Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-30 Thread drmatt


That was going to be my next question, why the hell would you use a web
browser for playback control anyway...


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-30 Thread Cut-Throat


bpa wrote: 
> By setup I mean something to do with network, firewall, security
> measures and how TV is connected to your network and how your LMS host
> is connected to your network.
> I am only throwing out possibilities. If you want to give up, do so. 
> If TV emulator works OK on a PC then you know it is definitely related
> to how TV is networked to LMS host.
> 
> Link to how to set up TV emulator on PC - 
> https://developer.samsung.com/tv/develop/getting-started/setting-up-sdk/installing-tv-sdk

Yup, I'll give up as this was not for me, but a Luddite that I was
trying to help, that insisted on using his TV and its Remote to control
LMS instead, of a PC, Laptop, Tablet or PhoneNot my Problem...



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-30 Thread drmatt


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> It's not 'my setup'.. I am using the latest LMS and Samsung Update
> to my TV... Not much 'I' can do.My point above was exactly that it *was* my 
> setup that created similar
symptoms, so don't assume.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread Michael Herger
Couldn't this just be a cache issue? Your browser is serving up a mix of 
old and new content which don't go together well?


Some how I can't even get my Samsung to accept the URL. Even typing the 
full http://myserver:9000 URL it would trigger a Google search?!?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread bpa


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> It's not 'my setup'.. I am using the latest LMS and Samsung Update
> to my TV... Not much 'I' can do.
By setup I mean something to do with network, firewall, security
measures and how TV is connected to your network and how your LMS host
is connected to your network.
I am only throwing out possibilities. If you want to give up, do so. 
If TV emulator works OK on a PC then you know it is definitely related
to how TV is networked to LMS host.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread Paul Webster


If you can find out what in the LMS supplied HTML/JavaScript is causing
the problem for the reduced capability browser that is in the TV then it
might be possible for someone to change the LMS code.
Running it through an emulator that shows the same issues as your TV
appears to have would then make it easier for someone to diagnose and
resolve.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread Cut-Throat


bpa wrote: 
> The emulator may show you what is going wrong and it may be a simple fix
> to your setup 

It's not 'my setup'.. I am using the latest LMS and Samsung Update
to my TV... Not much 'I' can do.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread bpa


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> My New Samsung TV scored 437 out of 555 . My older TV's Browser used
> to work with LMS Web Control
Most of the scoring is html5 compatibility which is not used by LMS
WebUI (e.g Websockets , WebRTC, streaming audio ).

I suspect something is failing to load verey early in page setup - a
tedious way would be to use wireshark to capture network traffic and
compare your TV browser loading against a PC browser loading.  I'm not
sure whether LMS network.http logging will capture the http request from
the TV.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread bpa


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Correct me if I'm wrong here, but about the only thing I can do with my
> Smart TV Browser is make Sure I am on the Latest Release of the Software
> downloads of the TV? Which I have and I am on the latest release.

The emulator may show you what is going wrong and it may be a simple fix
to your setup or perhaps for Mherger to LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread Cut-Throat


bpa wrote: 
> You may be able to debug the issues using Smart TV emulator see
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39905872/how-can-i-troubleshoot-my-website-on-a-smart-tv-browser
> 
> 

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but about the only thing I can do with my
Smart TV Browser is make Sure I am on the Latest Release of the Software
downloads of the TV? Which I have and I am on the latest release.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread Cut-Throat


bpa wrote: 
> You may be able to debug the issues using Smart TV emulator see
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39905872/how-can-i-troubleshoot-my-website-on-a-smart-tv-browser
> 
> edit:
> 
> By using http://html5test.com - my panasonic browser only scored 163 out
> of 555 - so I'm guessingh the issues is nto html4 but Javascript  or
> some sort of networking issue.

My New Samsung TV scored 437 out of 555 . My older TV's Browser used
to work with LMS Web Control



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread bpa


You may be able to debug the issues  see
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39905872/how-can-i-troubleshoot-my-website-on-a-smart-tv-browser



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread bpa


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Which Version of LMS are you running? -- BTW -- It used to work on my TV
> on older LMS releases.
7.9.x of about February March.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread Cut-Throat


bpa wrote: 
> Works OK on my panasonic TV web browser.

Which Version of LMS are you running? -- BTW -- It used to work on my TV
on older LMS releases.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread bpa


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> I have never had trouble on a PC Web Browser Try it on TV's Web
> Browser and I'm betting it will no longer work.

Works OK on my panasonic TV web browser.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-29 Thread bakker_be


You might find this skin more to your liking:
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-28 Thread Cut-Throat


drmatt wrote: 
> I have had vaguely similar issues in the past but put them down to my
> (at the time) broken DNS causing issues for the JavaScript bits of the
> site that work out what capabilities your browser has. Now I've sorted
> out DNS and am using an internal address and IP it's been fine. (This
> wasn't on a smart TV, this was on a normal web browser on a pc.)
> 
> 
> -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-

I have never had trouble on a PC Web Browser Try it on TV's Web
Browser and I'm betting it will no longer work.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-28 Thread drmatt


I have had vaguely similar issues in the past but put them down to my
(at the time) broken DNS causing issues for the JavaScript bits of the
site that work out what capabilities your browser has. Now I've sorted
out DNS and am using an internal address and IP it's been fine. (This
wasn't on a smart TV, this was on a normal web browser on a pc.)


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-28 Thread Cut-Throat

After some extended searching on this forum I did find someone else with
this problem And it was suggested to use the Classic skin to see if
it works and it did. as in yourserver IP/Classic  (Which I don't care
for) --- I know that I have been able to bring up the new skin a few
years ago, so something has changed.



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Smart TV's Web Browser not able to load LMS Web Control Page ........................

2018-05-28 Thread Cut-Throat

I have a few Samsung Smart TVs with Web Browser and when I pull up the
IP address of the LMS running on my network, the screen turns the LMS
Green and indicates that "Logitech Media Server is Loading" but the icon
keeps spinning and it never loads... This happens on the 2 TVs I have
tried on my network. Anyone know why it won't load?



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