[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: HTTP Online Meetings

[Guus der Kinderen]

Hello!

Thank you for your feedback. Dele and I discussed Marvin's comments, and
agreed with his suggestion. We will provide an update to XEP-0483 to refer
to XEP-0482 for the applicable functionality described therein.

Kind regards,

  Guus

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:04 PM Daniel Gultsch  wrote:

> Dear Editor,
>
> Council has accepted this XEP.
>
>
> Dear XEP author: Council has noted some overlap with XEP-0482. Please
> get in touch with the authors of that XEP to see if you can merge
> and/or remove the overlap. See Marvins earlier mail for details.
>
> cheers
> Daniel
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[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: HTTP Online Meetings

[Daniel Gultsch]

Dear Editor,

Council has accepted this XEP.


Dear XEP author: Council has noted some overlap with XEP-0482. Please
get in touch with the authors of that XEP to see if you can merge
and/or remove the overlap. See Marvins earlier mail for details.

cheers
Daniel
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[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: HTTP Online Meetings

[Marvin W]

Hi,

This XEP has two parts:
1. An IQ-based protocol to request a meeting link from a server.
2. An additional element to add to a message to send the meeting link
to another party

The second feature is already available via XEP-0482, which describes
call invites using Jingle and external URIs. The XEP already mentions
weblinks to join the call as an example for such external URIs.
As XEP-0482 has a bunch of other features, like announcing join and
leave on the XMPP side (works especially great if the website is opened
in a frame or similar inside the XMPP client, as the XMPP client then
even knows when the user left the call) or the ability to additionally
announce dial-in tel:-URIs (which some Jitsi instances also support and
may be very useful for mobile clients).

Therefore, I'm proposing to remove the second part from the XEP (or
better: replace it with how to use XEP-0482 for this purpose).

If it is desirable to have a way to signal that the URL is a jitsi URL,
I propose to instead have that as an additional element in the XEP-0482
 (which it mentions as a possible extension point
"Specifications that describe further ways to join a call define their
own sub-elements to the  element"). This element (e.g. ) would be
additional to the  element, so that receiving clients that
don't understand this proposed XEP, but do understand XEP-0482 will
still have a reasonably good UX, just nothing jitsi specific. Replace
jitsi in this paragraph with any other online meeting tool as you see
fit.

Marvin

On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 16:28 +, kevin.sm...@isode.com wrote:
> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.
> 
> Title: HTTP Online Meetings
> Abstract:
> This specification defines a protocol extension to request URLs from
> an external HTTP entity usable to initiate and invite participants to
> an online meeting.
> 
> URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-http_online_meetings.html
> 
> The Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this
> proposal as an official XEP.
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