RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-18 Thread Au-Yeung, Stella H
Amin:
Yes we have have multiple users using sqlplus and everything works ok. SO
the database is find.  Somehow, the I think the problem is either in the JVM
provided with Weblogic or the Oracle drivers because even though the oracle
connections are ideled, they cannot be reused.   Can you tell me what do you
mean by  'hibernate' site. Are you referring to the Oracle site?

Regards,
Stella Auyeung
EDS Digital Enablement - Saginaw
6200 State Street, Suite 1
Saginaw,  MI  48603

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From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:07 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


Is your oracle database configured properly? Try connecting multiple
users using oem or sqlplus to rule out is the issue is from the
database. I had a max cursor reached error before which was attributed
to not closing the preparedstatement. Another thing you may try is to
use the latest JDBC drivers. There are some issues with 9.0.3 and below
drivers, found out on hibernate site.

Amin

-Original Message-
From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:52 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
troubleshoot the problem?

Thanks
Stella


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RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-18 Thread Au-Yeung, Stella H
Matt:
You mentioned the following:
 Garbage collection does not release database connections.

IN that case, do you know who releases the connections and make it available
for re-use after conn.close() has been done.  It sounds like you must have
read from somewhere that said GC doesn't release connections.

Stella


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From: Sgarlata Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:56 PM
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You should investigate using connection pooling, such as is offered by the
DBCP project, which is a Jakarta Commons subproject.  Garbage collection
does not release database connections.  I'm not sure on all the details why
not, but there are other reasons to use connection pooling such as
performance.
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From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:52 PM
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


 I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
 application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
 available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection, I
 am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
 it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
 'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
 those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
 connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

 So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
 connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
 be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
 troubleshoot the problem?

 Thanks
 Stella


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Re: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-18 Thread Sgarlata Matt
Hi again Stella,

Let me start by saying that I am also using Struts and Oracle, so we have a
similar setup.  We were experiencing the same problems you were experiencing
until we set up connection pooling.  I highly recommend that you develop
your app using the org.apache.commons.dbcp.AbandonedObjectPool because it is
the only way to make sure you are dealing with connections correctly.  To
use connections properly you must close them when you are done and this
class makes sure you do, otherwise it starts throwing exceptions.  For more
information, see

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/jndi-datasource-examples-howto.html#Database%20Connection%20Pool%20(DBCP)%20Configurations

in the section called Preventing db connection pool leaks.  For production
we are using the pool that comes with Oracle's application server, release
2.  Also, additional comments to your specific questions are below.
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


 Matt:
 You mentioned the following:
  Garbage collection does not release database connections.

 IN that case, do you know who releases the connections and make it
available
 for re-use after conn.close() has been done.  It sounds like you must have
 read from somewhere that said GC doesn't release connections.

To the best of my knowledge conn.close() should close the connection so that
it no longer displays as a used connection in Oracle.  However, if your app
is like mine probably a dozen or so connections are opened for each Action
that is performed, so it's hard to ensure you are closing all connections
correctly.  This is where the AbandonedObjectPool I discussed earlier comes
into play.  The GC won't call conn.close() for you, and you probably just
forgot to close connections in a few places.  Even after practicing for
weeks I still forget to close connections weekly and AbandonedObjectPool
comes to the rescue :)

 Stella


 -Original Message-
 From: Sgarlata Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:56 PM
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 Subject: Re: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


 You should investigate using connection pooling, such as is offered by the
 DBCP project, which is a Jakarta Commons subproject.  Garbage collection
 does not release database connections.  I'm not sure on all the details
why
 not, but there are other reasons to use connection pooling such as
 performance.
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 From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:52 PM
 Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


  I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
  application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
  available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
  am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
 tool,
  it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
 the
  'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
 reusing
  those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
  connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?
 
  So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
 those
  connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
 to
  be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
  troubleshoot the problem?
 
  Thanks
  Stella
 
 
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RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-18 Thread Yee, Richard K,,DMDCWEST
Matt,
 However, if your app is like mine probably a dozen or so connections are
opened for each Action that is
 performed, so it's hard to ensure you are closing all connections
correctly. 

Do you really have that many nested result sets? If not, then you could
reuse the same connections for some of your queries.

Reagards,

Richard

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From: Sgarlata Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:26 AM
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Subject: Re: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


Hi again Stella,

Let me start by saying that I am also using Struts and Oracle, so we have a
similar setup.  We were experiencing the same problems you were experiencing
until we set up connection pooling.  I highly recommend that you develop
your app using the org.apache.commons.dbcp.AbandonedObjectPool because it is
the only way to make sure you are dealing with connections correctly.  To
use connections properly you must close them when you are done and this
class makes sure you do, otherwise it starts throwing exceptions.  For more
information, see

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/jndi-datasource-examples-how
to.html#Database%20Connection%20Pool%20(DBCP)%20Configurations

in the section called Preventing db connection pool leaks.  For production
we are using the pool that comes with Oracle's application server, release
2.  Also, additional comments to your specific questions are below.
- Original Message - 
From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


 Matt:
 You mentioned the following:
  Garbage collection does not release database connections.

 IN that case, do you know who releases the connections and make it
available
 for re-use after conn.close() has been done.  It sounds like you must 
 have read from somewhere that said GC doesn't release connections.

To the best of my knowledge conn.close() should close the connection so that
it no longer displays as a used connection in Oracle.  However, if your app
is like mine probably a dozen or so connections are opened for each Action
that is performed, so it's hard to ensure you are closing all connections
correctly.  This is where the AbandonedObjectPool I discussed earlier comes
into play.  The GC won't call conn.close() for you, and you probably just
forgot to close connections in a few places.  Even after practicing for
weeks I still forget to close connections weekly and AbandonedObjectPool
comes to the rescue :)

 Stella


 -Original Message-
 From: Sgarlata Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:56 PM
 To: Struts Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


 You should investigate using connection pooling, such as is offered by 
 the DBCP project, which is a Jakarta Commons subproject.  Garbage 
 collection does not release database connections.  I'm not sure on all 
 the details
why
 not, but there are other reasons to use connection pooling such as 
 performance.
 - Original Message -
 From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:52 PM
 Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


  I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
  application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
  available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
  am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
 tool,
  it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will 
  give
 the
  'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
 reusing
  those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
  connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?
 
  So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't 
  release
 those
  connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually 
  available
 to
  be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to 
  troubleshoot the problem?
 
  Thanks
  Stella
 
 
  
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RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-18 Thread Mohd Amin Mohd Din
http://hibernate.bluemars.net/80.html

-Original Message-
From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 12:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

Amin:
Yes we have have multiple users using sqlplus and everything works ok.
SO
the database is find.  Somehow, the I think the problem is either in the
JVM
provided with Weblogic or the Oracle drivers because even though the
oracle
connections are ideled, they cannot be reused.   Can you tell me what do
you
mean by  'hibernate' site. Are you referring to the Oracle site?

Regards,
Stella Auyeung
EDS Digital Enablement - Saginaw
6200 State Street, Suite 1
Saginaw,  MI  48603

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-Original Message-
From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:07 PM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


Is your oracle database configured properly? Try connecting multiple
users using oem or sqlplus to rule out is the issue is from the
database. I had a max cursor reached error before which was attributed
to not closing the preparedstatement. Another thing you may try is to
use the latest JDBC drivers. There are some issues with 9.0.3 and below
drivers, found out on hibernate site.

Amin

-Original Message-
From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:52 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
troubleshoot the problem?

Thanks
Stella


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Re: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-17 Thread Sgarlata Matt
You should investigate using connection pooling, such as is offered by the
DBCP project, which is a Jakarta Commons subproject.  Garbage collection
does not release database connections.  I'm not sure on all the details why
not, but there are other reasons to use connection pooling such as
performance.
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From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:52 PM
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem


 I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
 application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
 available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection, I
 am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
 it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
 'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
 those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
 connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

 So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
 connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
 be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
 troubleshoot the problem?

 Thanks
 Stella


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RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-17 Thread Mohd Amin Mohd Din
Is your oracle database configured properly? Try connecting multiple
users using oem or sqlplus to rule out is the issue is from the
database. I had a max cursor reached error before which was attributed
to not closing the preparedstatement. Another thing you may try is to
use the latest JDBC drivers. There are some issues with 9.0.3 and below
drivers, found out on hibernate site.

Amin

-Original Message-
From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:52 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
troubleshoot the problem?

Thanks
Stella


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RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-17 Thread hari_s
I think you should try toplink from oracle for your connection to
database.

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
troubleshoot the problem?

Thanks
Stella


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RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-17 Thread Viral_Thakkar
Hi hari,

Could you provide some more info on using the toplink w.r.t to struts,
EJB and oracle database.

I would like to see few lines of toplink code.

Thanks,
Viral

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I think you should try toplink from oracle for your connection to
database.

-Original Message-
From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
troubleshoot the problem?

Thanks
Stella


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RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

2003-09-17 Thread hari_s

You can see more documentation about toplink here.

www.otn.oracle.com\products\ias\toplink

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:37 AM
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Hi hari,

Could you provide some more info on using the toplink w.r.t to struts,
EJB and oracle database.

I would like to see few lines of toplink code.

Thanks,
Viral

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From: hari_s [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

I think you should try toplink from oracle for your connection to
database.

-Original Message-
From: Au-Yeung, Stella H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Tool to diagnose J2EE/Struts/Oracle problem

I am havng a No resource Available problem with my J2EE/Struts/Oracle
application.   It is saying I don't have any more Oracle connections
available.   Even I am closing the result set, statement and connection,
I
am still running into the problem.   When I use the Oracle DBA monitor
tool,
it shows that I have 10 'inactive' connection but then my app will give
the
'no resource available' error.   So it looks like somehow it is not
reusing
those inactive connections.   Does Gabage Collection release those
connections?  Does anyone have this problem before?

So I am looking for a better 'tool' to find out why GC doesn't release
those
connections or if those 10 'inactive' connections are actually available
to
be re-used.  Can someone give me a suggestion on this tool or how to
troubleshoot the problem?

Thanks
Stella


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