Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:06, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 17:07, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sugar-emulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-emulator, line 22, in module from emulator import main File /usr/share/sugar/shell/emulator.py, line 31, in module from sugar import env ImportError: No module named sugar Edward, this is not a Sugar problem, please ask about it on the sugar-ubuntu mailing list. We need a Wiki page with a detailed statement of which bugs and support questions go on which lists. I think that the current setup works fine for the developers working in each of the projects involved, but is hopeless for others, especially newcomers. I agree. I'm not sure where such a page should go - on the supported systems page? On the page for each distro? The plan for Ubuntu is that you should log bugs in the Ubuntu bugtracker, https://launchpad.net - for example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar for Sugar itself. Please log your issue there so we can track it. In any case, how did you install sugar, exactly? It works fine for me on a fresh intrepid install. I had Sugar installed, and I upgraded to Intrepid. There was one dependency error that required me to do a manual package installation, replacing sugar-datastore with python-olpc-datastore, IIRC. That is a known issue which still needs fixing, ubuntu-sugarteam... Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
I think the distro-specific issues should be delegated to the individual distro pages. The Supported Systems page is a bit of a tangle right now. Anyone have time to do a reorg? -walter On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:06, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 17:07, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sugar-emulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-emulator, line 22, in module from emulator import main File /usr/share/sugar/shell/emulator.py, line 31, in module from sugar import env ImportError: No module named sugar Edward, this is not a Sugar problem, please ask about it on the sugar-ubuntu mailing list. We need a Wiki page with a detailed statement of which bugs and support questions go on which lists. I think that the current setup works fine for the developers working in each of the projects involved, but is hopeless for others, especially newcomers. I agree. I'm not sure where such a page should go - on the supported systems page? On the page for each distro? The plan for Ubuntu is that you should log bugs in the Ubuntu bugtracker, https://launchpad.net - for example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar for Sugar itself. Please log your issue there so we can track it. In any case, how did you install sugar, exactly? It works fine for me on a fresh intrepid install. I had Sugar installed, and I upgraded to Intrepid. There was one dependency error that required me to do a manual package installation, replacing sugar-datastore with python-olpc-datastore, IIRC. That is a known issue which still needs fixing, ubuntu-sugarteam... Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
Perhaps address how Activity authors might need to handle / work around the different distro specifics on one page, unless the goal is to have different activity releases per distro. On 11/27/08, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the distro-specific issues should be delegated to the individual distro pages. The Supported Systems page is a bit of a tangle right now. Anyone have time to do a reorg? -walter On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:06, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 17:07, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sugar-emulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-emulator, line 22, in module from emulator import main File /usr/share/sugar/shell/emulator.py, line 31, in module from sugar import env ImportError: No module named sugar Edward, this is not a Sugar problem, please ask about it on the sugar-ubuntu mailing list. We need a Wiki page with a detailed statement of which bugs and support questions go on which lists. I think that the current setup works fine for the developers working in each of the projects involved, but is hopeless for others, especially newcomers. I agree. I'm not sure where such a page should go - on the supported systems page? On the page for each distro? The plan for Ubuntu is that you should log bugs in the Ubuntu bugtracker, https://launchpad.net - for example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar for Sugar itself. Please log your issue there so we can track it. In any case, how did you install sugar, exactly? It works fine for me on a fresh intrepid install. I had Sugar installed, and I upgraded to Intrepid. There was one dependency error that required me to do a manual package installation, replacing sugar-datastore with python-olpc-datastore, IIRC. That is a known issue which still needs fixing, ubuntu-sugarteam... Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps address how Activity authors might need to handle / work around the different distro specifics on one page, unless the goal is to have different activity releases per distro. We think that most of the distro specifics are packaging problems, specifically missing or incorrect dependencies. So they should be reported to the distro concerned, except when, on investigation, some deeper error surfaces. In this case, we have at least two dependency problems. o sugar.py or something like that didn't get installed o sugar-datastore should have been removed automatically, and python-olpc-datastore installed. It is possible that correcting these errors will allow others to appear. There is also an issue with etcinsvk, which does not configure correctly, and keeps popping up to report its problem during other installs that modify anything in the /etc directory. The next question is the workaround for each of these problems. If I can find out where sugar.py should go, and can get a copy, I can possibly get Sugar running. The datastores can be dealt with manually using the normal apt mechanism. The etcinsvk problem is fixed for Jaunty, and the bug asks for somebody to backport it. On 11/27/08, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the distro-specific issues should be delegated to the individual distro pages. The Supported Systems page is a bit of a tangle right now. Anyone have time to do a reorg? +1 -walter On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:06, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 17:07, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sugar-emulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-emulator, line 22, in module from emulator import main File /usr/share/sugar/shell/emulator.py, line 31, in module from sugar import env ImportError: No module named sugar Edward, this is not a Sugar problem, please ask about it on the sugar-ubuntu mailing list. We need a Wiki page with a detailed statement of which bugs and support questions go on which lists. I think that the current setup works fine for the developers working in each of the projects involved, but is hopeless for others, especially newcomers. I agree. I'm not sure where such a page should go - on the supported systems page? On the page for each distro? The plan for Ubuntu is that you should log bugs in the Ubuntu bugtracker, https://launchpad.net - for example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar for Sugar itself. Please log your issue there so we can track it. In any case, how did you install sugar, exactly? It works fine for me on a fresh intrepid install. I had Sugar installed, and I upgraded to Intrepid. There was one dependency error that required me to do a manual package installation, replacing sugar-datastore with python-olpc-datastore, IIRC. That is a known issue which still needs fixing, ubuntu-sugarteam... Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 13:52, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps address how Activity authors might need to handle / work around the different distro specifics on one page, unless the goal is to have different activity releases per distro. We think that most of the distro specifics are packaging problems, specifically missing or incorrect dependencies. So they should be reported to the distro concerned, except when, on investigation, some deeper error surfaces. In this case, we have at least two dependency problems. o sugar.py or something like that didn't get installed Sugar-on-ubuntu (fresh intrepid install) works for Morgan and myself, as well as various other testers, so the problem is most likely one of local configuration. Please try the following: # sudo apt-get purge sugar sugar-\* # sudo apt-get install sugar sugar-activities sugar-emulator o sugar-datastore should have been removed automatically, and python-olpc-datastore installed. You've worked around that one, and it's been reported. -lf ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sugar-emulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-emulator, line 22, in module from emulator import main File /usr/share/sugar/shell/emulator.py, line 31, in module from sugar import env ImportError: No module named sugar -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 17:07, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sugar-emulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-emulator, line 22, in module from emulator import main File /usr/share/sugar/shell/emulator.py, line 31, in module from sugar import env ImportError: No module named sugar Edward, this is not a Sugar problem, please ask about it on the sugar-ubuntu mailing list. In any case, how did you install sugar, exactly? It works fine for me on a fresh intrepid install. Please provide more details. -lf ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 17:07, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sugar-emulator Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-emulator, line 22, in module from emulator import main File /usr/share/sugar/shell/emulator.py, line 31, in module from sugar import env ImportError: No module named sugar Edward, this is not a Sugar problem, please ask about it on the sugar-ubuntu mailing list. We need a Wiki page with a detailed statement of which bugs and support questions go on which lists. I think that the current setup works fine for the developers working in each of the projects involved, but is hopeless for others, especially newcomers. In any case, how did you install sugar, exactly? It works fine for me on a fresh intrepid install. I had Sugar installed, and I upgraded to Intrepid. There was one dependency error that required me to do a manual package installation, replacing sugar-datastore with python-olpc-datastore, IIRC. Please provide more details. -lf -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
