Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-24 Thread Samuel F .
Hey,


Almost done with a POC. Should I open up a PR and we can review / iterate on it 
or is there a better of way of sharing the code?


Cheers,

Samuel


From: Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:41:35 PM
To: Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial


Hello,

On 24.11.17 13:43, Samuel F. wrote:

Hey,


Just tested and it seems to work well! I compared the output to the output from 
app_lua to run some type of sanity check and it seems to show the same 
information.

I think that KSR.x package doesn't have exit() and drop() functions in 
app_python ... but not sure if KSR.x is dumped via rpc.


However, there is one issue with the rpc app_lua.api_list, when running the RPC 
command it returns the result set twice so you get a msize of twice the msize 
of app_python and duplicated data.

I will check.

Cheers,
Daniel



// Samuel


From: Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com><mailto:mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52:24 PM
To: Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial


Hello,


I just pushed the rpc command app_python.api_list to master branch. Can you 
test and see if works? If all ok, then I will push it to branch 5.1 as well.


Cheers,
Daniel

On 23.11.17 08:31, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:

Hello,

On 22.11.17 19:47, Samuel F. wrote:

Hi again,


Regarding RPC list: I do not think it is implemented for python?

it is not, indeed, I just looked at the code. I am not much into python myself, 
so it was overlooked -- I just added kemi support for it on top of the previous 
app_python.


I checked the source and couldn't find anything that would handle the RPC call:

kamctl rpc app_python.api_list

Regarding the documentation:
I didn't mean to document in the source code, sorry for not expressing myself 
clearly,

That was a proposal on the IRC devel meeting to add doxygen docs for kemi 
function, which is good to have anyhow, but for something with more details and 
examples, doxygen can become a mess.

 I ment to generate the Kemi function list documentation from the source code 
automatically via a script instead of updating it manually (so the 
documentation doesn't become stale). One example could be to run the RPC 
api_list and take that list to generate a documentation file that shows all 
available functions. I tried to check that out now but couldn't get it working 
for python because I think the command is missing (v5.0.4).

So to condense my proposal on how we could structure the KEMI docs I would 
suggest:
- General documentation about how KEMI works: As it is now, great
- Document special functions that are only implemented in KEMI /or differs from 
the original module implementation: As it is now, great
- Not have sections for each and every module, just one section with a long 
list of exported KEMI functions with a link to the original documentation

I'm happy to take a shot at generating a script for this but would need help to 
understand how I can export the python API list.

I am going to add the rpc command to app_python, then you can try to build your 
tool for it.

Cheers,
Daniel


// Samuel


From: Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com><mailto:mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:20:21 PM
To: Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial


Hello,

On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:

Hi Daniel,


First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very grateful for 
the KEMI framework. We have developed three small applications running on 
python KEMI in production serving calls every day successfully without any 
issues at all. The development process was very smooth and quick.

thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that KEMI is 
being used in production and also it shows its potential for various needs.



I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI framework gets 
an extensive documentation.


One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is that I think 
it's good if they are exported to the docs automatically from the source code. 
My opinion is that it is better to have documentation that reflects the current 
state of the source code rather than having stale/out-of-date documentation.


Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions, lists them in 
appropriate modules with the return value and then a link to the actual modules 
documentation?

There is an RPC command that lists the exported KEMI functions for a running 
Kamailio. It reflects exactly what functions are available from the kemi 
framework internal structure. This is like an auto discovery, it is done 
automaticall

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-24 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello,


On 24.11.17 13:43, Samuel F. wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>
> Just tested and it seems to work well! I compared the output to the
> output from app_lua to run some type of sanity check and it seems to
> show the same information.
>
I think that KSR.x package doesn't have exit() and drop() functions in
app_python ... but not sure if KSR.x is dumped via rpc.
>
>
> However, there is one issue with the rpc app_lua.api_list, when
> running the RPC command it returns the result set twice so you get a
> msize of twice the msize of app_python and duplicated data.
>
I will check.

Cheers,
Daniel

>
> // Samuel
>
> 
> *From:* Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52:24 PM
> *To:* Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial
>  
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I just pushed the rpc command app_python.api_list to master branch.
> Can you test and see if works? If all ok, then I will push it to
> branch 5.1 as well.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>
> On 23.11.17 08:31, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> On 22.11.17 19:47, Samuel F. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding RPC list: I do not think it is implemented for python?
>>>
>> it is not, indeed, I just looked at the code. I am not much into
>> python myself, so it was overlooked -- I just added kemi support for
>> it on top of the previous app_python.
>>
>>> I checked the source and couldn't find anything that would handle
>>> the RPC call:
>>>
>>> kamctl rpc app_python.api_list
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding the documentation:
>>> I didn't mean to document in the source code, sorry for not
>>> expressing myself clearly,
>>
>> That was a proposal on the IRC devel meeting to add doxygen docs for
>> kemi function, which is good to have anyhow, but for something with
>> more details and examples, doxygen can become a mess.
>>
>>>  I ment to generate the Kemi function list documentation from the
>>> source code automatically via a script instead of updating it
>>> manually (so the documentation doesn't become stale). One example
>>> could be to run the RPC api_list and take that list to generate a
>>> documentation file that shows all available functions. I tried to
>>> check that out now but couldn't get it working for python because I
>>> think the command is missing (v5.0.4).
>>>
>>> So to condense my proposal on how we could structure the KEMI docs I
>>> would suggest:
>>> - General documentation about how KEMI works: As it is now, great
>>> - Document special functions that are only implemented in KEMI /or
>>> differs from the original module implementation: As it is now, great
>>> - Not have sections for each and every module, just one section with
>>> a long list of exported KEMI functions with a link to the original
>>> documentation
>>>
>>> I'm happy to take a shot at generating a script for this but would
>>> need help to understand how I can export the python API list.
>>
>> I am going to add the rpc command to app_python, then you can try to
>> build your tool for it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>>
>>>
>>> // Samuel
>>>
>>> 
>>> *From:* Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:mico...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:20:21 PM
>>> *To:* Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very
>>>> grateful for the KEMI framework. We have developed three
>>>> small applications running on python KEMI in production serving
>>>> calls every day successfully without any issues at all. The
>>>> development process was very smooth and quick.
>>>>
>>>
>>> thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that
>>> KEMI is being used in production and also it shows its potential for
>>> various needs.
>>>
>>&

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-24 Thread Samuel F .
Hey,


Just tested and it seems to work well! I compared the output to the output from 
app_lua to run some type of sanity check and it seems to show the same 
information.


However, there is one issue with the rpc app_lua.api_list, when running the RPC 
command it returns the result set twice so you get a msize of twice the msize 
of app_python and duplicated data.


// Samuel


From: Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:52:24 PM
To: Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial


Hello,


I just pushed the rpc command app_python.api_list to master branch. Can you 
test and see if works? If all ok, then I will push it to branch 5.1 as well.


Cheers,
Daniel

On 23.11.17 08:31, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:

Hello,

On 22.11.17 19:47, Samuel F. wrote:

Hi again,


Regarding RPC list: I do not think it is implemented for python?

it is not, indeed, I just looked at the code. I am not much into python myself, 
so it was overlooked -- I just added kemi support for it on top of the previous 
app_python.


I checked the source and couldn't find anything that would handle the RPC call:

kamctl rpc app_python.api_list

Regarding the documentation:
I didn't mean to document in the source code, sorry for not expressing myself 
clearly,

That was a proposal on the IRC devel meeting to add doxygen docs for kemi 
function, which is good to have anyhow, but for something with more details and 
examples, doxygen can become a mess.

 I ment to generate the Kemi function list documentation from the source code 
automatically via a script instead of updating it manually (so the 
documentation doesn't become stale). One example could be to run the RPC 
api_list and take that list to generate a documentation file that shows all 
available functions. I tried to check that out now but couldn't get it working 
for python because I think the command is missing (v5.0.4).

So to condense my proposal on how we could structure the KEMI docs I would 
suggest:
- General documentation about how KEMI works: As it is now, great
- Document special functions that are only implemented in KEMI /or differs from 
the original module implementation: As it is now, great
- Not have sections for each and every module, just one section with a long 
list of exported KEMI functions with a link to the original documentation

I'm happy to take a shot at generating a script for this but would need help to 
understand how I can export the python API list.

I am going to add the rpc command to app_python, then you can try to build your 
tool for it.

Cheers,
Daniel


// Samuel


From: Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com><mailto:mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:20:21 PM
To: Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial


Hello,

On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:

Hi Daniel,


First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very grateful for 
the KEMI framework. We have developed three small applications running on 
python KEMI in production serving calls every day successfully without any 
issues at all. The development process was very smooth and quick.

thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that KEMI is 
being used in production and also it shows its potential for various needs.



I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI framework gets 
an extensive documentation.


One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is that I think 
it's good if they are exported to the docs automatically from the source code. 
My opinion is that it is better to have documentation that reflects the current 
state of the source code rather than having stale/out-of-date documentation.


Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions, lists them in 
appropriate modules with the return value and then a link to the actual modules 
documentation?

There is an RPC command that lists the exported KEMI functions for a running 
Kamailio. It reflects exactly what functions are available from the kemi 
framework internal structure. This is like an auto discovery, it is done 
automatically.

Addition docs can be added in the code using doxygen, however, while that is 
good for short descriptions, I don't find it good to add extensive docs and 
especially usage examples in the code. Also, from past experiences, 
non-developer users tend not to look at the code, therefore the improvements to 
docs in code from general users are very low.

Anyhow, this tutorial was started with the initial goal of covering the KEMI 
framework in general, and the special functions. For the functions exported by 
modules I added only the acc as an example (which is also a skeleton at this 
moment).

As I said, I am open for suggestions on 

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-23 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello,


I just pushed the rpc command app_python.api_list to master branch. Can
you test and see if works? If all ok, then I will push it to branch 5.1
as well.


Cheers,
Daniel


On 23.11.17 08:31, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> On 22.11.17 19:47, Samuel F. wrote:
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>>
>> Regarding RPC list: I do not think it is implemented for python?
>>
> it is not, indeed, I just looked at the code. I am not much into
> python myself, so it was overlooked -- I just added kemi support for
> it on top of the previous app_python.
>
>> I checked the source and couldn't find anything that would handle the
>> RPC call:
>>
>> kamctl rpc app_python.api_list
>>
>>
>> Regarding the documentation:
>> I didn't mean to document in the source code, sorry for not
>> expressing myself clearly,
>
> That was a proposal on the IRC devel meeting to add doxygen docs for
> kemi function, which is good to have anyhow, but for something with
> more details and examples, doxygen can become a mess.
>
>>  I ment to generate the Kemi function list documentation from the
>> source code automatically via a script instead of updating it
>> manually (so the documentation doesn't become stale). One example
>> could be to run the RPC api_list and take that list to generate a
>> documentation file that shows all available functions. I tried to
>> check that out now but couldn't get it working for python because I
>> think the command is missing (v5.0.4).
>>
>> So to condense my proposal on how we could structure the KEMI docs I
>> would suggest:
>> - General documentation about how KEMI works: As it is now, great
>> - Document special functions that are only implemented in KEMI /or
>> differs from the original module implementation: As it is now, great
>> - Not have sections for each and every module, just one section with
>> a long list of exported KEMI functions with a link to the original
>> documentation
>>
>> I'm happy to take a shot at generating a script for this but would
>> need help to understand how I can export the python API list.
>
> I am going to add the rpc command to app_python, then you can try to
> build your tool for it.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>>
>> // Samuel
>>
>> 
>> *From:* Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:20:21 PM
>> *To:* Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial
>>  
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>>
>>> First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very
>>> grateful for the KEMI framework. We have developed three
>>> small applications running on python KEMI in production serving
>>> calls every day successfully without any issues at all. The
>>> development process was very smooth and quick.
>>>
>>
>> thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that
>> KEMI is being used in production and also it shows its potential for
>> various needs.
>>
>>>
>>> I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI
>>> framework gets an extensive documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>> One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is
>>> that I think it's good if they are exported to the docs
>>> automatically from the source code. My opinion is that it is better
>>> to have documentation that reflects the current state of the source
>>> code rather than having stale/out-of-date documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions,
>>> lists them in appropriate modules with the return value and then a
>>> link to the actual modules documentation?
>>>
>>
>> There is an RPC command that lists the exported KEMI functions for a
>> running Kamailio. It reflects exactly what functions are available
>> from the kemi framework internal structure. This is like an auto
>> discovery, it is done automatically.
>>
>> Addition docs can be added in the code using doxygen, however, while
>> that is good for short descriptions, I don't find it good to add
>> extensive docs and especially usage examples in the code. Also, from
>> past experiences, non-developer users tend not to look at the code,

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-22 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello,


On 22.11.17 19:47, Samuel F. wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
>
> Regarding RPC list: I do not think it is implemented for python?
>
it is not, indeed, I just looked at the code. I am not much into python
myself, so it was overlooked -- I just added kemi support for it on top
of the previous app_python.

> I checked the source and couldn't find anything that would handle the
> RPC call:
>
> kamctl rpc app_python.api_list
>
>
> Regarding the documentation:
> I didn't mean to document in the source code, sorry for not expressing
> myself clearly,

That was a proposal on the IRC devel meeting to add doxygen docs for
kemi function, which is good to have anyhow, but for something with more
details and examples, doxygen can become a mess.

>  I ment to generate the Kemi function list documentation from the
> source code automatically via a script instead of updating it manually
> (so the documentation doesn't become stale). One example could be to
> run the RPC api_list and take that list to generate a documentation
> file that shows all available functions. I tried to check that out now
> but couldn't get it working for python because I think the command is
> missing (v5.0.4).
>
> So to condense my proposal on how we could structure the KEMI docs I
> would suggest:
> - General documentation about how KEMI works: As it is now, great
> - Document special functions that are only implemented in KEMI /or
> differs from the original module implementation: As it is now, great
> - Not have sections for each and every module, just one section with a
> long list of exported KEMI functions with a link to the original
> documentation
>
> I'm happy to take a shot at generating a script for this but would
> need help to understand how I can export the python API list.

I am going to add the rpc command to app_python, then you can try to
build your tool for it.

Cheers,
Daniel

>
> // Samuel
>
> 
> *From:* Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:20:21 PM
> *To:* Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial
>  
>
> Hello,
>
>
> On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>>
>> First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very
>> grateful for the KEMI framework. We have developed three
>> small applications running on python KEMI in production serving calls
>> every day successfully without any issues at all. The development
>> process was very smooth and quick.
>>
>
> thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that
> KEMI is being used in production and also it shows its potential for
> various needs.
>
>>
>> I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI
>> framework gets an extensive documentation.
>>
>>
>> One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is
>> that I think it's good if they are exported to the docs automatically
>> from the source code. My opinion is that it is better to have
>> documentation that reflects the current state of the source code
>> rather than having stale/out-of-date documentation.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions,
>> lists them in appropriate modules with the return value and then a
>> link to the actual modules documentation?
>>
>
> There is an RPC command that lists the exported KEMI functions for a
> running Kamailio. It reflects exactly what functions are available
> from the kemi framework internal structure. This is like an auto
> discovery, it is done automatically.
>
> Addition docs can be added in the code using doxygen, however, while
> that is good for short descriptions, I don't find it good to add
> extensive docs and especially usage examples in the code. Also, from
> past experiences, non-developer users tend not to look at the code,
> therefore the improvements to docs in code from general users are very
> low.
>
> Anyhow, this tutorial was started with the initial goal of covering
> the KEMI framework in general, and the special functions. For the
> functions exported by modules I added only the acc as an example
> (which is also a skeleton at this moment).
>
> As I said, I am open for suggestions on how to do the docs for kemi
> functions from modules. Your proposal with using somehow the code is
> not like being dismissed, I just expressed my opinions based.
> Contributions to parse the code and extract prototypes are of course
> welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>
>>
>>

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-22 Thread Samuel F .
Hi again,


Regarding RPC list: I do not think it is implemented for python? I checked the 
source and couldn't find anything that would handle the RPC call:

kamctl rpc app_python.api_list

Regarding the documentation:
I didn't mean to document in the source code, sorry for not expressing myself 
clearly, I ment to generate the Kemi function list documentation from the 
source code automatically via a script instead of updating it manually (so the 
documentation doesn't become stale). One example could be to run the RPC 
api_list and take that list to generate a documentation file that shows all 
available functions. I tried to check that out now but couldn't get it working 
for python because I think the command is missing (v5.0.4).

So to condense my proposal on how we could structure the KEMI docs I would 
suggest:
- General documentation about how KEMI works: As it is now, great
- Document special functions that are only implemented in KEMI /or differs from 
the original module implementation: As it is now, great
- Not have sections for each and every module, just one section with a long 
list of exported KEMI functions with a link to the original documentation

I'm happy to take a shot at generating a script for this but would need help to 
understand how I can export the python API list.

// Samuel



From: Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:20:21 PM
To: Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial


Hello,

On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:

Hi Daniel,


First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very grateful for 
the KEMI framework. We have developed three small applications running on 
python KEMI in production serving calls every day successfully without any 
issues at all. The development process was very smooth and quick.

thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that KEMI is 
being used in production and also it shows its potential for various needs.



I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI framework gets 
an extensive documentation.


One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is that I think 
it's good if they are exported to the docs automatically from the source code. 
My opinion is that it is better to have documentation that reflects the current 
state of the source code rather than having stale/out-of-date documentation.


Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions, lists them in 
appropriate modules with the return value and then a link to the actual modules 
documentation?

There is an RPC command that lists the exported KEMI functions for a running 
Kamailio. It reflects exactly what functions are available from the kemi 
framework internal structure. This is like an auto discovery, it is done 
automatically.

Addition docs can be added in the code using doxygen, however, while that is 
good for short descriptions, I don't find it good to add extensive docs and 
especially usage examples in the code. Also, from past experiences, 
non-developer users tend not to look at the code, therefore the improvements to 
docs in code from general users are very low.

Anyhow, this tutorial was started with the initial goal of covering the KEMI 
framework in general, and the special functions. For the functions exported by 
modules I added only the acc as an example (which is also a skeleton at this 
moment).

As I said, I am open for suggestions on how to do the docs for kemi functions 
from modules. Your proposal with using somehow the code is not like being 
dismissed, I just expressed my opinions based. Contributions to parse the code 
and extract prototypes are of course welcome.

Cheers,
Daniel




// Samuel


From: sr-users 
<sr-users-boun...@lists.kamailio.org><mailto:sr-users-boun...@lists.kamailio.org>
 on behalf of Daniel-Constantin Mierla 
<mico...@gmail.com><mailto:mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 4:11:54 PM
To: Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List; Kamailio (SER) - Devel Mailing List
Subject: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

Hello,

I started a tutorial for Kamailio KEMI Framework written in markdown
format targeting use of mkdocs. It is published on github as part of
kamailio-docs repository:

  *
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkamailio%2Fkamailio-docs%2Ftree%2Fmaster%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=MuTy1ZgjcDEbQdHTGA2LpO1sKUDAxxo%2BupwGr%2BBspCE%3D=0

The mkdocs build (to browse and read) is online at:

  * 
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkamailio.org%2Fdocs%2Ftutorials%2Fdevel%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework%2F=02%7C01%

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-21 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Likely you spotted it, but for sake of completion and highlighting to
everyone, the rpc commands to list the kemi functions are listed with
kamctl usage example at the end of the section on the web at:


  - http://127.0.0.1:8000/kemi/#kemi-functions


Cheers,
Daniel


On 21.11.17 15:20, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>>
>> First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very
>> grateful for the KEMI framework. We have developed three
>> small applications running on python KEMI in production serving calls
>> every day successfully without any issues at all. The development
>> process was very smooth and quick.
>>
>
> thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that
> KEMI is being used in production and also it shows its potential for
> various needs.
>
>>
>> I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI
>> framework gets an extensive documentation.
>>
>>
>> One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is
>> that I think it's good if they are exported to the docs automatically
>> from the source code. My opinion is that it is better to have
>> documentation that reflects the current state of the source code
>> rather than having stale/out-of-date documentation.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions,
>> lists them in appropriate modules with the return value and then a
>> link to the actual modules documentation?
>>
>
> There is an RPC command that lists the exported KEMI functions for a
> running Kamailio. It reflects exactly what functions are available
> from the kemi framework internal structure. This is like an auto
> discovery, it is done automatically.
>
> Addition docs can be added in the code using doxygen, however, while
> that is good for short descriptions, I don't find it good to add
> extensive docs and especially usage examples in the code. Also, from
> past experiences, non-developer users tend not to look at the code,
> therefore the improvements to docs in code from general users are very
> low.
>
> Anyhow, this tutorial was started with the initial goal of covering
> the KEMI framework in general, and the special functions. For the
> functions exported by modules I added only the acc as an example
> (which is also a skeleton at this moment).
>
> As I said, I am open for suggestions on how to do the docs for kemi
> functions from modules. Your proposal with using somehow the code is
> not like being dismissed, I just expressed my opinions based.
> Contributions to parse the code and extract prototypes are of course
> welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>
>>
>> // Samuel
>>
>> ------------
>> *From:* sr-users <sr-users-boun...@lists.kamailio.org> on behalf of
>> Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 4:11:54 PM
>> *To:* Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List; Kamailio (SER) - Devel
>> Mailing List
>> *Subject:* [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial
>>  
>> Hello,
>>
>> I started a tutorial for Kamailio KEMI Framework written in markdown
>> format targeting use of mkdocs. It is published on github as part of
>> kamailio-docs repository:
>>
>>   *
>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkamailio%2Fkamailio-docs%2Ftree%2Fmaster%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=MuTy1ZgjcDEbQdHTGA2LpO1sKUDAxxo%2BupwGr%2BBspCE%3D=0
>>
>> The mkdocs build (to browse and read) is online at:
>>
>>   *
>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkamailio.org%2Fdocs%2Ftutorials%2Fdevel%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework%2F=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=FHJ1zANtLQI6o2%2F1wFPFYfu1B94JlQ%2FHTLDbaVp7dUg%3D=0
>>
>> It is work in progress and contributions from the community are more
>> than welcome -- doing push requests on github project is the recommended
>> way for contributions:
>>
>>   *
>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkamailio%2Fkamailio-docs%2F=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=utRI9tOvpEuyBWFU70KaBaod6URNk0ju4rTSQl%2FhO3I%3D=0
>>

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-21 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello,


On 21.11.17 10:20, Samuel F. wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
>
> First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very
> grateful for the KEMI framework. We have developed three
> small applications running on python KEMI in production serving calls
> every day successfully without any issues at all. The development
> process was very smooth and quick.
>

thanks for the feedback, really appreciated! It is good to know that
KEMI is being used in production and also it shows its potential for
various needs.

>
> I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI
> framework gets an extensive documentation.
>
>
> One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is that
> I think it's good if they are exported to the docs automatically from
> the source code. My opinion is that it is better to have documentation
> that reflects the current state of the source code rather than having
> stale/out-of-date documentation.
>
>
> Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions, lists
> them in appropriate modules with the return value and then a link to
> the actual modules documentation?
>

There is an RPC command that lists the exported KEMI functions for a
running Kamailio. It reflects exactly what functions are available from
the kemi framework internal structure. This is like an auto discovery,
it is done automatically.

Addition docs can be added in the code using doxygen, however, while
that is good for short descriptions, I don't find it good to add
extensive docs and especially usage examples in the code. Also, from
past experiences, non-developer users tend not to look at the code,
therefore the improvements to docs in code from general users are very low.

Anyhow, this tutorial was started with the initial goal of covering the
KEMI framework in general, and the special functions. For the functions
exported by modules I added only the acc as an example (which is also a
skeleton at this moment).

As I said, I am open for suggestions on how to do the docs for kemi
functions from modules. Your proposal with using somehow the code is not
like being dismissed, I just expressed my opinions based. Contributions
to parse the code and extract prototypes are of course welcome.

Cheers,
Daniel


>
> // Samuel
>
> 
> *From:* sr-users <sr-users-boun...@lists.kamailio.org> on behalf of
> Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 4:11:54 PM
> *To:* Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List; Kamailio (SER) - Devel
> Mailing List
> *Subject:* [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial
>  
> Hello,
>
> I started a tutorial for Kamailio KEMI Framework written in markdown
> format targeting use of mkdocs. It is published on github as part of
> kamailio-docs repository:
>
>   *
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkamailio%2Fkamailio-docs%2Ftree%2Fmaster%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=MuTy1ZgjcDEbQdHTGA2LpO1sKUDAxxo%2BupwGr%2BBspCE%3D=0
>
> The mkdocs build (to browse and read) is online at:
>
>   *
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkamailio.org%2Fdocs%2Ftutorials%2Fdevel%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework%2F=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=FHJ1zANtLQI6o2%2F1wFPFYfu1B94JlQ%2FHTLDbaVp7dUg%3D=0
>
> It is work in progress and contributions from the community are more
> than welcome -- doing push requests on github project is the recommended
> way for contributions:
>
>   *
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkamailio%2Fkamailio-docs%2F=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=utRI9tOvpEuyBWFU70KaBaod6URNk0ju4rTSQl%2FhO3I%3D=0
>
> The main goal is document the role of KEMI, its benefits and how it can
> be used. It addition it should cover the list of functions exported to
> KEMI by core as well as special KEMI functions.
>
> Regarding the functions exported by kamailio modules to KEMI I added as
> an skeleton the ones exported by acc module. However, I am not sure if
> we should do it there or add them to the existing docs of the modules.
> Opinions on this?!?
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
> -- 
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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-21 Thread Samuel F .
Hi Daniel,


First, I'd just like to say thanks and let you know we are very grateful for 
the KEMI framework. We have developed three small applications running on 
python KEMI in production serving calls every day successfully without any 
issues at all. The development process was very smooth and quick.


I reviewed the documentation and think it's great that the KEMI framework gets 
an extensive documentation.


One thought I had regarding documenting the exported functions is that I think 
it's good if they are exported to the docs automatically from the source code. 
My opinion is that it is better to have documentation that reflects the current 
state of the source code rather than having stale/out-of-date documentation.


Perhaps having a parser that locates all the exported functions, lists them in 
appropriate modules with the return value and then a link to the actual modules 
documentation?


// Samuel


From: sr-users <sr-users-boun...@lists.kamailio.org> on behalf of 
Daniel-Constantin Mierla <mico...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 4:11:54 PM
To: Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List; Kamailio (SER) - Devel Mailing List
Subject: [SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

Hello,

I started a tutorial for Kamailio KEMI Framework written in markdown
format targeting use of mkdocs. It is published on github as part of
kamailio-docs repository:

  *
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkamailio%2Fkamailio-docs%2Ftree%2Fmaster%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=MuTy1ZgjcDEbQdHTGA2LpO1sKUDAxxo%2BupwGr%2BBspCE%3D=0

The mkdocs build (to browse and read) is online at:

  * 
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkamailio.org%2Fdocs%2Ftutorials%2Fdevel%2Fkamailio-kemi-framework%2F=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=FHJ1zANtLQI6o2%2F1wFPFYfu1B94JlQ%2FHTLDbaVp7dUg%3D=0

It is work in progress and contributions from the community are more
than welcome -- doing push requests on github project is the recommended
way for contributions:

  * 
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkamailio%2Fkamailio-docs%2F=02%7C01%7Csamuel_is_kewl%40hotmail.com%7C226fe2242ed4436c13fa08d53029444d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636467876150276887=utRI9tOvpEuyBWFU70KaBaod6URNk0ju4rTSQl%2FhO3I%3D=0

The main goal is document the role of KEMI, its benefits and how it can
be used. It addition it should cover the list of functions exported to
KEMI by core as well as special KEMI functions.

Regarding the functions exported by kamailio modules to KEMI I added as
an skeleton the ones exported by acc module. However, I am not sure if
we should do it there or add them to the existing docs of the modules.
Opinions on this?!?

Cheers,
Daniel

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[SR-Users] Kamailio KEMI Framework Tutorial

2017-11-20 Thread Daniel-Constantin Mierla
Hello,

I started a tutorial for Kamailio KEMI Framework written in markdown
format targeting use of mkdocs. It is published on github as part of
kamailio-docs repository:

  *
https://github.com/kamailio/kamailio-docs/tree/master/kamailio-kemi-framework

The mkdocs build (to browse and read) is online at:

  * http://kamailio.org/docs/tutorials/devel/kamailio-kemi-framework/

It is work in progress and contributions from the community are more
than welcome -- doing push requests on github project is the recommended
way for contributions:

  * https://github.com/kamailio/kamailio-docs/

The main goal is document the role of KEMI, its benefits and how it can
be used. It addition it should cover the list of functions exported to
KEMI by core as well as special KEMI functions.

Regarding the functions exported by kamailio modules to KEMI I added as
an skeleton the ones exported by acc module. However, I am not sure if
we should do it there or add them to the existing docs of the modules.
Opinions on this?!?

Cheers,
Daniel

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