels like. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Allen Tom a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1, but I don't know who this Tom Allen is. Allen Breno de Medeiros wrote: Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs -- Nat Sakimura (=nat) http://www.sakimura.org/en/ -- Nat Sakimura (=nat) http://www.sakimura.org/en/ ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
Request for consideration of Working Group Charter Proposal
I would like to submit the following proposal for a new Working Group charter to your consideration, following the OpenID IPR process: The proposal charter is also available at: http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups:AX_2.0 OpenID Attribute Exchange 2.0 Working Group (AX 2.0) Charter Proposal In accordance with the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and procedures this note proposes the formation of a new working group chartered to produce an OpenID specification. As per Section 4.1 of the Policies, the proposed charter is below (still liable to change during this feedback period). I. Name Attribute Exchange Extension Working Group (AX) II. Statement of Purpose Produce an updated version of the Attribute Exchange Extension. III. Scope Update the Attribute Exchange Extension to include support for identified needs. Currently identified needs: * Provide mechanisms for RP to require, and the OP to assert, claims about the quality of the attributes. * Create an extensible registry of claim types, such as axschema.org for attribute types. The registry should also provide non-normative guidance on how claims can be validated, which will depend on the nature of attribute type as well as claim type. * Introduce a new request/response mode which, unlike fetch and store, allows for both transmittal of some values and request of others. The transmittal not necessarily has the significance of a store request (could be informative, or for requesting validation). * Introduce a direct communication method in both directions (OP-RP), supported via discovery, for bulk exchange of attributes about (potentially) multiple users. IV. Specifications OpenID Attribute Exchange 2.0 V. Anticipated audience All those interested in the obtaining attributes about users authenticated via OpenID. VI. Language of business English. VII. Method of work Mailing list discussion. Posting of intermediate drafts in the OpenID Wiki. Virtual conferencing on an ad-hoc basis. VIII. Basis for completion of the activity The Attribute Exchange 2.0 spec final draft is delivered and the form of management and maintenance of the registry is established. Background Information I. Related Work Attribute Exchange (1.0), and Simple Registration. II. Initial Membership * Tom Allen, a...@yahoo-inc.com. Yahoo! Inc (editor) * Mike Graves, mgra...@janrain.com, JanRain, Inc. * Dick Hardt, d...@skip.com. Sxip Identity. * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com. Google, Inc. (editor) * Hideki Nara, hd...@ic-tact.co.jp, Tact Communications * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp (editor) -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
