RE: Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage
Agreed. Have worked with several of the breweries here in SD and they keep LOTS of malted barley and wheat on hand, nearly all of it in similar large sacks. Steve Leyton, President T | 619.255.8964 x 102 | www.protectiondesign.com 2851 Camino Del Rio South | Suite 210 | San Diego, CA 92108 Fire Protection System Design | Consulting | Planning | Training -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Larry Keeping via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 1:13 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Larry Keeping ; Jamie Seidl Subject: RE: Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage >From NFPA 13-2016, Table A.5.6.3: Food Products - Non-Frozen Dry foods (such as baked goods, candy, cereals, cheese, chocolate, cocoa, coffee, grains, granular sugar, nuts, etc.); bagged or cartoned Class III Larry Keeping -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl via Sprinklerforum Sent: April 7, 2021 3:38 PM To: Sprinklerforum Cc: Jamie Seidl Subject: Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage Warning! This email came from outside your company. I am looking at a project that is storing soybean, corn, oat and wheat seeds in large polypropylene bags (think large sand / rock bags) . The client has indicated that these are to be stored on floor, two high for a total storage height of less than 12'. I know NFPA 13 does not address this, and FM seems to be silent also. Based on the storage height, and free flowing nature of the product I am leaning towards an ordinary group 2 classification, but wanted to run it by the forumites to see if anyone has run across this in the past. Any Takers? Thanks, Jamie Seidl ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
RE: Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage
>From NFPA 13-2016, Table A.5.6.3: Food Products - Non-Frozen Dry foods (such as baked goods, candy, cereals, cheese, chocolate, cocoa, coffee, grains, granular sugar, nuts, etc.); bagged or cartoned Class III Larry Keeping -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl via Sprinklerforum Sent: April 7, 2021 3:38 PM To: Sprinklerforum Cc: Jamie Seidl Subject: Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage Warning! This email came from outside your company. I am looking at a project that is storing soybean, corn, oat and wheat seeds in large polypropylene bags (think large sand / rock bags) . The client has indicated that these are to be stored on floor, two high for a total storage height of less than 12'. I know NFPA 13 does not address this, and FM seems to be silent also. Based on the storage height, and free flowing nature of the product I am leaning towards an ordinary group 2 classification, but wanted to run it by the forumites to see if anyone has run across this in the past. Any Takers? Thanks, Jamie Seidl ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
RE: [EXTERNAL] Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage
Jamie, My opinion would be Ordinary Hazard Group 2. Rusty Gipson Fire Plans Examiner/ Inspector Department of Planning | Cayman Islands Government | Government Administration Building, 133 Elgin Avenue | PO Box 113, Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands KY1-9000 I +1 345 244-6501 (Main ) +1 345 244-6536(Direct) (+1 345 936-6533 (Cell) +1 345 769-2922 (Fax) russell.gip...@gov.ky|| www.planning.ky -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:46 PM To: Sprinklerforum Cc: Jamie Seidl Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage Rusty, This is storage only, for later shipment to farmers. Thanks, Jamie On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:42 PM Gipson, Russell via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Is it storage only ,or, will they be bagging in the same area also? > Thinking about dust production > > Rusty Gipson > Fire Plans Examiner/ Inspector > Department of Planning | Cayman Islands Government | Government > Administration Building, > 133 Elgin Avenue | PO Box 113, Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands KY1-9000 > I +1 345 244-6501 (Main ) +1 345 244-6536(Direct) > (+1 345 936-6533 (Cell) +1 345 769-2922 (Fax) > russell.gip...@gov.ky|| > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.planning.ky__;!!EuRrQOsPEno!LcAmsWyma2YqrtSKOlxMvIM5OLV0H11vA7SkW_vPt9aaRbU4qwpJQK1j3Fx13b2VEkV8$ > > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl > via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:38 PM > To: Sprinklerforum > Cc: Jamie Seidl > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage > > I am looking at a project that is storing soybean, corn, oat and wheat > seeds in large polypropylene bags (think large sand / rock bags) . The > client has indicated that these are to be stored on floor, two high for a > total storage height of less than 12'. I know NFPA 13 does not address > this, and FM seems to be silent also. > Based on the storage height, and free flowing nature of the product I am > leaning towards an ordinary group 2 classification, but wanted to run it by > the forumites to see if anyone has run across this in the past. > Any Takers? > > Thanks, > Jamie Seidl > ___ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!EuRrQOsPEno!Mxi_5mGcrvGNjZgPI-xUZ63tZaqRjMSb6zCQvqu21TzP_FFRMQpnGYq60DVls639jHOX$ > ___ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!EuRrQOsPEno!LcAmsWyma2YqrtSKOlxMvIM5OLV0H11vA7SkW_vPt9aaRbU4qwpJQK1j3Fx13Vt058vc$ > > ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!EuRrQOsPEno!LcAmsWyma2YqrtSKOlxMvIM5OLV0H11vA7SkW_vPt9aaRbU4qwpJQK1j3Fx13Vt058vc$ ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
Re: [EXTERNAL] Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage
Rusty, This is storage only, for later shipment to farmers. Thanks, Jamie On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:42 PM Gipson, Russell via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Is it storage only ,or, will they be bagging in the same area also? > Thinking about dust production > > Rusty Gipson > Fire Plans Examiner/ Inspector > Department of Planning | Cayman Islands Government | Government > Administration Building, > 133 Elgin Avenue | PO Box 113, Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands KY1-9000 > I +1 345 244-6501 (Main ) +1 345 244-6536(Direct) > (+1 345 936-6533 (Cell) +1 345 769-2922 (Fax) > russell.gip...@gov.ky|| www.planning.ky > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl > via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:38 PM > To: Sprinklerforum > Cc: Jamie Seidl > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage > > I am looking at a project that is storing soybean, corn, oat and wheat > seeds in large polypropylene bags (think large sand / rock bags) . The > client has indicated that these are to be stored on floor, two high for a > total storage height of less than 12'. I know NFPA 13 does not address > this, and FM seems to be silent also. > Based on the storage height, and free flowing nature of the product I am > leaning towards an ordinary group 2 classification, but wanted to run it by > the forumites to see if anyone has run across this in the past. > Any Takers? > > Thanks, > Jamie Seidl > ___ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!EuRrQOsPEno!Mxi_5mGcrvGNjZgPI-xUZ63tZaqRjMSb6zCQvqu21TzP_FFRMQpnGYq60DVls639jHOX$ > ___ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
RE: [EXTERNAL] Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage
Is it storage only ,or, will they be bagging in the same area also? Thinking about dust production Rusty Gipson Fire Plans Examiner/ Inspector Department of Planning | Cayman Islands Government | Government Administration Building, 133 Elgin Avenue | PO Box 113, Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands KY1-9000 I +1 345 244-6501 (Main ) +1 345 244-6536(Direct) (+1 345 936-6533 (Cell) +1 345 769-2922 (Fax) russell.gip...@gov.ky|| www.planning.ky -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:38 PM To: Sprinklerforum Cc: Jamie Seidl Subject: [EXTERNAL] Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage I am looking at a project that is storing soybean, corn, oat and wheat seeds in large polypropylene bags (think large sand / rock bags) . The client has indicated that these are to be stored on floor, two high for a total storage height of less than 12'. I know NFPA 13 does not address this, and FM seems to be silent also. Based on the storage height, and free flowing nature of the product I am leaning towards an ordinary group 2 classification, but wanted to run it by the forumites to see if anyone has run across this in the past. Any Takers? Thanks, Jamie Seidl ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!EuRrQOsPEno!Mxi_5mGcrvGNjZgPI-xUZ63tZaqRjMSb6zCQvqu21TzP_FFRMQpnGYq60DVls639jHOX$ ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
Soybean, corn, oat, & wheat storage
I am looking at a project that is storing soybean, corn, oat and wheat seeds in large polypropylene bags (think large sand / rock bags) . The client has indicated that these are to be stored on floor, two high for a total storage height of less than 12'. I know NFPA 13 does not address this, and FM seems to be silent also. Based on the storage height, and free flowing nature of the product I am leaning towards an ordinary group 2 classification, but wanted to run it by the forumites to see if anyone has run across this in the past. Any Takers? Thanks, Jamie Seidl ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
