Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri]

21.11.2016 14:08, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/squidvideosbooster/

This is serious solution which is works. If you have enough money.


what do you guys think about this? is it the same with 
https://cachevideos.com/?


thanks


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, --Ahmad-- <ahmed.za...@netstream.ps 
<mailto:ahmed.za...@netstream.ps>> wrote:


thanks yuri you have been great guy and still .

kind regards



On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com
<mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm not about it.

There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to
get a turnkey solution without doing anything.

Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or
to show that anything is possible in principle. The rest I do
myself. If I do not - then I buy it.

At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I
think that should be enough, is not it?


20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет:

lol …. i hope you don’t  spent much time for helping people here
on the mailing list for free .

thanks again for your time .



On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com
<mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is
just what
you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the
video. Do not
forget about the volume of the video itself.

As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under
HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that
Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers
and pragmas.

In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the
majority of
ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give
it. These
solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no
reason to
give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free.

20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:

you are correct .

but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to
the store id .
also it support couple of websites without  that much effort .

what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the
development level … i talk about the normal squid users .

cheers


On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com
<mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been
invented.
And it is called the invention Store-ID.

You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I
do not see
any problem.

20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:

hey guys .

as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past
 proved its strength with http other websites for video .

((lets put youtube away now .))


why don’t we see development on it to support  the video
contents of websites that support http  like daily motion
and its sisters websites .


and why don’t we use certificates once development for
youtube & Facebook ???


i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates
and it was great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2
solution in 1 product ?


i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is
better than inventing solution from scratch .

thanks again squid users Guys


On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru
<elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>> wrote:

The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos
mentioned it might not have been updated\upgraded to match
today state of YouTube and google videos.
I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a
trial period and they have a forums which can be used to
get more details.
I believe they still have something really good in their
solution since it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts.

Eliezer


Eliezer Croitoru
Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>


-Original Message-
From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il
<mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>>;
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
    <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org>
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?



20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:

Yuri,

I am not the most experienced in life and in security but
I can say it's possible and I am not selling it
I released the windows update cacher which works in enough
places(just by seeing how many downloaded it..).
The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even
if you know something 

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Eliezer Croitoru]

They have 30 days of trial….

Try and see how it works for you.

I believe that it might work for many of the listed sites.

If it is being maintained weekly then it would work for other sites also.

 

Eliezer

 



 <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Eliezer Croitoru
Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il



 

From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] On Behalf 
Of Bakhtiyor Homidov
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:09
To: --Ahmad-- <ahmed.za...@netstream.ps>
Cc: Squid Users <squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org>
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/squidvideosbooster/

what do you guys think about this? is it the same with https://cachevideos.com/?

 

thanks

 

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, --Ahmad-- <ahmed.za...@netstream.ps 
<mailto:ahmed.za...@netstream.ps> > wrote:

thanks yuri you have been great guy and still .

 

kind regards 

 

 

On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I'm not about it. 

There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to get a turnkey 
solution without doing anything.

Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or to show that 
anything is possible in principle. The rest I do myself. If I do not - then I 
buy it.

At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I think that should 
be enough, is not it?

 

20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет:

lol …. i hope you don’t  spent much time for helping people here on the mailing 
list for free .

 

thanks again for your time .

 

 

On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is just what
you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the video. Do not
forget about the volume of the video itself.

As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under
HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that
Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers and pragmas.

In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the majority of
ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give it. These
solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no reason to
give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free.

20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:



you are correct .

but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store id .
also it support couple of websites without  that much effort .

what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i talk 
about the normal squid users .

cheers 




On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.
And it is called the invention Store-ID.

You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see
any problem.

20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:



hey guys .

as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past  proved its 
strength with http other websites for video .

((lets put youtube away now .))


why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents of websites 
that support http  like daily motion and its sisters websites .


and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook ???


i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was great 
solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?


i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than 
inventing solution from scratch .

thanks again squid users Guys 




On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il 
<mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il> > wrote:

The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not have 
been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google videos.
I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and they 
have a forums which can be used to get more details.
I believe they still have something really good in their solution since it's 
not based on StoreID but on other concepts.

Eliezer


Eliezer Croitoru
Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il> 


-Original Message-
From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il> >; 
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> 
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?



20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:



Yuri,

I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
p

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Bakhtiyor Homidov]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/squidvideosbooster/

what do you guys think about this? is it the same with
https://cachevideos.com/?

thanks


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, --Ahmad-- <ahmed.za...@netstream.ps> wrote:

> thanks yuri you have been great guy and still .
>
> kind regards
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not about it.
>
> There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to get a
> turnkey solution without doing anything.
>
> Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or to show
> that anything is possible in principle. The rest I do myself. If I do not -
> then I buy it.
>
> At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I think that
> should be enough, is not it?
>
> 20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>
> lol …. i hope you don’t  spent much time for helping people here on the
> mailing list for free .
>
> thanks again for your time .
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is just what
> you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the video. Do not
> forget about the volume of the video itself.
>
> As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under
> HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that
> Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers and pragmas.
>
> In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the majority of
> ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give it. These
> solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no reason to
> give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free.
>
> 20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>
> you are correct .
>
> but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store
> id .
> also it support couple of websites without  that much effort .
>
> what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i
> talk about the normal squid users .
>
> cheers
>
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.
> And it is called the invention Store-ID.
>
> You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see
> any problem.
>
> 20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>
> hey guys .
>
> as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past  proved its
> strength with http other websites for video .
>
> ((lets put youtube away now .))
>
>
> why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents of
> websites that support http  like daily motion and its sisters websites .
>
>
> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook
> ???
>
>
> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was
> great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?
>
>
> i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than
> inventing solution from scratch .
>
> thanks again squid users Guys
>
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>
> wrote:
>
> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not
> have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google
> videos.
> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and
> they have a forums which can be used to get more details.
> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since
> it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts.
>
> Eliezer
>
> ----
> Eliezer Croitoru
> Linux System Administrator
> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com <yvoi...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>;
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>
>
>
> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>
> Yuri,
>
> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's
> possible and I am not selling it
> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by
> seeing how many downloaded it..).
> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know
> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should
> know about.
> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I
> would be able to understand bett

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

I'm not about it.

There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to get a
turnkey solution without doing anything.

Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or to show
that anything is possible in principle. The rest I do myself. If I do
not - then I buy it.

At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I think that
should be enough, is not it?


20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет:
> lol …. i hope you don’t  spent much time for helping people here on
> the mailing list for free .
>
> thanks again for your time .
>
>
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is just what
>> you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the video. Do not
>> forget about the volume of the video itself.
>>
>> As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under
>> HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that
>> Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers and pragmas.
>>
>> In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the majority of
>> ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give it. These
>> solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no reason to
>> give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free.
>>
>> 20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>>> you are correct .
>>>
>>> but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the
>>> store id .
>>> also it support couple of websites without  that much effort .
>>>
>>> what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development
>>> level … i talk about the normal squid users .
>>>
>>> cheers 
>>>
>>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.
>>>> And it is called the invention Store-ID.
>>>>
>>>> You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see
>>>> any problem.
>>>>
>>>> 20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>>>>> hey guys .
>>>>>
>>>>> as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past
>>>>>  proved its strength with http other websites for video .
>>>>>
>>>>> ((lets put youtube away now .))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents
>>>>> of websites that support http  like daily motion and its sisters
>>>>> websites .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube &
>>>>> Facebook ???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it
>>>>> was great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1
>>>>> product ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better
>>>>> than inventing solution from scratch .
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks again squid users Guys 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru
>>>>>> <elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it
>>>>>> might not have been updated\upgraded to match today state of
>>>>>> YouTube and google videos.
>>>>>> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial
>>>>>> period and they have a forums which can be used to get more details.
>>>>>> I believe they still have something really good in their solution
>>>>>> since it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eliezer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru
>>>>>> Linux System Administrator
>>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>>>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il <mailto:elie...@ngtech.co.il>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gm

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[--Ahmad--]

lol …. i hope you don’t  spent much time for helping people here on the mailing 
list for free .

thanks again for your time .


> On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is just what
> you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the video. Do not
> forget about the volume of the video itself.
> 
> As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under
> HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that
> Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers and pragmas.
> 
> In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the majority of
> ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give it. These
> solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no reason to
> give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free.
> 
> 20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>> you are correct .
>> 
>> but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store id .
>> also it support couple of websites without  that much effort .
>> 
>> what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i 
>> talk about the normal squid users .
>> 
>> cheers 
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.
>>> And it is called the invention Store-ID.
>>> 
>>> You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see
>>> any problem.
>>> 
>>> 20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>>>> hey guys .
>>>> 
>>>> as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past  proved its 
>>>> strength with http other websites for video .
>>>> 
>>>> ((lets put youtube away now .))
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents of 
>>>> websites that support http  like daily motion and its sisters websites .
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook 
>>>> ???
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was 
>>>> great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than 
>>>> inventing solution from scratch .
>>>> 
>>>> thanks again squid users Guys 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not 
>>>>> have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google 
>>>>> videos.
>>>>> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period 
>>>>> and they have a forums which can be used to get more details.
>>>>> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since 
>>>>> it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eliezer
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru
>>>>> Linux System Administrator
>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
>>>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; 
>>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>>>>>> Yuri,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
>>>>>> possible and I am not selling it
>>>>>> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just 
>>>>>> by seeing how many downloaded it..).
>>>>>> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know 
>>>>>> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public 
&

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[--Ahmad--]

you are correct .

but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store id .
also it support couple of websites without  that much effort .

what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i talk 
about the normal squid users .

cheers 

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.
> And it is called the invention Store-ID.
> 
> You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see
> any problem.
> 
> 20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>> hey guys .
>> 
>> as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past  proved its 
>> strength with http other websites for video .
>> 
>> ((lets put youtube away now .))
>> 
>> 
>> why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents of 
>> websites that support http  like daily motion and its sisters websites .
>> 
>> 
>> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook ???
>> 
>> 
>> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was great 
>> solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?
>> 
>> 
>> i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than 
>> inventing solution from scratch .
>> 
>> thanks again squid users Guys 
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not 
>>> have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google 
>>> videos.
>>> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and 
>>> they have a forums which can be used to get more details.
>>> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since 
>>> it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts.
>>> 
>>> Eliezer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Eliezer Croitoru
>>> Linux System Administrator
>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; 
>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>>>> Yuri,
>>>> 
>>>> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
>>>> possible and I am not selling it
>>>> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by 
>>>> seeing how many downloaded it..).
>>>> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know 
>>>> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should 
>>>> know about.
>>>> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I 
>>>> would be able to understand better what should be published and how.
>>>> Any redirections are welcomed..
>>>> 
>>>> A note:
>>>> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you 
>>>> would be able to predict couple things...
>>> I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago.
>>> Unfortunately, I had more important priorities.
>>> But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and 
>>> really works.
>>> 
>>> Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT store-ID 
>>> helper later.
>>> 
>>> However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public 
>>> domain, or obsolete, or are worthless.
>>> 
>>> And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really 
>>> worked. Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.
>>> 
>>> That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.
>>>> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file 
>>>> and replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each 
>>>> of their clients machine when they will be updated.
>>>> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID 
>>>> level of understanding networking and Computer Science.
>>>>

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.
And it is called the invention Store-ID.

You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see
any problem.

20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:
> hey guys .
>
> as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past  proved its 
> strength with http other websites for video .
>
> ((lets put youtube away now .))
>
>
> why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents of websites 
> that support http  like daily motion and its sisters websites .
>
>
> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook ???
>
>
> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was great 
> solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?
>
>
> i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than 
> inventing solution from scratch .
>
> thanks again squid users Guys 
>
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il> wrote:
>>
>> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not 
>> have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google videos.
>> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and 
>> they have a forums which can be used to get more details.
>> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since it's 
>> not based on StoreID but on other concepts.
>>
>> Eliezer
>>
>> 
>> Eliezer Croitoru
>> Linux System Administrator
>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; 
>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>
>>
>>
>> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>>> Yuri,
>>>
>>> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
>>> possible and I am not selling it
>>> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by 
>>> seeing how many downloaded it..).
>>> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know 
>>> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should 
>>> know about.
>>> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I 
>>> would be able to understand better what should be published and how.
>>> Any redirections are welcomed..
>>>
>>> A note:
>>> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you 
>>> would be able to predict couple things...
>> I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago.
>> Unfortunately, I had more important priorities.
>> But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and really 
>> works.
>>
>> Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT store-ID 
>> helper later.
>>
>> However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public 
>> domain, or obsolete, or are worthless.
>>
>> And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really 
>> worked. Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.
>>
>> That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.
>>> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file and 
>>> replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each of 
>>> their clients machine when they will be updated.
>>> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID 
>>> level of understanding networking and Computer Science.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Eliezer
>>>
>>> 
>>> Eliezer Croitoru
>>> Linux System Administrator
>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08
>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; 
>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>>
>>> I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know what 
>>> I know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are really 
>>> able to 

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[--Ahmad--]

hey guys .

as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past  proved its 
strength with http other websites for video .

((lets put youtube away now .))


why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents of websites 
that support http  like daily motion and its sisters websites .


and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook ???


i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was great 
solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?


i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than 
inventing solution from scratch .

thanks again squid users Guys 

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il> wrote:
> 
> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not 
> have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google videos.
> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and 
> they have a forums which can be used to get more details.
> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since it's 
> not based on StoreID but on other concepts.
> 
> Eliezer
> 
> 
> Eliezer Croitoru
> Linux System Administrator
> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
> 
> 
> 
> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>> Yuri,
>> 
>> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
>> possible and I am not selling it
>> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by 
>> seeing how many downloaded it..).
>> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know 
>> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should 
>> know about.
>> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I would 
>> be able to understand better what should be published and how.
>> Any redirections are welcomed..
>> 
>> A note:
>> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you would 
>> be able to predict couple things...
> I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago.
> Unfortunately, I had more important priorities.
> But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and really 
> works.
> 
> Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT store-ID 
> helper later.
> 
> However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public 
> domain, or obsolete, or are worthless.
> 
> And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really worked. 
> Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.
> 
> That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.
>> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file and 
>> replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each of 
>> their clients machine when they will be updated.
>> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID 
>> level of understanding networking and Computer Science.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Eliezer
>> 
>> 
>> Eliezer Croitoru
>> Linux System Administrator
>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08
>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; 
>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>> 
>> I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know what 
>> I know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are really 
>> able to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile devices - 
>> all without exception - is no solution in the form of open source or blob 
>> will not offer free. This is big money. As for Google, and for those who use 
>> it. Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with the way Youtube counteracts 
>> caching and close useless discussion.
>> 
>> I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not be. 
>> If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type of client 
>> (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop blah-blah-blah. I mean, 
>> if you really were a solution 

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Bakhtiyor Homidov]

thanks all you guys for your activity ;)

btw, also i noticed that about videocache written on official wiki.

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube

> A more polished, mature and expensive! version of this is available
commercially as VideoCache . *by JoshuaOSullivan*


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Garri Djavadyan  wrote:

> On 2016-11-20 03:18, Yuri Voinov wrote:
>
>> That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.
>>
>
> Yuri, first of all, your comment is outright _lie_ without justifications.
> Second, the developer has a name - Kulbir, and I believe, nationality of
> the developer is not relevant. Kulbir Saini, also wrote a book for
> beginners [1], directly referred on http://www.squid-cache.org/.
>
> --
>
> I used the product and can confirm it worked well. The product is no
> longer actively developing and the code was moved to GitHub [2]. Youtube
> support was officially dropped. Below is brief description of product's
> operations:
>
> 1. It adjusts refresh patterns to force video content caching, although
> the cached content could not be used by clients directly.
> 2. It continuously monitors for access.log to gather URLs and to count
> number of requests to the same URL.
> 3. The URL gets into the queue only if it was accessed configured number
> of times by a client.
> 4. It calculates exact location on the cache store for each URL and copies
> object directly from cache store to configured web server storage.
> 5. Next time, if it will detect request to already cached (on web server)
> object, URL rewriter redirects a client to the web server.
>
>
>
> [1] https://www.packtpub.com/squid-proxy-server-31-beginners-guide/book
> [2] https://github.com/kulbirsaini/videocache
>
>
> Garri
> ___
> squid-users mailing list
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>
___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Eliezer Croitoru]

The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not have 
been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google videos.
I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and they 
have a forums which can be used to get more details.
I believe they still have something really good in their solution since it's 
not based on StoreID but on other concepts.

Eliezer


Eliezer Croitoru
Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il


-Original Message-
From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?



20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
> Yuri,
>
> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
> possible and I am not selling it
> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by 
> seeing how many downloaded it..).
> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know 
> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should 
> know about.
> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I would 
> be able to understand better what should be published and how.
> Any redirections are welcomed..
>
> A note:
> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you would 
> be able to predict couple things...
I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago.
Unfortunately, I had more important priorities.
But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and really 
works.

Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT store-ID 
helper later.

However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public 
domain, or obsolete, or are worthless.

And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really worked. 
Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.

That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.
> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file and 
> replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each of 
> their clients machine when they will be updated.
> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID 
> level of understanding networking and Computer Science.
>
> Cheers,
> Eliezer
>
> 
> Eliezer Croitoru
> Linux System Administrator
> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08
> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; 
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>
> I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know what I 
> know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are really able 
> to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile devices - all 
> without exception - is no solution in the form of open source or blob will 
> not offer free. This is big money. As for Google, and for those who use it. 
> Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with the way Youtube counteracts 
> caching and close useless discussion.
>
> I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not be. 
> If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type of client 
> (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop blah-blah-blah. I mean, if 
> you really were a solution - you'd sold it for money. But you do not have it, 
> isn't it?
>
> Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm looking for. 
>
> For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the wiki. If 
> someone else wants to spend a year or two for new investigations - welcome.
>
> 20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>> Yuri,
>>
>> Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this?
>> I mean, what would anyone get from this?
>> Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or 
>> would you want only an open source solution?
>>
>> Eliezer
>>
>> 
>> Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Linux System 
>> Administrator
>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>>  
>>
>> From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org]
>> On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54
>> To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>
>> HTTPS

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
> Yuri,
>
> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
> possible and I am not selling it
> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by 
> seeing how many downloaded it..).
> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know 
> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should 
> know about.
> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I would 
> be able to understand better what should be published and how.
> Any redirections are welcomed..
>
> A note:
> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you would 
> be able to predict couple things...
I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago.
Unfortunately, I had more important priorities.
But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and
really works.

Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT
store-ID helper later.

However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public
domain, or obsolete, or are worthless.

And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really
worked. Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.

That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.
> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file and 
> replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each of 
> their clients machine when they will be updated.
> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID 
> level of understanding networking and Computer Science.
>
> Cheers,
> Eliezer 
>
> 
> Eliezer Croitoru
> Linux System Administrator
> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08
> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>
> I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know what I 
> know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are really able 
> to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile devices - all 
> without exception - is no solution in the form of open source or blob will 
> not offer free. This is big money. As for Google, and for those who use it. 
> Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with the way Youtube counteracts 
> caching and close useless discussion.
>
> I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not be. 
> If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type of client 
> (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop blah-blah-blah. I mean, if 
> you really were a solution - you'd sold it for money. But you do not have it, 
> isn't it?
>
> Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm looking for. 
>
> For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the wiki. If 
> someone else wants to spend a year or two for new investigations - welcome.
>
> 20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>> Yuri,
>>
>> Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this?
>> I mean, what would anyone get from this?
>> Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or 
>> would you want only an open source solution?
>>
>> Eliezer
>>
>> 
>> Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Linux System 
>> Administrator
>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>>  
>>
>> From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54
>> To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>
>> HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy 
>> certificate to the clients.
>> The problem in combating caching YT by Google.
>>
>> 19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:
>>
>>
>> 19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
>> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
>> thanks, yuri,
>>
>> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?
>>
>> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
>> This is fake.
>>
>> Only for strange definitions of "fake".
>>
>> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It 
>> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still using 
>> HTTP

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Eliezer Croitoru]

Yuri,

I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's 
possible and I am not selling it
I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by 
seeing how many downloaded it..).
The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know 
something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should know 
about.
I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I would be 
able to understand better what should be published and how.
Any redirections are welcomed..

A note:
If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you would be 
able to predict couple things...
If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file and 
replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each of their 
clients machine when they will be updated.
If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID level 
of understanding networking and Computer Science.

Cheers,
Eliezer 


Eliezer Croitoru
Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il


-Original Message-
From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08
To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know what I 
know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are really able to 
cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile devices - all without 
exception - is no solution in the form of open source or blob will not offer 
free. This is big money. As for Google, and for those who use it. Therefore, I 
suggest better acquainted with the way Youtube counteracts caching and close 
useless discussion.

I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not be. If 
you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type of client 
(Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop blah-blah-blah. I mean, if 
you really were a solution - you'd sold it for money. But you do not have it, 
isn't it?

Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm looking for. 

For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the wiki. If 
someone else wants to spend a year or two for new investigations - welcome.

20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
> Yuri,
>
> Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this?
> I mean, what would anyone get from this?
> Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or 
> would you want only an open source solution?
>
> Eliezer
>
> 
> Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Linux System 
> Administrator
> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>  
>
> From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] 
> On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54
> To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>
> HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy 
> certificate to the clients.
> The problem in combating caching YT by Google.
>
> 19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:
>
>
> 19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
> thanks, yuri,
>
> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?
>
> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
> This is fake.
>
> Only for strange definitions of "fake".
>
> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It 
> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still using 
> HTTP.
> YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time (after 
> they finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google itself 
> - can cache it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last two 
> years to learn this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies.
>
> As I explain here why:
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Disc
> ussion
>
> All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to cache.
>
>
> If you look at the features list it clearly says:
>  "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."
> HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid.
>
>
> Amos
>
> ___
> squid-users mailing list
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org>
> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>

-- 
Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.

___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know
what I know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are
really able to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile
devices - all without exception - is no solution in the form of open
source or blob will not offer free. This is big money. As for Google,
and for those who use it. Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with
the way Youtube counteracts caching and close useless discussion.

I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not
be. If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type
of client (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop
blah-blah-blah. I mean, if you really were a solution - you'd sold it
for money. But you do not have it, isn't it?

Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm looking
for. 

For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the
wiki. If someone else wants to spend a year or two for new
investigations - welcome.

20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
> Yuri,
>
> Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this?
> I mean, what would anyone get from this?
> Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or would
> you want only an open source solution?
>
> Eliezer
>
> 
> Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> 
> Linux System Administrator
> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
>  
>
> From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] On
> Behalf Of Yuri Voinov
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54
> To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>
> HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy certificate
> to the clients. 
> The problem in combating caching YT by Google.
>
> 19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:
>
>
> 19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
> thanks, yuri,
>
> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?
>
> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
> This is fake.
>
> Only for strange definitions of "fake".
>
> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It
> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still using
> HTTP.
> YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time (after they
> finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google itself - can cache
> it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last two years to learn
> this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies.
>
> As I explain here why:
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Discussion
>
> All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to cache.
>
>
> If you look at the features list it clearly says:
>  "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."
> HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid.
>
>
> Amos
>
> ___
> squid-users mailing list
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> 
> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>

-- 
Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.


0x613DEC46.asc
Description: application/pgp-keys


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Eliezer Croitoru]

Yuri,

Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this?
I mean, what would anyone get from this?
Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or would
you want only an open source solution?

Eliezer


Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> 
Linux System Administrator
Mobile: +972-5-28704261
Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il
 

From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] On
Behalf Of Yuri Voinov
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54
To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy certificate
to the clients. 
The problem in combating caching YT by Google.

19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:


19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
thanks, yuri,

just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?

On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
This is fake.

Only for strange definitions of "fake".

It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It
should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still using
HTTP.
YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time (after they
finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google itself - can cache
it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last two years to learn
this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies.

As I explain here why:
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Discussion

All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to cache.


If you look at the features list it clearly says:
 "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."
HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid.


Amos

___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
<mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> 
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

-- 
Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.

-- 
Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.
<>___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy
certificate to the clients.

The problem in combating caching YT by Google.


19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:
>
>
>
> 19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
>>> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
 thanks, yuri,

 just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?

>> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
>>> This is fake.
>>>
>> Only for strange definitions of "fake".
>>
>> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It
>> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still using HTTP.
> YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time (after
> they finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google itself
> - can cache it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last two
> years to learn this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies.
>
> As I explain here
> why: 
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Discussion
> 
>
> All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to
> cache.
>
>> If you look at the features list it clearly says:
>>  "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."
> HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid.
>> Amos
>>
>> ___
>> squid-users mailing list
>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>
> -- 
> Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.

-- 
Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.


0x613DEC46.asc
Description: application/pgp-keys


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
>> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
>>> thanks, yuri,
>>>
>>> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?
>>>
> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
>> This is fake.
>>
> Only for strange definitions of "fake".
>
> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It
> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still using HTTP.
YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time (after
they finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google itself -
can cache it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last two
years to learn this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies.

As I explain here
why: 
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Discussion


All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to cache.

> If you look at the features list it clearly says:
>  "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."
HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid.
>
> Amos
>
> ___
> squid-users mailing list
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

-- 
Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.


0x613DEC46.asc
Description: application/pgp-keys


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Amos Jeffries]

> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
>> thanks, yuri,
>>
>> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?
>>

On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
> This is fake.
>

Only for strange definitions of "fake".

It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It
should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still using HTTP.

If you look at the features list it clearly says:
 "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."

Amos

___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

This is fake.


19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
> thanks, yuri,
>
> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Yuri Voinov  > wrote:
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/Intercept/SslBumpExplicit
> 
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreID
> 
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreID/DB
> 
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent
> 
>
> 
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Discussion
> 
> 
>
>
> 19.11.2016 20:13, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
>> hi there,
>>
>> can you please guide me how to cache videos (youtube,
>> khanacademy) over https?
>>
>> cheers!
>>
>>
>> ___
>> squid-users mailing list
>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
>> 
>> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>> 
> -- Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.
> ___ squid-users
> mailing list squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> 
> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>  
>
-- Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.


0x613DEC46.asc
Description: application/pgp-keys


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Bakhtiyor Homidov]

thanks, yuri,

just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?




On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Yuri Voinov  wrote:

> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/Intercept/SslBumpExplicit
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreID
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreID/DB
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent
>
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/
> YouTube/Discussion
>
> 19.11.2016 20:13, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
>
> hi there,
>
> can you please guide me how to cache videos (youtube, khanacademy) over
> https?
>
> cheers!
>
>
> ___
> squid-users mailing 
> listsquid-users@lists.squid-cache.orghttp://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>
>
> --
> Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.
>
> ___
> squid-users mailing list
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
>
>
___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?

[Yuri Voinov]

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/Intercept/SslBumpExplicit

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreID

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreID/DB

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Discussion


19.11.2016 20:13, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
> hi there,
>
> can you please guide me how to cache videos (youtube, khanacademy)
> over https?
>
> cheers!
>
>
> ___
> squid-users mailing list
> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users

-- 
Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.


0x613DEC46.asc
Description: application/pgp-keys


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
squid-users mailing list
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users