[Sugar-devel] squeak in debian
Is it squeak and etoys that we are missing from debian? They now seem to be available in lenny. http://packages.debian.org/lenny/etoys http://packages.debian.org/lenny/squeak-vm david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Call Activity
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 18:58, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira rodrigopad...@projetofedora.org wrote: Hello Guys! How can i call an activity from shell ? You can see here how the shell resumes or starts an activity: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py#line528 Is possible to call a activity from a html page ? How can i do that ? With security enabled, it's not possible. Without security, you can handle the event with pyxpcom and then launch the activity in exactly the same way as the shell. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [olpc-nz] Hints for a Sugar dev intro?
I've been doing my best to collect information on getting started here. http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources Note that it's focused on activity development. -Wade On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: The Wellington Testers team has been asking me for an intro to programming Sugar. So far, my strategy was to flee the country, but that trick's getting old... So I've been wondering - what materials would you suggest for a fast-track into Sugar development workshop. I am thinking of 2 half-day sessions, one focused on the Sugar stack and the second one on activity creation. The welly testers get together once a week, for ~4hs -- so that limits the format in this case. I won't be the best guy to deliver it, but I'll try. I understand the XO stack fairly well, but I'm not a Sugar dev, so patchy in some areas. There's an active python UG in Welly, so maybe they want to be part of it too. Outcomes • more devs knowing Sugar stack and activities == more patches, more activities? • more expert testers... • resulting materials and sliderware • video of the session - also freely licensed Now that I think of it, it'd be great to do it in Spanish, and circulate it in Uy. Sadly, I don't have a spanish-speaking audience in Welly. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ olpc-nz mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-nz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] infrastructure mailing list
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a developer who has been unable to push to Gitorious using his SSH key. It was working two weeks ago, then suddenly stopped. We have sent emails to Bernie but have not gotten any real attention to the issue. Can there be a mailing list for infrastructure support requests? We have tried everything we can think of, including reinstalling his VM from scratch and re-uploading his public key. We do, it's systems at lists dot laptop dot org. (private, messages are subject to moderation, simply ask to be CC'd if you're making a inquiry) However, the best way to contact us is via IRC. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] infrastructure mailing list
who has access to that list? can we have a public infrastructure discussion list for issues such as this one? --SJ On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a developer who has been unable to push to Gitorious using his SSH key. It was working two weeks ago, then suddenly stopped. We have sent emails to Bernie but have not gotten any real attention to the issue. Can there be a mailing list for infrastructure support requests? We have tried everything we can think of, including reinstalling his VM from scratch and re-uploading his public key. We do, it's systems at lists dot laptop dot org. (private, messages are subject to moderation, simply ask to be CC'd if you're making a inquiry) However, the best way to contact us is via IRC. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] infrastructure mailing list
Thanks for the information, Luke. Note that this is an issue with Sugar Labs' Gitorious, not dev.laptop.org. If the problem persists though, we might have to switch development *back* to d.l.o temporarily :) -Wade On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: who has access to that list? can we have a public infrastructure discussion list for issues such as this one? --SJ On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a developer who has been unable to push to Gitorious using his SSH key. It was working two weeks ago, then suddenly stopped. We have sent emails to Bernie but have not gotten any real attention to the issue. Can there be a mailing list for infrastructure support requests? We have tried everything we can think of, including reinstalling his VM from scratch and re-uploading his public key. We do, it's systems at lists dot laptop dot org. (private, messages are subject to moderation, simply ask to be CC'd if you're making a inquiry) However, the best way to contact us is via IRC. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] infrastructure mailing list
Oops, I meant @lists.sugarlabs.org :) Sj, we discuss some private security issues on this list, it's our current analog to sysad...@l.o with RT. -LF On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:42, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the information, Luke. Note that this is an issue with Sugar Labs' Gitorious, not dev.laptop.org. If the problem persists though, we might have to switch development *back* to d.l.o temporarily :) -Wade On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: who has access to that list? can we have a public infrastructure discussion list for issues such as this one? --SJ On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a developer who has been unable to push to Gitorious using his SSH key. It was working two weeks ago, then suddenly stopped. We have sent emails to Bernie but have not gotten any real attention to the issue. Can there be a mailing list for infrastructure support requests? We have tried everything we can think of, including reinstalling his VM from scratch and re-uploading his public key. We do, it's systems at lists dot laptop dot org. (private, messages are subject to moderation, simply ask to be CC'd if you're making a inquiry) However, the best way to contact us is via IRC. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [olpc-nz] Hints for a Sugar dev intro?
We are planning a Documentation Jam in Uruguay for late February. I think Wade's page is an excellent starting point but we want to do it in Spanish and to write it from our own experience. Many of us started almost from scratch and we want to reflect on the learning curve and get to the essentials so new people can join in with less effort. We have very little experience with Sugar itself. We want to focus at this stage on activities, so we plan to cover things like Python, PyGtk, Cairo, Pango, Pygame, bundling, using git, using trac, using pot files, collaboration, datastore, etc. If you have any new materials or comments, they would be much apprecited. Regards, Gabriel 2009/1/26 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I've been doing my best to collect information on getting started here. http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources Note that it's focused on activity development. -Wade On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: The Wellington Testers team has been asking me for an intro to programming Sugar. So far, my strategy was to flee the country, but that trick's getting old... So I've been wondering - what materials would you suggest for a fast-track into Sugar development workshop. I am thinking of 2 half-day sessions, one focused on the Sugar stack and the second one on activity creation. The welly testers get together once a week, for ~4hs -- so that limits the format in this case. I won't be the best guy to deliver it, but I'll try. I understand the XO stack fairly well, but I'm not a Sugar dev, so patchy in some areas. There's an active python UG in Welly, so maybe they want to be part of it too. Outcomes • more devs knowing Sugar stack and activities == more patches, more activities? • more expert testers... • resulting materials and sliderware • video of the session - also freely licensed Now that I think of it, it'd be great to do it in Spanish, and circulate it in Uy. Sadly, I don't have a spanish-speaking audience in Welly. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ olpc-nz mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-nz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pippy not ready for Sucrose
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, the Sucrose package of Pippy is version 25 - when I last released it back in August. Since then there has been some development going into Pippy (now version 30) http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/pippy-activity;a=shortlog But none of the maintainers did follow the Sucrose release cycle, even though I sent a reminder http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-November/010021.html Any, specific reason for that? Pippy has not been moved to git.sugarlabs.org, as well. please indicate clearly: * if you still want to be part of Sucrose (including following the release cycle) * any new maintainer that is willing to do this task if you does not want to * any issues/reasons you have to do so Best, Simon To follow up on this, I mainly want to find a maintainer for Pippy for Sucrose. If there is no one willing to do that we drop it, which is ok - one can still download the xo etc, I just want a clearer situation. Hi, I will maintain Pippy for Sucrose, though I may need a bit of hand holding. Please let me know if what I did seems correct (esp. step 2): 1. l got the most recent version of Pippy from git git-clone git://dev.laptop.org/projects/pippy-activity cd pippy-activity 2. ./setup.py gave a bunch of invalid entry in MANIFEST errors about different locales, so I ran: ./setup.py fix_manifest 3. ./setup.py dist_source 4. I asked a crank sysadmin to add me to the Sugar group, And I moved Pippy-30.tar.bz2 to: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/Pippy/Pippy-30.tar.bz2 (805K) I will move pippy over to git.sugarlabs.org as well. Thanks, Brian Wade, do you have maybe someone in mind? Cheers, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] infrastructure mailing list
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a developer who has been unable to push to Gitorious using his SSH key. It was working two weeks ago, then suddenly stopped. We have sent emails to Bernie but have not gotten any real attention to the issue. Can there be a mailing list for infrastructure support requests? We have tried everything we can think of, including reinstalling his VM from scratch and re-uploading his public key. We really need an infrastructure squad... I *think* this is an osuosl problem, so you might want to mail the following address with the details. OSL Support support at osuosl.org Marco ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [olpc-nz] Hints for a Sugar dev intro?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I've been doing my best to collect information on getting started here. http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources Note that it's focused on activity development. This looks pretty good, Wade. Thanks for putting it together! I don't think we have anything like this about the Sugar core. I'll try to put something together. Marco ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pippy not ready for Sucrose
Awesome, thank you Brian for stepping up! Is something additional required in order to make sure the activity runs properly in SoaS or jhbuild? -Wade On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Brian Jordan br...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, the Sucrose package of Pippy is version 25 - when I last released it back in August. Since then there has been some development going into Pippy (now version 30) http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/pippy-activity;a=shortlog But none of the maintainers did follow the Sucrose release cycle, even though I sent a reminder http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-November/010021.html Any, specific reason for that? Pippy has not been moved to git.sugarlabs.org, as well. please indicate clearly: * if you still want to be part of Sucrose (including following the release cycle) * any new maintainer that is willing to do this task if you does not want to * any issues/reasons you have to do so Best, Simon To follow up on this, I mainly want to find a maintainer for Pippy for Sucrose. If there is no one willing to do that we drop it, which is ok - one can still download the xo etc, I just want a clearer situation. Hi, I will maintain Pippy for Sucrose, though I may need a bit of hand holding. Please let me know if what I did seems correct (esp. step 2): 1. l got the most recent version of Pippy from git git-clone git://dev.laptop.org/projects/pippy-activity cd pippy-activity 2. ./setup.py gave a bunch of invalid entry in MANIFEST errors about different locales, so I ran: ./setup.py fix_manifest 3. ./setup.py dist_source 4. I asked a crank sysadmin to add me to the Sugar group, And I moved Pippy-30.tar.bz2 to: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/Pippy/Pippy-30.tar.bz2 (805K) I will move pippy over to git.sugarlabs.org as well. Thanks, Brian Wade, do you have maybe someone in mind? Cheers, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] infrastructure mailing list
Ok, I forwarded the thread on to all suggested lists. Hopefully it will be resolved soon. -Wade On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a developer who has been unable to push to Gitorious using his SSH key. It was working two weeks ago, then suddenly stopped. We have sent emails to Bernie but have not gotten any real attention to the issue. Can there be a mailing list for infrastructure support requests? We have tried everything we can think of, including reinstalling his VM from scratch and re-uploading his public key. We really need an infrastructure squad... I *think* this is an osuosl problem, so you might want to mail the following address with the details. OSL Support support at osuosl.org Marco ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] infrastructure mailing list
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a developer who has been unable to push to Gitorious using his SSH key. It was working two weeks ago, then suddenly stopped. We have sent emails to Bernie but have not gotten any real attention to the issue. Can there be a mailing list for infrastructure support requests? We have tried everything we can think of, including reinstalling his VM from scratch and re-uploading his public key. We really need an infrastructure squad... I *think* this is an osuosl problem, so you might want to mail the following address with the details. OSL Support support at osuosl.org All the OSL admins also hang on #osuosl. I think I know what it is: OSL has a weekly cleanup script that repacks the repositories. Last week, it left a few root owned files around. I thought it was fixed, but apparently not. I'll check and let you know. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] status of OLPC project
Bernie Innocenti wrote: [cc += sugar-de...@] Victor Lazzarini wrote: Thanks. Walter has kindly replied to me already, so it looks like sugar labs is my destination. Hope to be able to clear up all my marking by the end of next week and by then I think will also know where I actually fit into this new scheme of things. I'm happy to be back. Thanks a lot for helping! Oops, I didn't notice this was an 3 weeks old thread that had jumped back to the top due to Bastien's recent post. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] addons.mozilla.org - what needs to be done?
(ccing the dev list at Wade's request) Hiya, Tomeu - Wade said I should ask you what infrastructure work needs to be done to get addons.mozilla.org up and running. Could you point me towards logins/servers/existing work/trac tickets and help me get started? This afternoon was the first I'd heard about us using addons.mozilla.org, and it gets a huge +1 from me - I'd like to be able to use it for reviews/comments/tags during Activity testing at the Wellington testers meetup next Saturday, so let me know what I have to do to get it up before then. Thanks! --Mel excerpted IRC log, for backstory mchua cjb: is the idea to use the framework for addons.mozilla.org for sugar activities cjb yes, exactly cjb so, it's mainly for delivering .xos to laptops, as our wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities does now wadeb|w there are two different faces to each activity, the user face and the developer face wadeb|w addons.sl.o is the user facing portal wadeb|w ie reviews of activities, comments, tags, hosting of .xo files wadeb|w gitorious and w.sl.o/ActivityTeam/ is the developer facing wadeb|w so, if we create per-activity wiki pages they're gonna be developer focused wadeb|w still, right now I'm down on per-activity anything as things tend to get lost mchua wadeb|w: so if there's any infrastructure work that I can do to help that have a place to go next weekend, I would love to wadeb|w we just need someone to find the time to finish it mchua wadeb|w: I have time, not sure if I have know-how. how can i find out? wadeb|w mchua: yeah, I'm pondering the best way to organize the data wadeb|w mchua: it's just some python-based webserver hacking afaik. mchua wadeb|w: ...that does sound like something I could do mchua wadeb|w: i've got to pop out for a bit, conf lunchtime - it sounds like we need the infrastucture up before we can do any of the per-activity data migration, and that addons.sl.org is the infrastructure that needs to go up, and so my first task should be to get that up? wadeb|w mchua: ok, ping tomeu for information on what needs to be done wadeb|w mchua: sounds like a plan wadeb|w mchua: it's our #1 activity infrastructure need right now ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
