Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
mherger wrote: > > HOWEVER, I see that a large portion of my album art is no longer > showing > > Artwork import always had been considered experimental. Doesn't it even > > need to be enabled explicitely? It was based on an AppleScript calling > iTunes. Well, lack of iTunes this now obviously fails... "Extract Artwork (experimental)" is NOT checked in my LMS iTunes tab, and as far as I know, has never been. So this is not the function I'm talking about. Yet I've had some art on my SB Touch for many years. Seems like it's less than previous after my recent mucking with LMS updates, SB firmware update, exporting xml and rescanning activities. Below is a screen shot of the most recent media scan results. The coverart files are those just the embedded art inside tracks? 1656 seems like too few out of my 25000+ tracks. I'd guess that inside Music.app(iTunes) I have about 85% of my albums containing art. Not sure which of those are "embedded" though, versus just inside Music.app. I think my next step will be to test some of the Dougs scripts for Music and try to learn a little bit more about how my art is being stored. I'm hoping there is a way to Force-embed art into music files for any that aren't already embedded. My expectation is that after doing that, I would see more artwork show up on SB Touch.Yes? 36615 +---+ |Filename: Screen Shot 2022-01-02 at 2.00.22 PMEST.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36615| +---+ pricebrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
mherger wrote: > > HOWEVER, I see that a large portion of my album art is no longer > showing > > Artwork import always had been considered experimental. Doesn't it even > > need to be enabled explicitely? It was based on an AppleScript calling > iTunes. Well, lack of iTunes this now obviously fails... Sure. Weird that the art was BETTER previously though. Again, not a dealbreaker but would be nice to get the art to display. I keep coming back to what is the value of continuing to use the SB Touch since I'm mostly in the Apple ecosystem anyway. An old iPad or iPhone sitting next to my stereo might be a better option at some point. Sad, but sometimes you just have to move on. Noticed another problem after doing all these updates and finally getting my Recently added music to show up on SB Touch: I now have* jittery playback with drops* on the iTunes-purchased music. Not sure why. Never had issues before. Any music (including recent) that was ripped from CD continues to play fine (FYI I rip to Apple Lossless.) Looking at one purchased track, as an example, shows in Get Info in Music.app the following: kind Purchased AAC audio file, bit rate 256 kbps, sample 44.100 kHz, profile Low Complexity, file extension is .m4a. Not sure if any of this info is useful. What do you think is happening? My SB Touch is connected via WiFi about ten feet from the AP, never had any network issues previously and the SB Touch network diagnostic test runs at 100%, no issues at all. pricebrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cant see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
HOWEVER, I see that a large portion of my album art is no longer showing Artwork import always had been considered experimental. Doesn't it even need to be enabled explicitely? It was based on an AppleScript calling iTunes. Well, lack of iTunes this now obviously fails... ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
OK, I think I may have it working (although there's a new problem.) When you said Paul Webster wrote: > From the source code > https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/a0768b997a0e2189cacb9c6a88c1056c7bd1d1aa/Slim/Plugin/iTunes/Common.pm#L102 > LMS looks for different names and takes the first it finds from > iTunes Music Library.xml > iTunes Library.xml did you mean LMS looks for these library xml file names IN THAT SPECIFIC ORDER? Because from my testing it would appear that it takes the first one it finds in alphabetical order. A few more iterations I tried and when I named the exported file *"iTunes Library.xml"* without the other one present, it seemed to work. I also blanked out the path to Playlist folder in LMS Library tab (still leaving the Use iTunes box checked.) One wrinkle and one new problem: as mentioned I was interested in my "Recently Added" playlist. This is a built-in playlist in iTunes and also in Music.app. That text appears in the exported xml file (although I can't tell much more than that about it.) However, after the rescan that DID work, there is no Recently Added playlist anymore! LMS must not be able to use the new format. Fortunately I had also made my own "smart playlist" in Music.app called RecentlyAddedSmart which just shows the more recently added 100 songs. That shows up in LMS and all the new stuff I added recently was in there. I checked a few other playlists I had updated recently and those changes are reflected in LMS. So that problem more or less resolved. HOWEVER, I see that a large portion of my album art is no longer showing in LMS. It appears in Music.app, but in LMS there seems to be no rhyme or reason why some are showing and others are not. This isn't as big a concern for me, although it would be nice if SB Touch showed a nice album cover instead of blank. I will work on it, but that's for another thread. I can say right off the bat that music I recently purchased via iTunes and downloaded, shows album art in Music.app but doesn't show in LMS.That is not very surprising. But I also see lots of old albums that I've been listening to through LMS for years, which I know showed art on my SB Touch, the art is missing. I will take a look at Doug's scripts as I recall that's an area where lots of people had issues and there are some fixes.Bliss was another one I saw. If anyone has experience/tips along these lines, I'd love to hear from you! pricebrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
Paul Webster wrote: > They are text files ... so you could open them up and take a look > inside. > > From the source code > https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/a0768b997a0e2189cacb9c6a88c1056c7bd1d1aa/Slim/Plugin/iTunes/Common.pm#L102 > LMS looks for different names and takes the first it finds from > iTunes Music Library.xml > iTunes Library.xml Yes they are text files. I can open them and take a look but what am I looking for? I can't determine much by looking at them; for example whether the Recently Added contains my most recently added music. Yes I can find a dict section with "Recently Added" but the items there are coded with IDs that mean nothing to me. So far I have tried naming the exported file "iTunes Music Library.xml" and then used Clear Library and Rescan Everything in the LMS Advanced tab (I am using version 8.2.0 r1627922070 by the way.) Checking the Web Player I can then look at my Recently Added playlist as LMS sees it, and none of the new stuff is there. I tried entering the Playlist Folder path manually in the Library tab (still leaving the Use iTunes box checked) and rescanned everything again. No change. I then tried making a copy of the exported xml and calling it "iTunes Library.xml" and rescanning again. No change. Do I need to uncheck the Use iTunes box? If so, what exactly am I supposed to put in the Music and Playlist paths, for a "normal" iTunes/Music.app setup on my Mac? It feels like I'm just flailing here. It's been more than a year, I had hoped that someone else already figured all this out. I can't be the only one with a plain vanilla setup on Mac to "use iTunes". I guess what would be ideal is for LMS to gain a "use Music.app" checkbox! Since I don't expect that to happen, I am hoping I can find some guidance on how to manually configure LMS for the equivalent functionality to a "use Music.app" checkbox. pricebrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
They are text files ... so you could open them up and take a look inside. >From the source code https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/a0768b997a0e2189cacb9c6a88c1056c7bd1d1aa/Slim/Plugin/iTunes/Common.pm#L102 LMS looks for different names and takes the first it finds from iTunes Music Library.xml iTunes Library.xml Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
Paul Webster wrote: > Make sure you save your old and working XML file ... then try an manual > export and see if it works. > https://djtechtools.com/2019/10/10/update-to-catalina-heres-how-to-manually-export-your-music-app-as-xml/ > > If a manual export does not give you something that works then > automating that simple export is not going to help much. > > If the export function does give something that is somewhat close to the > old iTunes format then it might be possible for someone with a Mac to > write a script to reprocess it to make it work ... or someone else could > write some Perl and put it in LMS to import that revised format. > > Someone with a Mac and some technical skills has to come along. Sadly that will not be me (my skills in this area became stale years ago.)I did the XML export but the djtechtools instructions above appear to be from 2019... are they still accurate? For example they say to rename the exported file iTunes Music Library.xml and place it in the //iTunes folder. Since my Mac goes back more than a decade, I have various library xml files in this folder, but the newest from mid-2021 is named just "iTunes Library.xml" The existing file there named "iTunes Music Library.xml" is dated 2013. It seems I need slightly more detailed instructions or a confirmation on what LMS is looking for when the "use iTunes" checkbox is checked (or confirmation that it doesn't matter if pointing to the file directly.) pricebrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
Make sure you save your old and working XML file ... then try an manual export and see if it works. https://djtechtools.com/2019/10/10/update-to-catalina-heres-how-to-manually-export-your-music-app-as-xml/ If a manual export does not give you something that works then automating that simple export is not going to help much. If the export function does give something that is somewhat close to the old iTunes format then it might be possible for someone with a Mac to write a script to reprocess it to make it work ... or someone else could write some Perl and put it in LMS to import that revised format. Someone with a Mac and some technical skills has to come along. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
I am wondering if there are any Add-In's for the iTunes replacement Music.app that can automate the XML export? I've been searching the forums for about a month and there's a lot of noise relative to signal, regarding this basic topic of iTunes integration being dead. Interesting, I didn't even notice when I first upgraded to Big Sur because Apple puts some symlinks or something in the Finder to the iTunes information, which is basically static at that point (similar to what they did with iPhoto migration to Photos.) So LMS thinks nothing is different and keeps looking at the old iTunes info. So all my playlists were still working on my SB Touch... I only noticed when I ripped a few rare CDs I had recently picked up on eBay, and they did not show up in Recently Added on the SB Touch, though they were in Recently Added in Music app. I have a LOT (15 years worth?) of curated playlists in iTunes and now Music.app. I'd like not to lose the ability to access them from my SB Touch. At some point if this all becomes too difficult I suppose I will just take an old iPhone and somehow connect it to my stereo, and just use the Apple Home Sharing function to stream music from my Mac (which would be sad - I've always loved the LMS community and great functionality, as well as the quality of the SB Touch.) pricebrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
Paul Webster wrote: > Did you try the scripting method that I referred you to before? > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot=996937=1#post996937 No, I read them but really couldn't understand what they were doing. I do check back as I have to believe some talented coders who are mac users will provide the automation. In the interim, recreating the xml file and either re-scanning or letting the scheduled scan take place will suffice. leeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
Did you try the scripting method that I referred you to before? https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot=996937=1#post996937 Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
whitman wrote: > Thanks for the help, Michael, always appreciated. I'm afraid I gave up. > My main need for access to a playlist is to get to the BBC radio shows I > download to Muisc (aka iTunes) via Get iPlayer Automator. On reflection, > I can get to the relevant playlist relatively easily through my Apple TV > boxand leave my Squeezeboxes to their more important tasks, like > streaming radio etc and my Music/iTunes library. Works for me. Hi, I was wondering if you ever got this sorted. I had the same issue but thanks to some senior posters here I was able to get it to work manually. In the new Music app go to file and export Library. That will create an XML file that LMS uses. Place it in a library and in the LMS interface server settings go to the iTunes tab and where it gives you the option to tell LMS where the xml file location is enter the path to the newly created file. Make sure you include the entire path including the library.xml file itself. I also ticked off the use iTunes but i'm not sure if that's needed or not. I also followed the advice of others and gave full disk access to perl, bash and perl 5.18. After re-scanning all my old playlists appeared again but here is the catch. Every time you change a playlist you will have to repeat the xml creation and the rescan. Not terrible but something to remember unless you can figure out the scripting of the xml creation. I couldn't,lol. leeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
Thanks for the help, Michael, always appreciated. I'm afraid I gave up. My main need for access to a playlist is to get to the BBC radio shows I download to Muisc (aka iTunes) via Get iPlayer Automator. On reflection, I can get to the relevant playlist relatively easily through my Apple TV boxand leave my Squeezeboxes to their more important tasks, like streaming radio etc and my Music/iTunes library. Works for me. whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
I think this is the thread you're referring to? https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037-LMS-on-MacOS-10-15-quot-Catalina-quot=whitman+catalina But I can't work out from the 90-odd posts what that is saying to do. whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
mherger wrote: > > Michael, I did have a search before I posted and couldn't see > anything. > > But are you saying there's no solution? > > I think there's a workaround like manually triggering the XML export or > > something. > > -- > > Michael OK Michael, thanks for the info. whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
mherger wrote: > > I copied over my existing iTunes library from Mojave OS to the Music > app > > on a new Mac mini running Catalina OS (10.15.5). > > In Catalina Apple cut off the automatic XML export of the library. > Unfortunately that's what LMS is relying on. > > There are threads about this elsewhere in this forum. > > -- > > Michael Michael, I did have a search before I posted and couldn't see anything. But are you saying there's no solution? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Can�t see older playlists in MacOS Catalina Music on LMS
I copied over my existing iTunes library from Mojave OS to the Music app on a new Mac mini running Catalina OS (10.15.5). I installed LMS (7.9.3), too, and thats running well. However, I cant see in LMS my older playlists that are in Catalinas new Music app. The only one showing is a new one made since the Catalina installation. I made a new test playlist in Music to see where it showed up: the file that changed in Music app is called Music Library.musiclibrary. When I navigate to that in LMS, it reads empty. Any suggestions for accessing my older playlists in LMS? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112369 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
