Re: [sqlite] Unsigned

2018-08-24 Thread Darren Duncan

On 2018-08-20 11:46 PM, D Burgess wrote:

Is there a historical reason why sqlite does not have a UNSIGNED type
to go with INTEGER?


What is the value of a built-in UNSIGNED type when we already have INTEGER?  I 
can't think of any. -- Darren Duncan

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Re: [sqlite] keys

2018-08-24 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Friday, 24 August, 2018 17:31, w...@us.net wrote:

>"The parent key of a foreign key constraint is not allowed to use the
>rowid. The parent key must used named columns only."

>Why is this?

You should think of this as:

>"The parent key of a foreign key constraint is not allowed to use the
>rowid. The parent key must use named columns only, which may include
>an explicitly named rowid (INTEGER PRIMARY KEY) column."

This is because unless the rowid column (the INTEGER PRIMARY KEY) of a standard 
table is explicitly named, it's value will not be dumped by the dump command, 
and may be changed by running operations such as VACUUM on the database (since 
it is not a named data item of the row -- it is merely an internal ephemeral 
identifier not associated with the rest of the row -- it is not a candidate key 
for the row).  If the INTEGER PRIMARY KEY is explicitly named then it is a 
"value" in the row and will be dumped by the dump command, and will not change 
when a vacuum of the database is done since it is a part of the row data (as a 
named column it is a valid candidate key for the row).

Otherwise it is still the "record number" of the row within the table and the 
behaviour associated with that status is not changed (that is, its value cannot 
be null and if you attempt to insert a record with a null INTEGER PRIMARY KEY 
(record number) the value will be set to one greater that the maximum record 
number in use at the time of insert (or with AUTOINCREMENT, one greater than 
any record number ever inserted in the table).

Also, you (or someone else) may in the future add a column to the table called 
"rowid" which would mask the original "rowid" thus destroying referential 
integrity since unless explicitly given a name references to "rowid" are 
magical.

>Which would be more efficient?
>1) WITHOUT ROWID and column of INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
>or
>2) an aliased rowid.

No idea since the underlying structures are different between ROWID and WITHOUT 
ROWID tables.  

In a ROWID table the INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (the implicit record number) 
identifies the "row" in the storage B-Tree directly -- you may still have other 
keys (PRIMARY or UNIQUE) which are merely additional indexes on the table data 
columns with the RowID being the payload of the index; however, the "record 
number" INTEGER PRIMARY KEY always exists as the primary identifier of the row.

WITHOUT ROWID tables are conceptually just index B-Tree's where the declared 
PRIMARY KEY is the record key in the index and the other columns are the 
payload.

The primary difference that you would notice is that in a WITHOUT ROWID table 
you would have to explicitly give each row a unique rowid value rather than 
allow the database engine to create one for you when you insert data.

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Re: [sqlite] keys

2018-08-24 Thread Simon Slavin
On 25 Aug 2018, at 12:31am, w...@us.net wrote:

> "The parent key of a foreign key constraint is not allowed to use the rowid. 
> The parent key must used named columns only."
> 
> Why is this?

Because it's not named.  In theory you could later add a column named 'rowid' 
to mean a BLOB column.

> Which would be more efficient?
> 1) WITHOUT ROWID and column of INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
> or
> 2) an aliased rowid.

I think it would be (2).  Actually define the column 'rowid' as INTEGER PRIMARY 
KEY.

Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] keys

2018-08-24 Thread ward

got it. Thanks.

On 2018-08-24 19:36, J Decker wrote:

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4:31 PM  wrote:


"The parent key of a foreign key constraint is not allowed to use the
rowid. The parent key must used named columns only."

Why is this?
Which would be more efficient?
1) WITHOUT ROWID and column of INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
or
2) an aliased rowid.


I expect because rowid is subject to change
insert 3 records, delete the first, and 2, 3 become 1 and 2 ... which 
would

have to cascade update ALL other FK refs...




Background: The data is sparse, incomplete, and fuzzy. Two records are
known to have a relationship
even though the content that identifies this relation is not known.


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Re: [sqlite] keys

2018-08-24 Thread J Decker
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4:31 PM  wrote:

> "The parent key of a foreign key constraint is not allowed to use the
> rowid. The parent key must used named columns only."
>
> Why is this?
> Which would be more efficient?
> 1) WITHOUT ROWID and column of INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
> or
> 2) an aliased rowid.
>
I expect because rowid is subject to change
insert 3 records, delete the first, and 2, 3 become 1 and 2 ... which would
have to cascade update ALL other FK refs...


>
> Background: The data is sparse, incomplete, and fuzzy. Two records are
> known to have a relationship
> even though the content that identifies this relation is not known.
>
>
> Lyle Ward
> Genealogist
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[sqlite] keys

2018-08-24 Thread ward
"The parent key of a foreign key constraint is not allowed to use the 
rowid. The parent key must used named columns only."


Why is this?
Which would be more efficient?
1) WITHOUT ROWID and column of INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
or
2) an aliased rowid.

Background: The data is sparse, incomplete, and fuzzy. Two records are 
known to have a relationship

even though the content that identifies this relation is not known.


Lyle Ward
Genealogist

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Re: [sqlite] Query optimisation

2018-08-24 Thread David Wellman
Hi Richard and David,

Many thanks for your responses, very useful.

I'll work with that (being careful to look at the OpCode documentation for my 
release of sqlite!) and see where I get to.

Cheers,
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-Original Message-
From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On 
Behalf Of Richard Hipp
Sent: 24 August 2018 15:43
To: SQLite mailing list
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Query optimisation

On 8/24/18, David Raymond  wrote:
> Running just "explain some query" will give you the virtual machine program
> that it plans on using. You can then scan through that to see what it's
> doing. Note that the descriptions on the below page for those op codes are
> sometimes really confusing and it can take a while to decypher what's going
> on.
>
> https://www.sqlite.org/opcode.html

To further confuse matters, the https://www.sqlite.org/opcode.html
page only describes the opcodes for the latest release (3.24.0)
whereas the OP is using an earlier release (3.20, I think).  Opcodes
and their meanings can change from one release to the next.

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Re: [sqlite] Query optimisation

2018-08-24 Thread Richard Hipp
On 8/24/18, David Raymond  wrote:
> Running just "explain some query" will give you the virtual machine program
> that it plans on using. You can then scan through that to see what it's
> doing. Note that the descriptions on the below page for those op codes are
> sometimes really confusing and it can take a while to decypher what's going
> on.
>
> https://www.sqlite.org/opcode.html

To further confuse matters, the https://www.sqlite.org/opcode.html
page only describes the opcodes for the latest release (3.24.0)
whereas the OP is using an earlier release (3.20, I think).  Opcodes
and their meanings can change from one release to the next.

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Re: [sqlite] Query optimisation

2018-08-24 Thread David Raymond
Running just "explain some query" will give you the virtual machine program 
that it plans on using. You can then scan through that to see what it's doing. 
Note that the descriptions on the below page for those op codes are sometimes 
really confusing and it can take a while to decypher what's going on.

https://www.sqlite.org/opcode.html


"(Assumption) Any row in the relation table that does NOT meet the WHERE clause 
is ignored."

Down below, lines 5 and 6 (and 24) are in the outer loop and basically say "if 
waStatsIDCount is not null then go to the next record", so correct.


"For each qualifying row in the relation table read from waSTATSINFO_VT using 
the PK index to try and find a match"

Line 14 shows that it's using waStatsInfo_VT (the main rowid/integer primary 
key table) for that part of the program. and Line 17 has it trying to find a 
matching rowid


"Where there is a match, update the relation table."

Even if there isn't a match. In that case it would get updated with null. All 
of the "whether or not to actually do the update" bits have already been looked 
at.


SQLite version 3.20.1 2017-08-24 16:21:36
Enter ".help" for usage hints.
Connected to a transient in-memory database.
Use ".open FILENAME" to reopen on a persistent database.

sqlite> create table relation (relationKey integer primary key, waStatsIDCount, 
queryID);

sqlite> create table waStatsInfo_VT (relationKey integer primary key, 
waStatsIDCount);

sqlite> explain query plan update relation set waStatsIDCount = (select 
src.waStatsIDCount from waStatsInfo_VT as src where src.relationKey = 
relation.relationKey) where waStatsIDCount is null and queryID = 2;
selectid|order|from|detail
0|0|0|SCAN TABLE relation
0|0|0|EXECUTE CORRELATED SCALAR SUBQUERY 0
0|0|0|SEARCH TABLE waStatsInfo_VT AS src USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)

sqlite> explain update relation set waStatsIDCount = (select src.waStatsIDCount 
from waStatsInfo_VT as src where src.relationKey = relation.relationKey) where 
waStatsIDCount is null and queryID = 2;
addr  opcode p1p2p3p4 p5  comment
  -        -  --  -
0 Init   0 26000  Start at 26
1 Null   0 1 200  r[1..2]=NULL
2 OpenWrite  0 2 0 3  00  root=2 iDb=0; relation
3 Explain0 0 0 SCAN TABLE relation  00
4 Rewind 0 25000
5   Column 0 1 600  
r[6]=relation.waStatsIDCount
6   NotNull6 24000  if r[6]!=NULL goto 
24
7   Column 0 2 700  
r[7]=relation.queryID
8   Ne 8 247 (BINARY)   51  if r[7]!=r[8] goto 
24
9   Rowid  0 2 000  r[2]=rowid
10  IsNull 2 25000  if r[2]==NULL goto 
25
11  Null   0 3 000  r[3]=NULL
12  Null   0 9 900  r[9..9]=NULL; Init 
subquery result
13  Integer1 10000  r[10]=1; LIMIT 
counter
14  OpenRead   1 3 0 2  00  root=3 iDb=0; 
waStatsInfo_VT
15  Explain0 0 0 SEARCH TABLE waStatsInfo_VT AS src 
USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)  00
16  Rowid  0 11000  r[11]=rowid
17  SeekRowid  1 2011   00  intkey=r[11]; pk
18  Column 1 1 900  
r[9]=waStatsInfo_VT.waStatsIDCount
19  DecrJumpZero   1020000  if (--r[10])==0 
goto 20
20  SCopy  9 4 000  r[4]=r[9]
21  Column 0 2 500  
r[5]=relation.queryID
22  MakeRecord 3 3 7 D  00  r[7]=mkrec(r[3..5])
23  Insert 0 7 2 relation   07  intkey=r[2] 
data=r[7]
24Next   0 5 001
25Halt   0 0 000
26Transaction0 1 2 0  01  usesStmtJournal=0
27Integer2 8 000  r[8]=2
28Goto   0 1 000

sqlite>



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Behalf Of David Wellman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:47 AM
To: SQLite Users
Subject: [sqlite] Query optimisation

HI all,

 

I would like to use the following example as a learning exercise for myself
to check my understanding of part of sqlite processing.

 

I have the following query which functionally works fine, and to be upfront
about it the volume of data is so small that performance is not an issue.

 

The query:

update relation

   

[sqlite] Query optimisation

2018-08-24 Thread David Wellman
HI all,

 

I would like to use the following example as a learning exercise for myself
to check my understanding of part of sqlite processing.

 

I have the following query which functionally works fine, and to be upfront
about it the volume of data is so small that performance is not an issue.

 

The query:

update relation

   set wastatsidcount = (select src.wastatsidcount

  from waSTATSINFO_VT as src

  where src.relationkey = relation.relationkey)

where wastatsidcount is null

  and queryid = 2;

 

The plan:

If I run 'explain query plan' on this command it gives the following:

SelectedID  OrderFrom Detail

0  0  0  SCAN TABLE
relation

0  0  0  EXECUTE
CORRELATED SCALAR SUBQUERY 0

0  0  0  SEARCH TABLE
waSTATSINFO_VT AS src USING INTEGER PRIMARY KEY (rowid=?)

 

My 'src' table is defined with a PRIMARY KEY on column RELATIONKEY. 

The same column is also the primary key on the 'relation' table.

 

My understanding of this plan is:

-  Read the relation table using a full table scan

-  (Assumption) Any row in the relation table that does NOT meet the
WHERE clause is ignored.

-  For each qualifying row in the relation table read from
waSTATSINFO_VT using the PK index to try and find a match

-  Where there is a match, update the relation table.

 

Questions:

-  Is my assumption above ("Any row in the relation table that does
NOT meet the WHERE clause is ignored") correct?

-  Is there any form of 'explain' or other diagnostic output which
would show me this?
I tried the 'explain query plan' with and without the full WHERE clause and
it didn't change the output (I didn't understand the output from the plain
'explain' command!)

 

In this particular example I need the WHERE clause as coded in order to give
me the correct answer, but as I said at the start I'm trying to deepen my
knowledge of SQLite performance and it's optimiser.

 

I'm currently using v3.20.1.

 

Cheers,

Dave

 

 

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