Re: [Standards] XEP-0227 update
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 02:13:19PM +0100, Matthew Wild wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 12:12, Matthew Wild wrote: I think your point and Kev's are somewhat related. The current proposal does not allow for preservation of explicit subscriptions or affiliations. I think today's reality is that everyone is doing full pubsub on the account JID, and it makes sense to preserve this information as well. If there are no objections, I'll add some text about this, and allow for inclusion of a single and element, as documented in: - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#example-25 (subscriptions) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#example-27 (affiliations) It's awkward that it's a single element rather than one per node (as with items and configure), but there we are. Never mind. Elsewhere in XEP-0060 I found more appropriate elements that list subscriptions/affiliations for an individual node. I've updated the PR, and pushed a rendered copy here: https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/xep-0227.html#pep There is a minor addition to 4.10 about non-PEP features, but most of the new text is in 4.10.1, and I updated the example to show the new elements. LGTM -- Kim "Zash" Alvefur XSF Council signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0227 update
On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 12:12, Matthew Wild wrote: > I think your point and Kev's are somewhat related. The current > proposal does not allow for preservation of explicit subscriptions or > affiliations. I think today's reality is that everyone is doing full > pubsub on the account JID, and it makes sense to preserve this > information as well. > > If there are no objections, I'll add some text about this, and allow > for inclusion of a single and element, > as documented in: > > - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#example-25 (subscriptions) > - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#example-27 (affiliations) > > It's awkward that it's a single element rather than one per node (as > with items and configure), but there we are. Never mind. Elsewhere in XEP-0060 I found more appropriate elements that list subscriptions/affiliations for an individual node. I've updated the PR, and pushed a rendered copy here: https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/xep-0227.html#pep There is a minor addition to 4.10 about non-PEP features, but most of the new text is in 4.10.1, and I updated the example to show the new elements. Regards, Matthew ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0227 update
On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 13:40, Kim Alvefur wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 04:59:40PM +0100, Matthew Wild wrote: > >I've prepared an update that adds some of the missing features: > > - PEP nodes (configuration and items) > > What about explicit subscriptions and affiliations relevant? While not > strictly required for basic PEP, there are implementations that support > more optional (for PEP) PubSub features including support for > subscriptions and affiliations that aren't attached to presence > subscriptions. And with that covered by XEP-0227 then it might not be > far from being usable for PubSub (components etc) exports as well. I think your point and Kev's are somewhat related. The current proposal does not allow for preservation of explicit subscriptions or affiliations. I think today's reality is that everyone is doing full pubsub on the account JID, and it makes sense to preserve this information as well. If there are no objections, I'll add some text about this, and allow for inclusion of a single and element, as documented in: - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#example-25 (subscriptions) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#example-27 (affiliations) It's awkward that it's a single element rather than one per node (as with items and configure), but there we are. Regards, Matthew ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
