Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
> > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > Thanks for the info Victor. > > > > I will try to set it up and because I am new to the code base and have no > > idea where to start, I will ping you on IRC for help if you don't mind > > (assuming you're `toso`). > > As discussed by IRC in regards to the preferred video-codec message, > I've pushed it to my gitlab, you should be able to build with master > spice-protocol and the stream-preference branches from: > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-common spice-common upstream (master) already contains everything necessary Frediano > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-gtk > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice > > Let me know if you have any issues and comments/suggestions are welcome! > > Cheers, > toso > > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Victor Toso wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > > > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > > > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > > > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > > > > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > > > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > > > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right > > > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > > > > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using > > > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. > > > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > > > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets > > > (and hw decoding) if possible. > > > > > > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup > > > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > > > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started > > > playing with that first [0] > > > > > > [0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017- > > > January/034815.html > > > > > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw decoding > > > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free to > > > jump in :) > > > > > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > > > > > Indeed > > > > > > > > > > > Frediano > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of > > > remote > > > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some > > > guidance to > > > > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > > > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > > > > > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > > > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > > > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin > > > to > > > > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to > > > spice (as > > > > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), > > > > > would > > > be > > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: >
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
On Thu, 2017-01-12 at 04:04 +0330, Armin Ranjbar wrote: > Thanks! > > i can not see anything changed in spice-common and spice (judging by > last commits), am i wrong? > Changes are in stream-preference branches For spice: https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice/commits/stream-preference > > --- > Armin ranjbar > > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:34 AM, Victor Toso > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > Thanks for the info Victor. > > > > > > I will try to set it up and because I am new to the code base > > and have no > > > idea where to start, I will ping you on IRC for help if you > > don't mind > > > (assuming you're `toso`). > > > > As discussed by IRC in regards to the preferred video-codec > > message, > > I've pushed it to my gitlab, you should be able to build with > > master > > spice-protocol and the stream-preference branches from: > > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-common > > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-gtk > > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice > > > > Let me know if you have any issues and comments/suggestions are > > welcome! > > > > Cheers, > > toso > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Victor Toso > om> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio > > wrote: > > > > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. > > We wanted > > > > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that > > include GPU > > > > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate > > the overall > > > > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of > > months. > > > > > > > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody > > are doing > > > > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to > > handle > > > > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing > > the right > > > > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > > > > > > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client > > using > > > > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding > > specifically. > > > > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > > > > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi > > elemets > > > > (and hw decoding) if possible. > > > > > > > > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to > > setup > > > > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > > > > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've > > started > > > > playing with that first [0] > > > > > > > > [0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017- > > > > January/034815.html > > > > > > > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle > > hw decoding > > > > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, > > feel free to > > > > jump in :) > > > > > > > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > > > > > > > Indeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Frediano > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with > > implementation of > > > > remote > > > > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > > > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for > > some > > > > guidance to > > > > > > make some contribution while I am working on my > > specialization. > > > > > > > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with > > Spice: > > > > > > > > > &g
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
Thanks! i can not see anything changed in spice-common and spice (judging by last commits), am i wrong? --- Armin ranjbar On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:34 AM, Victor Toso wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > Thanks for the info Victor. > > > > I will try to set it up and because I am new to the code base and have no > > idea where to start, I will ping you on IRC for help if you don't mind > > (assuming you're `toso`). > > As discussed by IRC in regards to the preferred video-codec message, > I've pushed it to my gitlab, you should be able to build with master > spice-protocol and the stream-preference branches from: > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-common > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-gtk > - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice > > Let me know if you have any issues and comments/suggestions are welcome! > > Cheers, > toso > > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Victor Toso > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > > > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > > > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > > > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > > > > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > > > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > > > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the > right > > > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > > > > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using > > > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. > > > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > > > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets > > > (and hw decoding) if possible. > > > > > > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup > > > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > > > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started > > > playing with that first [0] > > > > > > [0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017- > > > January/034815.html > > > > > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw > decoding > > > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free > to > > > jump in :) > > > > > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > > > > > Indeed > > > > > > > > > > > Frediano > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of > > > remote > > > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some > > > guidance to > > > > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > > > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > > > > > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > > > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > > > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should > begin > > > to > > > > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to > > > spice (as > > > > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), > would > > > be > > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as > well. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
Hi, On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > Thanks for the info Victor. > > I will try to set it up and because I am new to the code base and have no > idea where to start, I will ping you on IRC for help if you don't mind > (assuming you're `toso`). As discussed by IRC in regards to the preferred video-codec message, I've pushed it to my gitlab, you should be able to build with master spice-protocol and the stream-preference branches from: - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-common - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice-gtk - https://gitlab.com/victortoso/spice Let me know if you have any issues and comments/suggestions are welcome! Cheers, toso > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Victor Toso wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right > > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using > > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. > > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets > > (and hw decoding) if possible. > > > > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup > > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started > > playing with that first [0] > > > > [0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017- > > January/034815.html > > > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw decoding > > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free to > > jump in :) > > > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > > > Indeed > > > > > > > > Frediano > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of > > remote > > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some > > guidance to > > > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > > > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin > > to > > > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to > > spice (as > > > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would > > be > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I am busy with my speci
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
Hi, On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > Thanks for the info Victor. > > I will try to set it up and because I am new to the code base and have > no idea where to start, I will ping you on IRC for help if you don't > mind (assuming you're `toso`). That's me, yes :) Setting up to have a VM with streaming mode enable + a client using gstreamer will be a good first step. Cheers, toso > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Victor Toso wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right > > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using > > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. > > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets > > (and hw decoding) if possible. > > > > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup > > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started > > playing with that first [0] > > > > [0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017- > > January/034815.html > > > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw decoding > > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free to > > jump in :) > > > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > > > Indeed > > > > > > > > Frediano > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of > > remote > > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some > > guidance to > > > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > > > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin > > to > > > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to > > spice (as > > > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would > > be > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I am busy with my specialization at Saxion university > > which > > > > > > > > > > is about virtualization of graphic cards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
Hi, On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 11:46:56AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right > > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using > > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. > > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets > > (and hw decoding) if possible. > > > > This is partially true. > The best path is never leaving the GPU for the output but I don't > think this is so automatic. Since gstreamer 1.10, I think they will always try to setup hw decoding if possible. Still, I find it important to improve handling this in spice-gtk for robustness (not because it is or it isn't automatic in gstreamer). To be honest, I did not spend too much time thinking on it yet. We should ask in #gstreamer for some input/ideas on dealing with different decoders + hw capability. > > > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup > > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started > > playing with that first [0] > > > > [0] > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017-January/034815.html > > > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw decoding > > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free to > > jump in :) > > > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > > > Indeed > > > > Not sure how you can use DirectX or other Windows libraries for h/w > decoding. No clue yet but I'll try to keep it close to gst as we can (new plugins if necessary) Cheers, toso > > Frediano > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of > > > > remote > > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some guidance > > > > to > > > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > > > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin to > > > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to spice > > > > (as > > > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would > > > > be > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &g
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
> > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets > (and hw decoding) if possible. > This is partially true. The best path is never leaving the GPU for the output but I don't think this is so automatic. > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started > playing with that first [0] > > [0] > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017-January/034815.html > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw decoding > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free to > jump in :) > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > Indeed > Not sure how you can use DirectX or other Windows libraries for h/w decoding. Frediano > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some guidance > > > to > > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin to > > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to spice > > > (as > > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would be > > > very helpful. > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I am busy with my specialization at Saxion university > > > > > which > > > > > > > > is about virtualization of graphic cards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering how I can get involved to implement 3D accelerated VM > > > > > > > > over network with spice. And after that, maybe, with using the GPU of > > > > > > > > the system that runs spice to decode the video stream. Essentially, I > > > > > > > > am looking for your guidance to understand what needs to be done so I > > > > > > > > can get on with implementing it. > > > > > > > > > That question is asked best on the spice-devel mainling list (added to > > > > > > > Cc:). > > > > > > > > > Improving video encoding support in spice is making progress, and > > > > remote > > > > > > > support for virtio-gpu (and intel-vgpu) will build on top of that. > > > > > > > > > But I don't know in detail what the status is and what still needs to > > > > be > > > > > > > done to complete remote support. > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > Gerd > > > > > > > > -- > > > regards, > > > behrooz > > ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
Thanks for the info Victor. I will try to set it up and because I am new to the code base and have no idea where to start, I will ping you on IRC for help if you don't mind (assuming you're `toso`). On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Victor Toso wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right > > plugins, test and package them correctly > > Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using > gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. > If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling > SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets > (and hw decoding) if possible. > > But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup > spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding > possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started > playing with that first [0] > > [0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017- > January/034815.html > > With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw decoding > will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free to > jump in :) > > > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). > > Indeed > > > > > Frediano > > > > - Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > > To: "spice-devel" > > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of > remote > > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some > guidance to > > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin > to > > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to > spice (as > > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would > be > > > very helpful. > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > > wrote: > > > > > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I am busy with my specialization at Saxion university > which > > > > > > > > is about virtualization of graphic cards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering how I can get involved to implement 3D accelerated > VM > > > > > > > > over network with spice. And after that, maybe, with using the GPU > of > > > > > > > > the system that runs spice to decode the video stream. > Essentially, I > > > > > > > > am looking for your guidance to understand what needs to be done > so I > > > > > > > > can get on with implementing it. > > > > > > > > > That question is asked best on the spice-devel mainling list (added > to > > > > > > > Cc:). > > > > > > > > > Improving video encoding support in spice is making progress, and > remote > > > > > > > support for virtio-gpu (and intel-vgpu) will build on top of that. > > > > > > > > > But I don't know in detail what the status is and what still needs > to be > > > > > > > done to complete remote support. > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > Gerd > > > > > > > > -- > > > regards, > > > behrooz > > > > > ___ > > > Spice-devel mailing list > > > Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel > > > ___ > > Spice-devel mailing list > > Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel > > -- regards, behrooz ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
Hi, On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:27:35AM -0500, Frediano Ziglio wrote: > The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted > to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU > passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall > design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. > > About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing > some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle > decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right > plugins, test and package them correctly Yes, I'm trying to play with it now and then in the client using gstreamer1-vaapi it works but we don't handle hw decoding specifically. If you have all the right bits installed, you can try enabling SPICE_GSTVIDEO_AUTO which uses decodebin. It should try vaapi elemets (and hw decoding) if possible. But to have this working nicely, we should have an easy way to setup spice-sever to use vp8 or h264 which broadens the hw decoding possibilities (and makes much easier to test too!) - So, I've started playing with that first [0] [0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2017-January/034815.html With that in, working on improving the client-side to handle hw decoding will be easier. If you are interested in the decoding side, feel free to jump in :) > (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). Indeed > > Frediano > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > > To: "spice-devel" > > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote > > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > > > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > > > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some guidance to > > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > > > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > > > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin to > > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to spice (as > > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would be > > very helpful. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > wrote: > > > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > > > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I am busy with my specialization at Saxion university which > > > > > > is about virtualization of graphic cards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering how I can get involved to implement 3D accelerated VM > > > > > > over network with spice. And after that, maybe, with using the GPU of > > > > > > the system that runs spice to decode the video stream. Essentially, I > > > > > > am looking for your guidance to understand what needs to be done so I > > > > > > can get on with implementing it. > > > > > > That question is asked best on the spice-devel mainling list (added to > > > > > Cc:). > > > > > > Improving video encoding support in spice is making progress, and remote > > > > > support for virtio-gpu (and intel-vgpu) will build on top of that. > > > > > > But I don't know in detail what the status is and what still needs to be > > > > > done to complete remote support. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > Gerd > > > > > -- > > regards, > > behrooz > > > ___ > > Spice-devel mailing list > > Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel > ___ > Spice-devel mailing list > Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
The patches for Virgl are working and require only tweaks. We wanted to have some working PoC for all next 3D software, that include GPU passtrough to make sure that the Virgl doesn't complicate the overall design. We plan to have these definitive PoCs in a couple of months. About video streaming acceleration for the client somebody are doing some stuff. Recent client versions are using gstreamer to handle decoding so potentially this could be a question of choosing the right plugins, test and package them correctly (this is more challenging for Windows for instance). Frediano - Original Message - > From: "Behrooz Shabani" > To: "spice-devel" > Cc: "Armin Ranjbar" > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:39:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote > spice for 3D accelerated VMs > Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), > As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some guidance to > make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. > At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: > * Remote access with 3D acceleration > * Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. > However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin to > contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to spice (as > I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would be > very helpful. > Thanks in advance. > P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann < kra...@redhat.com > wrote: > > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, I am busy with my specialization at Saxion university which > > > > is about virtualization of graphic cards. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering how I can get involved to implement 3D accelerated VM > > > > over network with spice. And after that, maybe, with using the GPU of > > > > the system that runs spice to decode the video stream. Essentially, I > > > > am looking for your guidance to understand what needs to be done so I > > > > can get on with implementing it. > > > That question is asked best on the spice-devel mainling list (added to > > > Cc:). > > > Improving video encoding support in spice is making progress, and remote > > > support for virtio-gpu (and intel-vgpu) will build on top of that. > > > But I don't know in detail what the status is and what still needs to be > > > done to complete remote support. > > > cheers, > > > Gerd > > -- > regards, > behrooz > ___ > Spice-devel mailing list > Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
Thanks Gerd and hello mailing list :-), As it is obvious from my previous email, I am looking for some guidance to make some contribution while I am working on my specialization. At this moment, I know what I like to be able to do with Spice: - Remote access with 3D acceleration - Decoding the video stream via GPU on the client. However, I have no idea what their status is and where I should begin to contribute. Therefore, any information towards making me useful to spice (as I want to do more than just basing my research on virtgl/spice), would be very helpful. Thanks in advance. P.S. I have joined the IRC channel with the nickname `behrooz` as well. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > > Hi Gerd, > > > > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > > > > Currently, I am busy with my specialization at Saxion university which > > is about virtualization of graphic cards. > > > > > > I was wondering how I can get involved to implement 3D accelerated VM > > over network with spice. And after that, maybe, with using the GPU of > > the system that runs spice to decode the video stream. Essentially, I > > am looking for your guidance to understand what needs to be done so I > > can get on with implementing it. > > That question is asked best on the spice-devel mainling list (added to > Cc:). > > Improving video encoding support in spice is making progress, and remote > support for virtio-gpu (and intel-vgpu) will build on top of that. > > But I don't know in detail what the status is and what still needs to be > done to complete remote support. > > cheers, > Gerd > > > -- regards, behrooz ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
Re: [Spice-devel] Getting involved with implementation of remote spice for 3D accelerated VMs
On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 15:40 +0100, Behrooz Shabani wrote: > Hi Gerd, > > > I hope you are doing well. > > > I watched one of your talks about virgl and spice, great work! > > > Currently, I am busy with my specialization at Saxion university which > is about virtualization of graphic cards. > > > I was wondering how I can get involved to implement 3D accelerated VM > over network with spice. And after that, maybe, with using the GPU of > the system that runs spice to decode the video stream. Essentially, I > am looking for your guidance to understand what needs to be done so I > can get on with implementing it. That question is asked best on the spice-devel mainling list (added to Cc:). Improving video encoding support in spice is making progress, and remote support for virtio-gpu (and intel-vgpu) will build on top of that. But I don't know in detail what the status is and what still needs to be done to complete remote support. cheers, Gerd ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
