Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.2.0 released

2021-09-15 Thread Michael Herger

I'm on LMS  8.1.2 and wanted to test the "output channel mode" feature
with two Pcp V7.0 players but after much fiddling about it's clear that


Why don't you update LMS as well as pCP and report back?
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] macOS Big Sur 11.6 warning

2021-09-15 Thread Michael Herger

Like I said, I'm not running LMS on 11.6, but the apps that had had full
disk access no longer do, and I can't bestow full disk access to
anything on my mac running 11.6


But how did you try to do so, how did you fail?
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] DSD player Plugin

2021-09-15 Thread viperrabbit


Need help.

I have LMS 8.2 installed on Asustor NAS.  After running a full scan, I
found out that DSD files were not scanned.  When I was running LMS 8.2
on my Windows 10 computer, DSD files were scanned.

Do I need to install the DSDPlayer plugin?   Where can I get this
plugin?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.2.0 released

2021-09-15 Thread doggod


Hi,
Not sure where I should ask but I try here first since I think my issue
is LMS related and also curios if the new mono features in LMS 8.2
perhaps solve this issue?

Ok first I've to admit, I'm not running LMS 8.2 so excuse me if this is
an issue when posting here. 

I'm on LMS  8.1.2 and wanted to test the "output channel mode" feature
with two Pcp V7.0 players but after much fiddling about it's clear that
it doesn't work as long as a PcP player is involved. When I tested with
two SqB Touch it works fine. Then I also tested with one Touch and
another Pcp which also didn't work. So my conclusion is that there is a
problem with this feature when running a Pcp player. Why is this? And is
it known problem? If so, would an upgrade to 8.2 solve it?

To make it clearer, what I mean with not working is that when I set Pcp
#1 as Left channel and Pcp #2 as Right and activate sync both players
are still in stereo mode.
And as said, same setup with two Touch works just fine, e.g they play in
mono.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Saved Playlists Not Playing All Items; show "cur" not "flc"

2021-09-15 Thread msg


bpa wrote: 
> There were some bugs fixed with cue files between 7.9 and 8.0 - not sure
> if the fixes made it into 7.9.4.
Thanks.  8.2.1 would have those, though, yeah?  That's what I'm running
now.  I sat on 7.9 for a long time.  I didn't notice the issue with
7.9.x and used the affected playlists regularly.  I just noticed it
wasn't working the other night after having upgraded to 8.x a few weeks
back while working to address an issue with Spotify playlists cutting
off at around 500 tracks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread slartibartfast


jotap_66 wrote: 
> Going to try it
> 
> JPI think you need to install the DSDplayer plugin as well.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread jotap_66


slartibartfast wrote: 
> That is where I got my test samples from.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Going to try it

JP



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread slartibartfast


garym wrote: 
> a quick google search for "free DSD audio tracks" led me here. Seems to
> be some DSD and MQA tracks that can be downloaded. They should work for
> testing.
> 
> https://www.oppodigital.com/hra/dsd-by-davidelias.aspxThat is where I got my 
> test samples from.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread garym


jotap_66 wrote: 
> No. They are examples from http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html?
> 
> But no DSD tracks
> 
> JP

a quick google search for "free DSD audio tracks" led me here. Seems to
be some DSD and MQA tracks that can be downloaded. They should work for
testing.

https://www.oppodigital.com/hra/dsd-by-davidelias.aspx



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread jotap_66


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Do you have any DSD tracks? They also need bitperfect playback to play
> natively. So if they play MQA has a chance.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk


No. They are examples from http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html?

But no DSD tracks

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread jotap_66


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Go into player settings/audio and disable Volume Adjustment/Replaygain.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I have "no volume adjustment" Is this correct?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Saved Playlists Not Playing All Items; show "cur" not "flc"

2021-09-15 Thread bpa


msg wrote: 
> This should help moving forward, but I'd like to understand why this
> stopped working.

There were some bugs fixed with cue files between 7.9 and 8.0 - not sure
if the fixes made it into 7.9.4.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread slartibartfast

jotap_66 wrote: 
> Ok. I always use 100%. How can I disconnect Replaygain?
> 
> I have set “no Volume Adjustments”
> 
> Thank you
> 
> JPDo you have any DSD tracks? They also need bitperfect playback to play
natively. So if they play MQA has a chance.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Saved Playlists Not Playing All Items; show "cur" not "flc"

2021-09-15 Thread msg


Hey Robb, thanks, I was thinking similar.  As a test last night on some
content in one of the problem playlists, I renamed the respective .cue
files for two albums to .cuex.  I haven't tried recreating the playlists
yet, though.  This didn't resolve the playback issue - LMS skips over
those tracks.

It looks like the only tracks that still work are those that were added
singularly, not as an album "add to playilst".  I imagine this operation
(from Orange Squeeze) pulled the info from the .cue files in those album
directories.

I'll try this again to rebuild a test playlist with the renamed .cue
files to see how it pulls in.  I do have .m3u files in these folders as
well.

Thanks for the lead.  This should help moving forward, but I'd like to
understand why this stopped working.  I have quite a few playlists and
would prefer not to recreate, or find a way to quickly repair them in a
text editor.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread slartibartfast


jotap_66 wrote: 
> Ok. I always use 100%. How can I disconnect Replaygain?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> JPGo into player settings/audio and disable Volume Adjustment/Replaygain.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread jotap_66


slartibartfast wrote: 
> You will need to set volume to 100% and probably turn off replaygain as
> well.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Ok. I always use 100%. How can I disconnect Replaygain?

Thank you

JP



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] macOS Big Sur 11.6 warning

2021-09-15 Thread dborod


Like I said, I'm not running LMS on 11.6, but the apps that had had full
disk access no longer do, and I can't bestow full disk access to
anything on my mac running 11.6



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] macOS Big Sur 11.6 warning

2021-09-15 Thread Michael Herger

I don't run LMS on Big Sur, but the Intel Mac that I use does, and it is
no longer able to grant 'Full Disk Access' to my installed apps after
installing yesterday's 11.6 update.


I'm still able to scan a mounted network share (don't have any memory 
stick here). What did you try? How did it fail? Anything in server.log?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread slartibartfast

jotap_66 wrote: 
> What I am saying is I got to decode HighRes files with LMS. Not only
> standard 16/44.. Also 24/96. But not MQA files.
> 
> It is possible that you are right. But I don’t know how to pass a file
> completely unchanged for my Dragonfly decode MQA. What options must I
> select in LMS to do that?  I read all the “LMS and MQA” thread but I do
> not understand what they did for MQA to work in LMS.
> 
> Could anybody help me? 
> 
> JPYou will need to set volume to 100% and probably turn off replaygain as
well.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread garym

jotap_66 wrote: 
> What I am saying if I got to decode HighRes files with LMS. Not only
> 16/44.. Also 24/96. But not MQA files.
> 
> It is possible that you are right. But I don’t know how to pass a file
> completely unchanged for my Dragonfly decode MQA. What options must I
> select in LMS to do that?  I read all the “LMS and MQA” thread but I do
> not understand what they did for MQA to work in LMS.
> 
> Could anybody help me? 
> 
> JO

as noted, decoding (playing) a 24/96 or 24/192 file is entirely
different from decoding MQA.   And is dragonfly an MQA-capable DAC? 
You'll need a DAC that is MQA capable to play any MQA files that are
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread jotap_66

adamdea wrote: 
> I am not understanding what you are saying. 
> In order to be decodable the MQA file must be passed completely
> unchanged (and that includes not having the volume changed by LMS). This
> not true of an ordinary flac file.
> Also, it did seem to me from the
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109269-LMS-and-MQA thread
> that some people had got MQA to work with LMS. perhaps @left channel can
> help

What I am saying if I got to decode HighRes files with LMS. Not only
16/44.. Also 24/96. But not MQA files.

It is possible that you are right. But I don’t know how to pass a file
completely unchanged for my Dragonfly decode MQA. What options must I
select in LMS to do that?  I read all the “LMS and MQA” thread but I do
not understand what they did for MQA to work in LMS.

Could anybody help me? 

JO



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] macOS Big Sur 11.6 warning

2021-09-15 Thread dborod


Hi,

I don't run LMS on Big Sur, but the Intel Mac that I use does, and it is
no longer able to grant 'Full Disk Access' to my installed apps after
installing yesterday's 11.6 update.

Just wanted anyone running LMS on Big Sur to be forewarned that there
might be an issue.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread adamdea


jotap_66 wrote: 
> Well. I almost sure the data is unchanged. In fact I have no problems
> using HighRes FLAC 24/96 files, but no MQA.
> 
> JPI am not understanding what you are saying. 
In order to be decodable the MQA file must be passed completely
unchanged (and that includes not having the volume changed by LMS). This
not true of an ordinary flac file.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread jotap_66


SpiderJon wrote: 
> Was one of those threads "'LMS and MQA'
> (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109269-LMS-and-MQA)"?
> 
> If it was, please excuse my suggesting it. 
> 
> But if not, it may be of interest, not least as the first poster asks "
> IS THERE ANYONE WITH ANY KIND OF SQUEEZEBOX OR SQUEEZELITE EMULATOR
> SUCCESSFULLY PASSING FULL MQA, REGARDLESS OF DAC"?


It were those threads 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread SpiderJon


jotap_66 wrote: 
> Hi:
> 
> A friend of mine asked me several times if MQA works in LMS. I always
> answer him I don't know. I have no interest in MQA. Anyway my friend is
> very interested in this.
> 
> I used several tests from here http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html and a
> Dragonfly Red, in a Mac and an iPad but these tests do not work
> 
> Am I doing something wrong? Is LMS compatible with MQA? 
> 
> I read several threads in this forum but at this time I don't know what
> is the correct answer

Was one of those threads "'LMS and MQA'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109269-LMS-and-MQA)"?

If it was, please excuse my suggesting it. 

But if not, it may be of interest, not least as the first poster asks "
IS THERE ANYONE WITH ANY KIND OF SQUEEZEBOX OR SQUEEZELITE EMULATOR
SUCCESSFULLY PASSING FULL MQA, REGARDLESS OF DAC"?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Saved Playlists Not Playing All Items; show "cur" not "flc"

2021-09-15 Thread RobbH


msg wrote: 
> I just recently started seeing that some playlists I saved do not play
> properly.
> LMS skips over certain tracks.  The tracks play fine if I browse to the
> artist, but not from these saved playlists.
> 
> The items show "File Format: cur"
> The items that play, show "File Format: flc"
> 
> I sat on 7.9.4 for a while and just recently updated to 8.2.1.
> I "cleared the library and rescanned everything".
> 
> Really not sure what to look for in this.
> The folders for some of these items have both .cue and .m3u files, as
> well as all the individual .flac files.
> 
> I tried renaming the .cue file to .cuex after some reading, and
> rescanned to see if it addressed the issue, but the issue remains.

This is just a guess on my part: you may need to recreate the problem
playlists.

Just yesterday, I found that tracks in a certain album were appearing
twice in My Music, once as "cur" files and once as "flc". Looking in the
directory, I found both a cue file and an m3u playlist, even though I
thought I had purged those files from my library some time ago. I
renamed those files to filename.cue.txt and filename.m3u.txt. After a
full rescan, the cur files no longer appear in My Music. But my guess is
that if they had been saved in a playlist, the playlist would still
point to the cur files. Again, that's only a guess. Good luck!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread adamdea


jotap_66 wrote: 
> Hi:
> 
> A friend of mine asked me several times if MQA works in LMS. I always
> answer him I don't know. I have no interest in MQA. Anyway my friend is
> very interested in this.
> 
> I used several tests from here http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html and a
> Dragonfly Red, in a Mac and an iPad but these tests do not work
> 
> Am I doing something wrong? Is LMS compatible with MQA? 
> 
> I read several threads in this forum but at this time I don't know what
> is the correct answer
> 
> Another question if is is there any DAC HAT for Rasperry Pi and an
> environment that could work with MQA
> 
> Could you help me?
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> JP
I claim  no expertise but are you sure you are passing through the data
unchanged ie with volume control at unity gain and no transcoding
upsampling etc. If you are then i can't see why it would not work. IIRC
from way back people used to check bit perfect output using dts encoded
tracks. 
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "in a Mac and an iPad". What is the
LMS server and what is the player?



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] MQA, LMS and...Rasperry Pi

2021-09-15 Thread jotap_66


Hi:

A friend of mine asked me several times if MQA works in LMS. I always
answer him I don't know. I have no interest in MQA. Anyway my friend is
very interested in this.

I used several tests from here http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html and a
Dragonfly Red, in a Mac and an iPad but these tests do not work

Am I doing something wrong? Is LMS compatible with MQA? 

I read several threads in this forum but at this time I don't know what
is the correct answer

Another question if is is there any DAC HAT for Rasperry Pi and an
environment that could work with MQA

Could you help me?

Best Regards

JP



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Ogg not playing as expected using Inguz EQ

2021-09-15 Thread bpa


Apesbrain wrote: 
> This works - EDIT IN PLUGIN.PM (24-BIT FLAC SECTION):
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > ogg flc * $CLIENTID$
  > # IFRD:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
  > [sox] -t ogg $FILE$ -t wav $RESAMPLE$ - | [$CONVAPP$] -id "$CLIENTID$" 
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
  > 

> > 
> 

I don't know about ogg streams so I am just commenting from general
knowledge and there may be no issue.

AFAICT you have added a "R" to the IFRD. The R implies - rule is to be
used to playing remote URLs.  

Have you tested this out with a remote URL - probably a OGG/Vorbis since
ogg/flac is ogf 
It's possible that LMS is handling remote OGG stream and so "I" stdin
will be used but if not then I think sox cannot handle URls as input.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Ogg not playing as expected using Inguz EQ

2021-09-15 Thread Apesbrain


This works - EDIT IN PLUGIN.PM (24-BIT FLAC SECTION):


Code:


  ogg flc * $CLIENTID$
# IFRD:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
[sox] -t ogg $FILE$ -t wav $RESAMPLE$ - | [$CONVAPP$] -id "$CLIENTID$" 
-wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
  



Because Inguz automatically generates its own custom-config.conf with
sections for each connected player, you need to edit this in the
plugin.pm file, delete the custom-config.conf file in the Inguz plugin
folder, and restart your server.  A new custom-config.conf will be
created.

To be safe, make "LAST GOOD" backups of any files you edit/delete.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.2.0 released

2021-09-15 Thread Michael Herger

Loading of a list of podcast episodes worked flawlessly and quickly
before upgrading LMS to 8.2.0, the list was loaded almost immediately.
Therefore, wouldn't be possible to enable / restore the previous loading
algorithm (for “-'pre-caching' the podcast image and 'info' data-”) as
an option in the Podcasts plugin settings?


When there's a new problem/challenge, then it should be fixed. Not tried 
to work around by adding even more complexity.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.2.0 released

2021-09-15 Thread Michael Herger

The scheduler might be a possibility, although my POC doesn't use it.
I'll look into Async::Util::amap(), of which I was previously
unaware...


I added it in 8.0. I was looking for something like the popular async JS 
library.



One issue to address is that the requests are initiated each time one
drives into the Podcast feed menu. So some kind of state needs to be
held, i.e. "Don't go and fetch this one, because we've already fired off
a fetch during the last podcast browse session."
The result of the requests is being cached. Therefore each of them 
should only be run once a day at max. Unless there's a bug somewhere.

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