Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
mherger wrote: > What LMS version are you using? This is working as expected here, > running the latest code available. > > - added album > - set shuffle on > -> when on the second to last track of the album, shuffle was turned > off, shuffled order retained, new tracks added (LastMix local tracks > only). > > -- > > Michael For some reason I was still on an older version. I have the auto-download updates feature on but had not actually been notified of an update in some time it seems... I just downloaded the latest nightly and indeed this is fixed. Sorry for the false alarm. Thanks for the quick response as always! BreakTheStatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
I recently was having problems with MusicIP (unrelated to DSTM) and switched to LastMix and noticed something that I thought was a problem with MusicIP but apparently seems to be what was discussed here. If I have a playlist with shuffle on, once it gets to the end, it adds songs and reshuffles the playlist, so many of the previously played songs are now queued up again (lots of repeats). I see that the last comment here from November says that it was fixed, but I'm still seeing this behavior. According that post, I was expecting to see the shuffle turn off after the last song plays and the newly added songs from DSTM at the bottom of the playlist. However, it seems to be the old functionality described above (added songs, entire list reshuffled w/ first added song as the top item). Has there been a regression or possibly intentional reversion on this front? Or was this fix source-specific (e.g. just for MusicIP, Song Mix, etc...)? I'm currently seeing this behavior still w/ the Last.fm mix source as well as Song Mix. Any info would be great. BreakTheStatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
I tried the update and it works really good. So when the que reaches the penultimate song (correct English???), it adds some songs with DSTM and shuffle gets disabled. But playlist stays the same. Great stuff! Thanks for fixing this issue so quickly! CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
mherger wrote: > Please give the latest build another try. I implemented a helper which > actually greatly simplified and improved another use case... Thanks for > > the inspiration! > > -- > > Michael I will try tomorrow evening! CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
mherger wrote: > Please give the latest build another try. I implemented a helper which > actually greatly simplified and improved another use case... Thanks for > the inspiration! > > -- > > MichaelThat works. Took me a while to realise it only works for DSTM and not when simply adding a track to the playlist. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
Please give the latest build another try. I implemented a helper which actually greatly simplified and improved another use case... Thanks for the inspiration! -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
Hi Guy, Both Foobar and, e.g. Clementine, have a "one-time shuffle" option that is separate from "play randomized". The first simply randomizes the playlist a single time and any subsequent additions to the playlist are not random. The second randomly plays tracks as play progresses. In fact, the first actually modifies the playlist order to be randomized while the second does not, the current track randomly shifts throughout the playlist. Aha! That makes much more sense indeed. But I see the usefullness of such a feature, though I've no idea how it could be implemented. Me either... DSTM would have to replace the currently playing list with its shuffled self under the hood, without interrupting the playback. I'm not sure this can be done with either new code in the queue management outside DSTM, or with some ugly hacks in DSTM reaching deep in to the queue management. But it's probably worth some thought. Thanks! -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
Michael, Hope you are well! Both Foobar and, e.g. Clementine, have a "one-time shuffle" option that is separate from "play randomized". The first simply randomizes the playlist a single time and any subsequent additions to the playlist are not random. The second randomly plays tracks as play progresses. In fact, the first actually modifies the playlist order to be randomized while the second does not, the current track randomly shifts throughout the playlist. LMS does not do either of thse, as you know, because it randomizes the playlist and then continually re-randomizes the playlist for newly added tracks. But I see the usefullness of such a feature, though I've no idea how it could be implemented. For example, I listen to a lot of classical music. I can, in Clementine, add single movement works to a playlist, shuffle them, then add multi-movement works to the same playlist and they are not subsequently shuffled. That's one usecase though perhaps not compelling enough (given LMS developer resources :-) to implement if it's even possible. Regards! On 11/14/2018 9:44 AM, Michael Herger wrote: This is how Foobar2000 can do it. 25972 It would really be a good feature to add these options. And preferably CLI controllable. Wow. And my text console can sort lines. What exactly are you trying to explain with this? You can shuffle and de-shuffle the playlist. You just cannot have it in shuffled state and add stuff in sorted order. It's either shuffled or not. -- “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of human existence.” ― Aristotle ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
This is how Foobar2000 can do it. 25972 It would really be a good feature to add these options. And preferably CLI controllable. Wow. And my text console can sort lines. What exactly are you trying to explain with this? You can shuffle and de-shuffle the playlist. You just cannot have it in shuffled state and add stuff in sorted order. It's either shuffled or not. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
mherger wrote: > >> If DSTM switched shuffle off when it kicks in that would resolve the > >> issue wouldnât it? > > > > But as soon shuffle turns off the playlist gets shuffled back to the > > original order and starts playing from the beginning > > Heh... I'm surprised this issue hasn't come up before!... TBH: I don't > know yet how this could be resolved in a satisfying way. As DSTM starts > adding tracks before the list has fully been played, un-shuffling when > the first tracks are being added would change the order of the last > items being played from the original list. I'll have to think about > this. > > -- > > Michael This is how Foobar2000 can do it. 25972 It would really be a good feature to add these options. And preferably CLI controllable. +---+ |Filename: Foobar.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25972| +---+ CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
If DSTM switched shuffle off when it kicks in that would resolve the issue wouldn’t it? But as soon shuffle turns off the playlist gets shuffled back to the original order and starts playing from the beginning Heh... I'm surprised this issue hasn't come up before!... TBH: I don't know yet how this could be resolved in a satisfying way. As DSTM starts adding tracks before the list has fully been played, un-shuffling when the first tracks are being added would change the order of the last items being played from the original list. I'll have to think about this. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
If DSTM switched shuffle off when it kicks in that would resolve the issue wouldnt it? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
I would prefer, that the list stays shuffled of course ;) That's not an option, unfortunately. Why would you even want this? Once played, do you still are about the order in which stuff was played? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
mherger wrote: > >> Disabling shuffle after the playlist has been shuffled for the first > >> time would prevent this. > > That's what I was considering doing, too. > > > Yes, but the songs get placed in the original order again. > > That's the compromise you'd have to live with. The limitation here is > that LMS does not actually shuffle the playlist, but only creates an > additional index, taking precedence over the original order. I can't > tell LMS "please keep the shuffled order for the old stuff only, but > ignore the new stuff". It's either or. What would you prefer? > > -- > > Michael I would prefer, that the list stays shuffled of course ;) Or maybe it is possible to make an option to randomise a playlist when it is (already) loaded? And even more preferably a way to do it in the command line. CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
Disabling shuffle after the playlist has been shuffled for the first time would prevent this. That's what I was considering doing, too. Yes, but the songs get placed in the original order again. That's the compromise you'd have to live with. The limitation here is that LMS does not actually shuffle the playlist, but only creates an additional index, taking precedence over the original order. I can't tell LMS "please keep the shuffled order for the old stuff only, but ignore the new stuff". It's either or. What would you prefer? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
CypherMK wrote: > Yes, but the songs get placed in the original order again.Ahh OK, I didn't > try it I thought they would stay shuffled. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
slartibartfast wrote: > Disabling shuffle after the playlist has been shuffled for the first > time would prevent this. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Yes, but the songs get placed in the original order again. CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
slartibartfast wrote: > This behaviour also occurs if a song is added to the playlist manually > when shuffle is enabled. The playlist reshuffles every time a song is > added. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using TapatalkDisabling shuffle after the playlist has > been shuffled for the first time would prevent this. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
mherger wrote: > > Can this behaviour be changed, so the added songs get put at the end > of > > the list and the list keeps playing as it was? > > Could you please try with a different mixer to see whether the same > behaviour would apply with or without MusicIP? > > -- > > MichaelThis behaviour also occurs if a song is added to the playlist manually when shuffle is enabled. The playlist reshuffles every time a song is added. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
mherger wrote: > > Can this behaviour be changed, so the added songs get put at the end > of > > the list and the list keeps playing as it was? > > Could you please try with a different mixer to see whether the same > behaviour would apply with or without MusicIP? > > -- > > Michael I also tried lastmix (local files) and it behaves the same. CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
Can this behaviour be changed, so the added songs get put at the end of the list and the list keeps playing as it was? Could you please try with a different mixer to see whether the same behaviour would apply with or without MusicIP? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
I'm using musicip CypherMK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffled playlist and don't stop the music
I tried to play a playlist with shuffle enabled. All songs get properly shuffled. Normally, at the end of a playlist, don't stop music will add some songs. I use musicip for this. But with a shuffled playlist, it will add some songs, but it will shuffle the playlist again. Making the now playing song first in the list. Are you using plain MIP or Sugarcube? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
