Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
This morning I fired up a Late 2012 Mac Mini running Mojave v10.14.6 I connected a Topping DX3Pro Dac (using headphone output) and used Audio MIDI to set it for use as Sound Output. I plugged in a usb stick (Fat32 format) with a few albums to use instead of a HDD. I opened Safari and downloaded the latest Mac OSX installer. http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.3 I used the default installer to install the package and accepted all screen prompt requests for access. I used the Mac Systems Preferences pane (LMS Server was already running) to navigate to the usb stick. I then opened the default LMS gui, went to Basic Settings and scanned the usb disk into the Library. Next stop was Settings >> Plugins >> tick Update plugins automatcally >> Apply When the screen returned I ticked the box for Local Player, waited a minute and refreshed the screen. I did NOT go to the ADVANCED tab I then returned to the LMS Home Page and selected Squeezelite from the dropdown, selected an Album and hit Play. Music !!! I rebooted the Mac whilst it was playing (the setting in the Preference pane STATUS window was "Automatcally start server when system boots) Reopen windows when logging back in was ticked for the Restart (and I'm set to login automatically in Users & Groups) The windows reopend but the LMS restart failed ( thiis has been an unresolved problem for at least a couple of years) I clicked Start Server in the Status tab and all was well. I changed to "Automatically start server at login" This worked, but it does take a while and I had to refresh the LMS gui Hope this helps someone on the old 32bit OS ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
Back in September of this year I trialled LMS and the Local Player Plugin on my old iMac running Catalina. I was attempting to help someone on another forum with a similar install. I managed to get things working, (I did the perl and bash permissions thing) but it did not feel "just right". Tonight I installed LogitechMediaServer-8.3.1-1668720899.pkg over the top of the previous version. I accepted all permission requests. Updated the Plugins, and, using the System Preferences Pane window, navigated to an external usb 3 hub and loaded a small library of flac files. Playback was without any problem through the iMac's internal speakers. Tomorrow I'll try the Toslink output and maybe the USB. Seems like a winner Congrats and thanks to the folk responsible :) ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
This seems to work correctly. As expected, a one-time Allow Access dialog appears, and then the allowance is added to Files & Folders, and no longer requires re-authorizing with each server restart. Thanks for the confirmation! I'll merge that right away. New 8.3.1/8.4 should come with signed binaries. ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
mherger wrote: > > And it should give you some positive result. > > Does that change the behavior compared to the binary currently shipped? This seems to work correctly. As expected, a one-time Allow Access dialog appears, and then the allowance is added to Files & Folders, and no longer requires re-authorizing with each server restart. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
I'm trying to get a new build with a signed Perl out... but somehow Github doesn't want to accept my new file. It's been hanging for... half an hour? Or rather more. Anyway: I have a perl binary which should be signed. If you feel willing and able to tinker on the command line, please try the following: - Download https://www.dropbox.com/s/33y6sucf05rqj0x/perl.tar.bz2?dl=0 - Extract the archive - Copy the resulting perl file to /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl You can then: Code: codesign -v --verify /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl And it should give you some positive result. Does that change the behavior compared to the binary currently shipped? Michael "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!" (LMS: Settings/Information) mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
I can confirm that the codesign workaround works in Monterey as well. I did need to restart my Mac for LMS to reconnect to my Booms. Can also confirm that granting explicit Full Disk Access to bash and perl is no longer necessary and I removed those permissions in the Privacy Settings. dmw010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
mherger wrote: > I think > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116791-Most-recent-MacOS-update-broke-LMS=1065179=1#post1065179 > summarises it pretty well. Michael, thanks, that's helpful: I'll give that scheme a whirl when I do eventually move to Ventura. I tend to wait for .1 (not .0.X) before pressing the big update button. Tho from what you've been saying I'm guessing I might not have to do the extra stuff by then. whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
whitman wrote: > I've been waiting the usual see-what-it-throws-up gap before updating to > Ventura. I can't quite work out from the foregoing posts what I would > have to do to have LMS run on Ventura. Can anyone give a (sorry!) simple > answer for a non-techy Mac user? I think https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116791-Most-recent-MacOS-update-broke-LMS=1065179=1#post1065179 summarises it pretty well. Michael "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!" (LMS: Settings/Information) mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
I've been waiting the usual see-what-it-throws-up gap before updating to Ventura. I can't quite work out from the foregoing posts what I would have to do to have LMS run on Ventura. Can anyone give a (sorry!) simple answer for a non-techy Mac user? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
Does this mean that part of the build/release process will have to be outside of Github? It has never been there - yet. I was considering moving to Github, but the Windows and Mac builds are painful... Ralphy is working on a more open Windows build. Hopefully this will allow us to have a more standard build pipeline. The Mac builds will need a lot of work. We're working on the first step, to basically get LMS working on latest macOS. But some of the surrounding tools like the PrefPane are more than a decade old. That should be overhauled/replaced. But signing would still be a problem. You can integrate Github actions with external builders. A signing system is super sensitive. I would never be allowed to access this from outside the corporate network. ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
mherger wrote: > > It seems that just signing the perl binary is sufficient. > > Thanks a lot for the testing! Now I have to find the corporate signing > system which supports signing universal binaries... Does this mean that part of the build/release process will have to be outside of Github? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
It seems that just signing the perl binary is sufficient. Thanks a lot for the testing! Now I have to find the corporate signing system which supports signing universal binaries... ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
mherger wrote: > >codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane > >codesign -s - > /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl > > Or would signing the perl binary > be good enough? It seems that just signing the perl binary is sufficient. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
mherger wrote: > >codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane > >codesign -s - > /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl > > Is signing of both of these required? Or would signing the perl binary > be good enough? I'll explore this and see if I can make a determination. I initially signed the top-level bundle to satisify myself that indeed the extended attributes are no longer inherited by children. I didn't have time to re-test without the signature, so just provided the instructions as posted to allow others to make progress. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl Is signing of both of these required? Or would signing the perl binary be good enough? ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
mherger wrote: > >codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane > >codesign -s - > /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl > > Thanks a lot MrC! I think you're on the right path: while I do sign the > > installer, I never signed the new Perl binary, or the PrefPane! I'll > look into this ASAP. I'm pretty sure that the firewall rule not sticking > > could be due to this, too. It seems Ventura became stricter again... Not just Ventura, its happening in Monterey too! dmw010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl Thanks a lot MrC! I think you're on the right path: while I do sign the installer, I never signed the new Perl binary, or the PrefPane! I'll look into this ASAP. I'm pretty sure that the firewall rule not sticking could be due to this, too. It seems Ventura became stricter again... ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
dmw010 wrote: > OK, thanks, I did that and granted full disk access to that version of > perl and rebooted. Still got the perl access request, allowed it, and > LMS still can't see the Boom players. Sorry, I was replying mostly to the other user who had the issue with the prompt for allowing LMS to access Removable Volumes. It wasn't clear to me if you had this issue also. Your issue, if I'm reading correctly, seems to be related to Firewall being enabled. I don't use it, so I don't know what the issue is here. > > Does it matter whether I remove bash and the other versions of perl from > full disk access? Right now I've got 4 versions of perl with full disk > access. I haven't worked out all the details for what is now required. Here is what I believe is true: 1. When you run the LMS package installer, it is the owner, and it is the app that requests permissions. You'll see Installer in Privacy & Security > Files and Folders, and it should have listed the locations where your media is located (e.g. Documents, Network Volumes, Removable Volumes). 2. After installation is done, if you start via the Settings panel, then launchd inititiates launching LMS via perl and the perl script slimserver.pl. This is where the codesign workaround helps. From my testing, once I've performed the ad-hoc codesign'ing as mentioned earlier, I only received the permissions request one time, and never again regardless of restarting LMS. 3. When starting slimserver.pl via command line, enabling Network and/or Removable Volumes for the perl contained in the LMS package is sufficient. 4. The requirement for bash / sh I believe are/were for performing updates via LMS, or perhaps starting from the command line (prior to Ventura?). I have not checked on this fully in my tests today. I did just do an update via LMS's web interface and it worked. I do not have sh or bash added to Privacy & Security > Files and Folders or Privacy & Security > Full Disk Access. Here is what I have configured: 39098 39099 The multiple versions of perl you have are likely no longer necessary in those lists. You only need the perl contained in the LMS package to be included, since LMS now uses its own self-contained perl binary (and modules). +---+ |Filename: Full Disk Access.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39099| +---+ MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
MrC wrote: > Open its parent folder in Finder (Go > Go to Folder...) and then drag > the binary to the Open dialog. OK, thanks, I did that and granted full disk access to that version of perl and rebooted. Still got the perl access request, allowed it, and LMS still can't see the Boom players. Does it matter whether I remove bash and the other versions of perl from full disk access? Right now I've got 4 versions of perl with full disk access. dmw010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
dmw010 wrote: > The file at /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane is greyed out, > I can't select it or drill down further. Open its parent folder in Finder (Go > Go to Folder...) and then drag the binary to the Open dialog. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
MrC wrote: > /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl The file at /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane is greyed out, I can't select it or drill down further. dmw010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
Thanks - Ill reinstall 8.3 soon and give that a try! bgalizio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73142 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
MrC wrote: > > I'm not sure the reason why this is no longer working, and I didn't find > a workaround. Ventura's GateKeeper has more restrictions. > Ok, here's a workaround. You need to ad-hoc codesign the important binaries, since the distribution is not signed by Michael or Logitech. Stop LMS and run the following in Terminal: Code: codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane codesign -s - /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl Start LMS via Settings. You'll get the request persmission dialog once now, and then it should remain. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
bgalizio wrote: > I just updated to 8.3 in advance of the new Mac OS update (I have an M1 > iMac). I can add this version of perl to the full disk access, to allow > access on my external hard drive. But the access does not stay > permanent. Any help? It seems that stating via the System Settings > Logitech Media Server will always re-request Network Volume or Removable Volume access.But starting via command line does not, and allowing Network Volume or Removable Volume access from perl remains activated: Code: /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl So this is indicating that macOS is treating startup via Settings differently. The parent process of the command line above is your shell, and those commands inherit their access from the launching terminal app (e.g. Terminal, iTerm2). But the parent process ID of the LMS settings panel is 1 (this is launchd), and the ultimately invoked slimserver.pl command gains its access from the System Settings > Logitech Media Server binary. I'm not sure the reason why this is no longer working, and I didn't find a workaround. Ventura's GateKeeper has more restrictions. So perhaps until this is discovered, just launch LMS via the command line, as in : Code: /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl & MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
MrC wrote: > /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl I just updated to 8.3 in advance of the new Mac update (M1 iMac). I can add this version of perl to the full disk access, to allow access on my external hard drive. But the access does not stay permanent. Any help? bgalizio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73142 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
dmw010 wrote: > Yes, firewall is enabled. Where is the new Perl located? Ive > previously granted full access to bash and two other versions of Perl. /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/perl/bin/perl MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
mherger wrote: > > Ugh, this started happening again a few days ago, getting the Perl > > access message every time I restart my Mac, and LMS canât see either > of > > my Boom players. Iâm running LMS 8.3 and have not upgraded to MacOS > > Ventura yet. Iâve tried multiple reboots of my Mac as well as the > Booms. > > Do you have the firewall enabled? LMS might be using the new Perl now, > which needs to be granted access, too. Yes, firewall is enabled. Where is the new Perl located? Ive previously granted full access to bash and two other versions of Perl. dmw010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
Ugh, this started happening again a few days ago, getting the Perl access message every time I restart my Mac, and LMS can’t see either of my Boom players. I’m running LMS 8.3 and have not upgraded to MacOS Ventura yet. I’ve tried multiple reboots of my Mac as well as the Booms. Do you have the firewall enabled? LMS might be using the new Perl now, which needs to be granted access, too. ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
dmw010 wrote: > Just installed today's new version of LMS and my Booms were able to > connect again! Still got a perl connection permission request (which I > allowed) when I restarted my Mac, but did not get subsequent requests > when I opened the LMS preference pane. Thank you! Ugh, this started happening again a few days ago, getting the Perl access message every time I restart my Mac, and LMS cant see either of my Boom players. Im running LMS 8.3 and have not upgraded to MacOS Ventura yet. Ive tried multiple reboots of my Mac as well as the Booms. dmw010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Most recent MacOS update broke LMS?
Just installed today's new version of LMS and my Booms were able to connect again! Still got a perl connection permission request (which I allowed) when I restarted my Mac, but did not get subsequent requests when I opened the LMS preference pane. Thank you! dmw010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116791 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
