[OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Paul, R. Chip
I had been considering moving to MacOS X for a while now just because of
general windows frustration.  I was wondering how many issues, such as the
one below, there are in developing on a mac?  I've heard that Eclipse runs
much faster in Windows than on a Mac as well, and I don't know if their
Xcode environment can work with java.  The last time I was developing java
on a mac was about 8 years ago, I think we were using Codewarrior at the
time.

Are many people on the list developing java with MacOS, and which tools work
best on that platform?


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From: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:57 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build
available)


that lets me define the individual versions of *all* dependencies for 
*all* projects so that I can say, for example, use *this* version of 
commons-beanutils and *that* version of commons-digester to build 
***all*** of the components that are going in to my overall exectable.  
I am *so* not interested in dealing with runtime exceptions because 
different dependent packages were compiled against different versions 
of the dependent libraries.

Can someone please help me understand how to do this with Maven?  
Without it, I'm not planning to switch any of my personal or 
internal-to-Sun projects (even if the Struts committers decide to 
switch Struts development itself).

This is actually pretty easy, if I understand you correctly.  If you 
define the Maven property maven.jar.override to the value on, 
then when resolving dependencies, Maven will check each against a 
possibly defined override.

For example, the version of Cactus that everyone else in Struts uses 
doesn't work on Mac OS X.  The Cactus CVS head has the patch that 
works, so in my Struts/maven environment, I have this defined:

maven.jar.override=on
# patched version of cactus related to Mac OS X:
# http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25266i
maven.jar.cactus-ant=1.6dev-2003-12-07
maven.jar.jakarta-cactus-framework=13-1.6dev

You can use full paths to JARs as well as version numbers.  This is 
detailed here:
http://maven.apache.org/reference/user-guide.html#Overriding_Stated_Dependen
cies

Properties are defined like so: 
(http://maven.apache.org/reference/user-guide.html#Properties_Processing):

  The properties files in Maven are processed in the following order:

   *${project.home}/project.properties
   *   ${project.home}/build.properties
   *   ${user.home}/build.properties

  Where the last definition wins. So, Maven moves through this
sequence  of properties files overridding any previously defined 
properties with  newer definitions. In this sequence your 
${user.home}/build.properties  has the final say in the list of 
properties files processed. We will call the  list of properties 
files that Maven processes the standard properties file set.

  In addition, System properties are processed after the above chain
of  properties files are processed. So, a property specified on the 
CLI  using the -Dproperty=value convention will override any 
previous definition of that property.

So if you wanted to have it universally, you'd define this in 
${user.home}/build.properties but if it were just for a specific 
project, you'd define it in ${project.home}/build.properties

Did I answer the right question?

Joe
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Re: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Jeff Kyser
I have been extremely happy with IDEA on the MacOS X platform,
although Mac was a little late getting a jdk1.4 up and running.
I'm on Jaguar, have not migrated to Panther...

-jeff

On Monday, March 1, 2004, at 09:07  AM, Paul, R. Chip wrote:

I had been considering moving to MacOS X for a while now just because  
of
general windows frustration.  I was wondering how many issues, such as  
the
one below, there are in developing on a mac?  I've heard that Eclipse  
runs
much faster in Windows than on a Mac as well, and I don't know if their
Xcode environment can work with java.  The last time I was developing  
java
on a mac was about 8 years ago, I think we were using Codewarrior at  
the
time.

Are many people on the list developing java with MacOS, and which  
tools work
best on that platform?

-Original Message-
From: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:57 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build
available)

that lets me define the individual versions of *all* dependencies for
*all* projects so that I can say, for example, use *this* version of
commons-beanutils and *that* version of commons-digester to build
***all*** of the components that are going in to my overall exectable.
I am *so* not interested in dealing with runtime exceptions because
different dependent packages were compiled against different versions
of the dependent libraries.
Can someone please help me understand how to do this with Maven?
Without it, I'm not planning to switch any of my personal or
internal-to-Sun projects (even if the Struts committers decide to
switch Struts development itself).
This is actually pretty easy, if I understand you correctly.  If you
define the Maven property maven.jar.override to the value on,
then when resolving dependencies, Maven will check each against a
possibly defined override.
For example, the version of Cactus that everyone else in Struts uses
doesn't work on Mac OS X.  The Cactus CVS head has the patch that
works, so in my Struts/maven environment, I have this defined:
maven.jar.override=on
# patched version of cactus related to Mac OS X:
# http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25266i
maven.jar.cactus-ant=1.6dev-2003-12-07
maven.jar.jakarta-cactus-framework=13-1.6dev
You can use full paths to JARs as well as version numbers.  This is
detailed here:
http://maven.apache.org/reference/user- 
guide.html#Overriding_Stated_Dependen
cies

Properties are defined like so:
(http://maven.apache.org/reference/user- 
guide.html#Properties_Processing):

 The properties files in Maven are processed in the following order:

*${project.home}/project.properties
*   ${project.home}/build.properties
*   ${user.home}/build.properties
 Where the last definition wins. So, Maven moves through this
sequence  of properties files overridding any previously defined
properties with  newer definitions. In this sequence your
${user.home}/build.properties  has the final say in the list of
properties files processed. We will call the  list of properties
files that Maven processes the standard properties file set.
 In addition, System properties are processed after the above chain
of  properties files are processed. So, a property specified on the
CLI  using the -Dproperty=value convention will override any
previous definition of that property.
So if you wanted to have it universally, you'd define this in
${user.home}/build.properties but if it were just for a specific
project, you'd define it in ${project.home}/build.properties
Did I answer the right question?

Joe
--
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RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Nguyen, Hien
I'm using Panther (OS X 10.3) with Eclipse, tomcat, mySQL and things are
working perfectly fine.  The latest JDK on OS X is 1.4.2.  


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))


I have been extremely happy with IDEA on the MacOS X platform, although Mac
was a little late getting a jdk1.4 up and running.

I'm on Jaguar, have not migrated to Panther...

-jeff

On Monday, March 1, 2004, at 09:07  AM, Paul, R. Chip wrote:

 I had been considering moving to MacOS X for a while now just because
 of
 general windows frustration.  I was wondering how many issues, such as  
 the
 one below, there are in developing on a mac?  I've heard that Eclipse  
 runs
 much faster in Windows than on a Mac as well, and I don't know if their
 Xcode environment can work with java.  The last time I was developing  
 java
 on a mac was about 8 years ago, I think we were using Codewarrior at  
 the
 time.

 Are many people on the list developing java with MacOS, and which
 tools work
 best on that platform?


 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:57 AM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build
 available)


 that lets me define the individual versions of *all* dependencies for
 *all* projects so that I can say, for example, use *this* version of
 commons-beanutils and *that* version of commons-digester to build
 ***all*** of the components that are going in to my overall exectable.
 I am *so* not interested in dealing with runtime exceptions because
 different dependent packages were compiled against different versions
 of the dependent libraries.

 Can someone please help me understand how to do this with Maven?
 Without it, I'm not planning to switch any of my personal or
 internal-to-Sun projects (even if the Struts committers decide to
 switch Struts development itself).

 This is actually pretty easy, if I understand you correctly.  If you
 define the Maven property maven.jar.override to the value on,
 then when resolving dependencies, Maven will check each against a
 possibly defined override.

 For example, the version of Cactus that everyone else in Struts uses
 doesn't work on Mac OS X.  The Cactus CVS head has the patch that
 works, so in my Struts/maven environment, I have this defined:

 maven.jar.override=on
 # patched version of cactus related to Mac OS X:
 # http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25266i
 maven.jar.cactus-ant=1.6dev-2003-12-07
 maven.jar.jakarta-cactus-framework=13-1.6dev

 You can use full paths to JARs as well as version numbers.  This is
 detailed here:
 http://maven.apache.org/reference/user- 
 guide.html#Overriding_Stated_Dependen
 cies

 Properties are defined like so:
 (http://maven.apache.org/reference/user- 
 guide.html#Properties_Processing):

  The properties files in Maven are processed in the following order:

  *${project.home}/project.properties
  *   ${project.home}/build.properties
  *   ${user.home}/build.properties

  Where the last definition wins. So, Maven moves through this
 sequence  of properties files overridding any previously defined
 properties with  newer definitions. In this sequence your
 ${user.home}/build.properties  has the final say in the list of
 properties files processed. We will call the  list of properties
 files that Maven processes the standard properties file set.

  In addition, System properties are processed after the above chain
 of  properties files are processed. So, a property specified on the
 CLI  using the -Dproperty=value convention will override any
 previous definition of that property.

 So if you wanted to have it universally, you'd define this in
 ${user.home}/build.properties but if it were just for a specific
 project, you'd define it in ${project.home}/build.properties

 Did I answer the right question?

 Joe
 -- 
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Re: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Mark Lowe
I use xcode on osx and personally i prefer it to those swing based 
things, (although IDEA I hear is in a class of its own).

Xcode isn't as bigger leap at apple would have you believe I had 
project builder doing the same sorts of things with ant. But its quite 
nice that all the basics are there (JBoss-tomcat, ant, xdoclet) and you 
can create you own templates.

Does all you need without messing with your stuff too much like eclipse.

Its a different kettle of fish to the old java development on MacOS 
that you mentioned.

On 1 Mar 2004, at 16:45, Nguyen, Hien wrote:

I'm using Panther (OS X 10.3) with Eclipse, tomcat, mySQL and things 
are
working perfectly fine.  The latest JDK on OS X is 1.4.2.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven 
(was
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

I have been extremely happy with IDEA on the MacOS X platform, 
although Mac
was a little late getting a jdk1.4 up and running.

I'm on Jaguar, have not migrated to Panther...

-jeff

On Monday, March 1, 2004, at 09:07  AM, Paul, R. Chip wrote:

I had been considering moving to MacOS X for a while now just because
of
general windows frustration.  I was wondering how many issues, such as
the
one below, there are in developing on a mac?  I've heard that Eclipse
runs
much faster in Windows than on a Mac as well, and I don't know if 
their
Xcode environment can work with java.  The last time I was developing
java
on a mac was about 8 years ago, I think we were using Codewarrior at
the
time.

Are many people on the list developing java with MacOS, and which
tools work
best on that platform?
-Original Message-
From: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:57 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build
available)

that lets me define the individual versions of *all* dependencies for
*all* projects so that I can say, for example, use *this* version of
commons-beanutils and *that* version of commons-digester to build
***all*** of the components that are going in to my overall 
exectable.
I am *so* not interested in dealing with runtime exceptions because
different dependent packages were compiled against different versions
of the dependent libraries.

Can someone please help me understand how to do this with Maven?
Without it, I'm not planning to switch any of my personal or
internal-to-Sun projects (even if the Struts committers decide to
switch Struts development itself).
This is actually pretty easy, if I understand you correctly.  If you
define the Maven property maven.jar.override to the value on,
then when resolving dependencies, Maven will check each against a
possibly defined override.
For example, the version of Cactus that everyone else in Struts uses
doesn't work on Mac OS X.  The Cactus CVS head has the patch that
works, so in my Struts/maven environment, I have this defined:
maven.jar.override=on
# patched version of cactus related to Mac OS X:
# http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25266i
maven.jar.cactus-ant=1.6dev-2003-12-07
maven.jar.jakarta-cactus-framework=13-1.6dev
You can use full paths to JARs as well as version numbers.  This is
detailed here:
http://maven.apache.org/reference/user-
guide.html#Overriding_Stated_Dependen
cies
Properties are defined like so:
(http://maven.apache.org/reference/user-
guide.html#Properties_Processing):
 The properties files in Maven are processed in the following order:

*${project.home}/project.properties
*   ${project.home}/build.properties
*   ${user.home}/build.properties
 Where the last definition wins. So, Maven moves through this
sequence  of properties files overridding any previously defined
properties with  newer definitions. In this sequence your
${user.home}/build.properties  has the final say in the list of
properties files processed. We will call the  list of properties
files that Maven processes the standard properties file set.
 In addition, System properties are processed after the above chain
of  properties files are processed. So, a property specified on the
CLI  using the -Dproperty=value convention will override any
previous definition of that property.
So if you wanted to have it universally, you'd define this in
${user.home}/build.properties but if it were just for a specific
project, you'd define it in ${project.home}/build.properties
Did I answer the right question?

Joe
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Andy Engle
Nguyen, Hien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm using Panther (OS X 10.3) with Eclipse, tomcat, mySQL and things
 are working perfectly fine.  The latest JDK on OS X is 1.4.2.

Same here.  I like it all pretty well, but the only minor drawback is
that sometimes I think the Eclipse interface in OS X is a little
clunky.  But that's just with Eclipse -- you might find that other IDEs
aren't that way.  All the other great features of OS X definitely make
up for it though.

I don't see how you could go wrong with getting rid of your Windoze
setup.  And after how many hours I spent in a failed effort yesterday
trying to simply *install* XP on my in-laws computer, I'd encourage you
to!  I have no plans of ever going back to the Windoze world -- enough
of that pathetic junk is enough.


Feeling Like I Just Started Another OS Shouting Match,
Andy


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RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Andrew Hill
snip
Feeling Like I Just Started Another OS Shouting Match
/snip

Yeh, cos windows is like really really g00d. Yeh.
All us 133t [EMAIL PROTECTED] d00ds use it n' stuff. So dont be like putting it down
cos its totally  133t  and like .net will [EMAIL PROTECTED] owns linux and mac
soon. Yeh.


Ye gods! Mother warned me about staying up past bedtime. Looks like its all
true.
(Im outta here. Night all!)

;-

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From: Andy Engle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:24
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven
(was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))


Nguyen, Hien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm using Panther (OS X 10.3) with Eclipse, tomcat, mySQL and things
 are working perfectly fine.  The latest JDK on OS X is 1.4.2.

Same here.  I like it all pretty well, but the only minor drawback is
that sometimes I think the Eclipse interface in OS X is a little
clunky.  But that's just with Eclipse -- you might find that other IDEs
aren't that way.  All the other great features of OS X definitely make
up for it though.

I don't see how you could go wrong with getting rid of your Windoze
setup.  And after how many hours I spent in a failed effort yesterday
trying to simply *install* XP on my in-laws computer, I'd encourage you
to!  I have no plans of ever going back to the Windoze world -- enough
of that pathetic junk is enough.


Feeling Like I Just Started Another OS Shouting Match,
Andy


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Re: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Tarik El Berrak
hi
excuse me, can you tell me can i unsubscribe from this mailig list
thanks a lot
- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))


 snip
 Feeling Like I Just Started Another OS Shouting Match
 /snip

 Yeh, cos windows is like really really g00d. Yeh.
 All us 133t [EMAIL PROTECTED] d00ds use it n' stuff. So dont be like putting it down
 cos its totally  133t  and like .net will [EMAIL PROTECTED] owns linux and mac
 soon. Yeh.


 Ye gods! Mother warned me about staying up past bedtime. Looks like its
all
 true.
 (Im outta here. Night all!)

 ;-

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Engle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:24
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven
 (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))


 Nguyen, Hien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm using Panther (OS X 10.3) with Eclipse, tomcat, mySQL and things
  are working perfectly fine.  The latest JDK on OS X is 1.4.2.

 Same here.  I like it all pretty well, but the only minor drawback is
 that sometimes I think the Eclipse interface in OS X is a little
 clunky.  But that's just with Eclipse -- you might find that other IDEs
 aren't that way.  All the other great features of OS X definitely make
 up for it though.

 I don't see how you could go wrong with getting rid of your Windoze
 setup.  And after how many hours I spent in a failed effort yesterday
 trying to simply *install* XP on my in-laws computer, I'd encourage you
 to!  I have no plans of ever going back to the Windoze world -- enough
 of that pathetic junk is enough.


 Feeling Like I Just Started Another OS Shouting Match,
 Andy


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RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Mainguy, Mike
It's included at the bottom of every message...

An Obstacle is something you see when you take your eyes off the goal

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hi
excuse me, can you tell me can i unsubscribe from this mailig list thanks a
lot
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From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))


 snip
 Feeling Like I Just Started Another OS Shouting Match
 /snip

 Yeh, cos windows is like really really g00d. Yeh.
 All us 133t [EMAIL PROTECTED] d00ds use it n' stuff. So dont be like putting it 
 down cos its totally  133t  and like .net will [EMAIL PROTECTED] owns 
 linux and mac soon. Yeh.


 Ye gods! Mother warned me about staying up past bedtime. Looks like 
 its
all
 true.
 (Im outta here. Night all!)

 ;-

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Engle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:24
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven 
 (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))


 Nguyen, Hien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm using Panther (OS X 10.3) with Eclipse, tomcat, mySQL and things 
  are working perfectly fine.  The latest JDK on OS X is 1.4.2.

 Same here.  I like it all pretty well, but the only minor drawback is 
 that sometimes I think the Eclipse interface in OS X is a little 
 clunky.  But that's just with Eclipse -- you might find that other 
 IDEs aren't that way.  All the other great features of OS X definitely 
 make up for it though.

 I don't see how you could go wrong with getting rid of your Windoze 
 setup.  And after how many hours I spent in a failed effort yesterday 
 trying to simply *install* XP on my in-laws computer, I'd encourage 
 you to!  I have no plans of ever going back to the Windoze world -- 
 enough of that pathetic junk is enough.


 Feeling Like I Just Started Another OS Shouting Match,
 Andy


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Re: [OT] MacOS X Java/Struts development (was RE: [OT] Maven (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.0 Test Build available))

2004-03-01 Thread Tim Coy
I have been doing Struts projects on Mac OS X (currently Panther) for nearly
2 years now using Eclipse/Dreamweaver/Ant etc
I like it. Most of my associate developers using windows on the same
projects seem to wish they had a mac to work with.

Java on the Mac has come a long way in 8 years.

Just be prepared for different frustrations :-)



 I had been considering moving to MacOS X for a while now just because of
 general windows frustration.  I was wondering how many issues, such as the
 one below, there are in developing on a mac?  I've heard that Eclipse runs
 much faster in Windows than on a Mac as well, and I don't know if their
 Xcode environment can work with java.  The last time I was developing java
 on a mac was about 8 years ago, I think we were using Codewarrior at the
 time.
 
 Are many people on the list developing java with MacOS, and which tools work
 best on that platform?
 
 
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