Re: [Sugar-devel] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-20 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
 On 18 Feb 2009, at 15:04, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

 Hi,

 as the site is becoming more functional, we are in need of feedback
 before we direct there the masses.

 Could activity maintainers register and upload their last activity
 bundles? Please try to also upload at least one screenshot, the site
 will be much prettier that way ;)

 OK giving up for the night :-(

 I've merged and built a new moon-9 with aslroots very kind addition of
 resolution independent scaling code, but I can't get it uploaded to
 a.sl.org, I thought it was a Safari browser issue, so I tested with
 Firefox as well, but no luck. I get as far as:

http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers/addon/submit

 But the 'Get Started' button does nothing. Game over. Any hints
 welcome, but will need to wait until tomorrow for me wake up and try
 again.

I can confirm this. It's been happening to me as well.

Thanks,
Sayamindu


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Create a HTTP Cookie to authenticate with the Schoolserver (Martin Langhoff)

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM,  martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org

 Re-edit of the patch, based on Simon's merge to master.
 
 I cherry-picked Simon's patch, resovled minor conflicts, and edited as 
 follows:
 
  - all gconf references are gone
- grab jabber_server from the profile obj.
- check only jabber server - ignore backup_url
 
 I cross-diffed the two patches, and nothing else is happening there.
 It tests well in sending the cookie to the XS too :-)
 
 
 m

Awesome! Thanks. I will release later today. Sayamindu want to land his 
inline pdf patch and Daniel had one for language detection and 
propagating too.

Best,
Simon
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[Sugar-devel] Where to store non-Glucose activities ( Was: Moon-9, almost…)

2009-02-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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[sent again, cross-posted to the devel list]

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 07:17:29AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 03:48:56AM +, Gary C Martin wrote:
 P.S As a member of the ActivityTeam, I am rather embarrassed to have 
 to ask what I should now do with the Moon-9.tar.bz2 file that fell 
 out the back of ./setup dist_source (couldn't see any ActivityTeam 
 wiki suggestions for how to officially publish Activities other than 
 the links to addons). I'm not officially part of any (confusingly) 
 named, temporally aligned, carbohydrate molecular substrate, but am 
 very happy to provide the source code somewhere formal if it makes 
 distro packager lives easier.

think, the right place for honey activities is: 
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/

http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Activities_packaging#Publish_source_tarballs_for_each_release

Agreed: That's where I as a distributor would expect to find the best 
quality activities, even those not part of Glucose.

:-)


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Re: [Sugar-devel] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)

2009-02-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 22:18, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote:
 I wasn't available for a meeting today, so that's partially my fault.
 I'm trying to get back into the swing of things, though, and actually
 had the chance to meet with Christian today regarding starting up
 regular design meetings again.

 As our work on Sugar will be voluntary, we both feel that selecting a
 time on the weekends (or perhaps late evening, though naturally
 timezone complicates this) may allow us to attend regularly as we'd
 like to. Would this work for others with interest?  What days/times
 would be most suitable for everyone?

Weekends are not as good for me, but I definitely will be able to attend some.

Apart from Josh, Eduardo (HoboPrimate) is back giving us awesome
usability feedback and Gary is stepping up his contributions even more
by doing icons for Sugar. So we need to organize a bit all this new
energy that is coming into the design area ;)

See you soon,

Tomeu

 - Eben



 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Hi,

 no meeting today?

 Regards,

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 07:53, Elena of Valhalla
elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Oh, also users can review addons and rate then.

 But the reviews may be in languages that another user isn't able to
 read: having some easily localizable property to show is probably
 essential.

Yeah, addons already has some quite advanced localization features,
like showing different featured addons for different languages. That
makes me think that what is not yet implemented will be probably
accepted by upstream.

Regards,

Tomeu

 Anyway, +1 on the idea that activities should only use a few global
 sugar dependencies, or include what they need in the bundle, with
 proper safeguards for security.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 22:18, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote:
 I wasn't available for a meeting today, so that's partially my fault.
 I'm trying to get back into the swing of things, though, and actually
 had the chance to meet with Christian today regarding starting up
 regular design meetings again.

 As our work on Sugar will be voluntary, we both feel that selecting a
 time on the weekends (or perhaps late evening, though naturally
 timezone complicates this) may allow us to attend regularly as we'd
 like to. Would this work for others with interest?  What days/times
 would be most suitable for everyone?
 
 Weekends are not as good for me, but I definitely will be able to attend some.
 
 Apart from Josh, Eduardo (HoboPrimate) is back giving us awesome
 usability feedback and Gary is stepping up his contributions even more
 by doing icons for Sugar. So we need to organize a bit all this new
 energy that is coming into the design area ;)
 
 See you soon,
 
 Tomeu

+1, there is definitely a lot of energy.

Weekend is currently not as optimal for me neither, but I am sure we can 
find ways to communicate the outcome from those meetings tomeu or I can 
not attend. Might be worth anyhow - since we are an in time and space 
distributed crowd.

/me is so happy to see Sugar Labs progress on all fronts each day.

Thanks!
Simon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:49, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, it seems like a lot of the buttons on the site do nothing when clicked
 right now.  I just encountered the same problem.

Looking at it right now. It works in addons-devel, so I suspect that
the tricks for minimizing access to .js files are breaking production.

Tomeu

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com
 wrote:

 On 18 Feb 2009, at 15:04, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

  Hi,
 
  as the site is becoming more functional, we are in need of feedback
  before we direct there the masses.
 
  Could activity maintainers register and upload their last activity
  bundles? Please try to also upload at least one screenshot, the site
  will be much prettier that way ;)

 OK giving up for the night :-(

 I've merged and built a new moon-9 with aslroots very kind addition of
 resolution independent scaling code, but I can't get it uploaded to
 a.sl.org, I thought it was a Safari browser issue, so I tested with
 Firefox as well, but no luck. I get as far as:

http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers/addon/submit

 But the 'Get Started' button does nothing. Game over. Any hints
 welcome, but will need to wait until tomorrow for me wake up and try
 again.

 Regards
 --Gary

 P.S As a member of the ActivityTeam, I am rather embarrassed to have
 to ask what I should now do with the Moon-9.tar.bz2 file that fell out
 the back of ./setup dist_source (couldn't see any ActivityTeam wiki
 suggestions for how to officially publish Activities other than the
 links to addons). I'm not officially part of any (confusingly) named,
 temporally aligned, carbohydrate molecular substrate, but am very
 happy to provide the source code somewhere formal if it makes distro
 packager lives easier.

  Thanks,
 
  Tomeu
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[Sugar-devel] upload of activities fixed

2009-02-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi,

the file site/app/webroot/js/jquery.addons.min.js was empty, so lots
of javascript stuff wasn't working. Should be fine now.

Regards,

Tomeu
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[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Please update your activity info files for deprecated fields

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear activity developers,

there are two deprecated fields in the activity.info [1]

'service_name' is deprecated please use 'bundle-id' instead.

'class' is deprecated and you should use the 'exec' command instead. The 
reason for the switch is that the exec command follows better the 
general freedesktop standard [2]

The sooner you get this in the better. Deprecated things get dropped at 
some point, latest with the next major release (in this case 1.0) - you 
will be informed again of course.

Thanks,
Simon

[1] 
http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Almanac/Activity_Bundles#.info_file_format
[2] 
http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-0.9.3.html
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[Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

we did show a full license in the Control Panel before. The path was 
hard coded to where OLPC had placed the GPL license. What can we do to 
meet the expectations of all the distributions that want to ship sugar?

Thanks for inputs on this,
Simon

http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/357
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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Chat-63

2009-02-20 Thread Morgan Collett
== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Chat/Chat-63.tar.bz2

== NEWS ==

Translation update
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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Read-64

2009-02-20 Thread Morgan Collett
== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Read/Read-64.tar.bz2

== Fixed tickets ==

* #351 AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'evince_embed_init'

== NEWS ==

* Translation updates.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

2009-02-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
 Martin Langhoff wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de
 wrote:

 Well, your call - using the schoolserver url then?

 The fqdn from backup server or jabber server. Either will do until we
 fix the registration stuff.

 Please state exactly which one you want - I want this to be your call.

Ok. Both are wrong, and I'm good at being stoned for picking a wrong setting.

The jabber server is at least recorded as a fqdn, so let's use that.
Backup server is recorded as u...@fqdn:path .

And let's make sure we fix registration and these values in the next
feature work cycle :-)

For the time being, ejabberd, backup and moodle are quite tightly
bound together -- this is not a good long-term thing, but a fact of
life in the short-term.

cheers,


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

2009-02-20 Thread Hal Murray

 The fqdn from backup server or jabber server. Either will do until we
 fix the registration stuff.

 Please state exactly which one you want - I want this to be your call.

How about adding a layer of indirection and letting DNS do the binding?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)

2009-02-20 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Hi there


Why don't we start by getting a day on the calendar for a regular design
meeting. How is Saturday at 11am? Does that work for everyone?

We may need to start next week, on the 27th, since Eben is traveling...


Christian


On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:

 Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 22:18, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote:

 I wasn't available for a meeting today, so that's partially my fault.
 I'm trying to get back into the swing of things, though, and actually
 had the chance to meet with Christian today regarding starting up
 regular design meetings again.

 As our work on Sugar will be voluntary, we both feel that selecting a
 time on the weekends (or perhaps late evening, though naturally
 timezone complicates this) may allow us to attend regularly as we'd
 like to. Would this work for others with interest?  What days/times
 would be most suitable for everyone?


 Weekends are not as good for me, but I definitely will be able to attend
 some.

 Apart from Josh, Eduardo (HoboPrimate) is back giving us awesome
 usability feedback and Gary is stepping up his contributions even more
 by doing icons for Sugar. So we need to organize a bit all this new
 energy that is coming into the design area ;)

 See you soon,

 Tomeu


 +1, there is definitely a lot of energy.

 Weekend is currently not as optimal for me neither, but I am sure we can
 find ways to communicate the outcome from those meetings tomeu or I can not
 attend. Might be worth anyhow - since we are an in time and space
 distributed crowd.

 /me is so happy to see Sugar Labs progress on all fronts each day.

 Thanks!
   Simon




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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Please update your activity info files for deprecated fields

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Simon Schampijer wrote:
 Dear activity developers,
 
 there are two deprecated fields in the activity.info [1]
 
 'service_name' is deprecated please use 'bundle-id' instead.

Sorry, this should be 'bundle_id'.

Thanks to Walter for notifying,
Simon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-20 Thread David Farning
As part of /bin/build.py there is a .js add .css minimizer.  It must
be screw up.

I think that we need to replace the minimzed .js and .css with
upstream's and turn off the minimizer.

david

2009/2/21 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:49, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, it seems like a lot of the buttons on the site do nothing when clicked
 right now.  I just encountered the same problem.

 Looking at it right now. It works in addons-devel, so I suspect that
 the tricks for minimizing access to .js files are breaking production.

 Tomeu

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com
 wrote:

 On 18 Feb 2009, at 15:04, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

  Hi,
 
  as the site is becoming more functional, we are in need of feedback
  before we direct there the masses.
 
  Could activity maintainers register and upload their last activity
  bundles? Please try to also upload at least one screenshot, the site
  will be much prettier that way ;)

 OK giving up for the night :-(

 I've merged and built a new moon-9 with aslroots very kind addition of
 resolution independent scaling code, but I can't get it uploaded to
 a.sl.org, I thought it was a Safari browser issue, so I tested with
 Firefox as well, but no luck. I get as far as:

http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers/addon/submit

 But the 'Get Started' button does nothing. Game over. Any hints
 welcome, but will need to wait until tomorrow for me wake up and try
 again.

 Regards
 --Gary

 P.S As a member of the ActivityTeam, I am rather embarrassed to have
 to ask what I should now do with the Moon-9.tar.bz2 file that fell out
 the back of ./setup dist_source (couldn't see any ActivityTeam wiki
 suggestions for how to officially publish Activities other than the
 links to addons). I'm not officially part of any (confusingly) named,
 temporally aligned, carbohydrate molecular substrate, but am very
 happy to provide the source code somewhere formal if it makes distro
 packager lives easier.

  Thanks,
 
  Tomeu
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 17:51, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 As part of /bin/build.py there is a .js add .css minimizer.  It must
 be screw up.

 I think that we need to replace the minimzed .js and .css with
 upstream's and turn off the minimizer.

It was screwed up because of:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/287035

Now seems to work fine.

Regards,

Tomeu

 2009/2/21 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:49, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, it seems like a lot of the buttons on the site do nothing when clicked
 right now.  I just encountered the same problem.

 Looking at it right now. It works in addons-devel, so I suspect that
 the tricks for minimizing access to .js files are breaking production.

 Tomeu

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com
 wrote:

 On 18 Feb 2009, at 15:04, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

  Hi,
 
  as the site is becoming more functional, we are in need of feedback
  before we direct there the masses.
 
  Could activity maintainers register and upload their last activity
  bundles? Please try to also upload at least one screenshot, the site
  will be much prettier that way ;)

 OK giving up for the night :-(

 I've merged and built a new moon-9 with aslroots very kind addition of
 resolution independent scaling code, but I can't get it uploaded to
 a.sl.org, I thought it was a Safari browser issue, so I tested with
 Firefox as well, but no luck. I get as far as:

http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers/addon/submit

 But the 'Get Started' button does nothing. Game over. Any hints
 welcome, but will need to wait until tomorrow for me wake up and try
 again.

 Regards
 --Gary

 P.S As a member of the ActivityTeam, I am rather embarrassed to have
 to ask what I should now do with the Moon-9.tar.bz2 file that fell out
 the back of ./setup dist_source (couldn't see any ActivityTeam wiki
 suggestions for how to officially publish Activities other than the
 links to addons). I'm not officially part of any (confusingly) named,
 temporally aligned, carbohydrate molecular substrate, but am very
 happy to provide the source code somewhere formal if it makes distro
 packager lives easier.

  Thanks,
 
  Tomeu
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Please update your activity info files for deprecated fields

2009-02-20 Thread Gary C Martin
On 20 Feb 2009, at 11:14, Simon Schampijer wrote:

 Dear activity developers,

 there are two deprecated fields in the activity.info [1]

 'service_name' is deprecated please use 'bundle-id' instead.

 'class' is deprecated and you should use the 'exec' command instead.  
 The
 reason for the switch is that the exec command follows better the
 general freedesktop standard [2]

Thanks, didn't know about that change in spec... was just about to  
alter my 'class' to 'exec', but before I do, how far back does exec  
support go in Sugar? I don't want to break backwards compatibility for  
current deployments.

Would you recommend I put both class and exec line in the .info file?

--Gary

 The sooner you get this in the better. Deprecated things get dropped  
 at
 some point, latest with the next major release (in this case 1.0) -  
 you
 will be informed again of course.

 Thanks,
Simon

 [1]
 http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Almanac/Activity_Bundles#.info_file_format
 [2]
 http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-0.9.3.html
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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-104

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source ==
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Browse/Browse-104.tar.bz2

== News ==
- Create a HTTP Cookie to authenticate with the Schoolserver (Martin 
Langhoff)
- Deprecation fix: Use bundle_id instead od service_name
- Set intl.accept_languages based on the locale (Daniel Drake)
- New Translations

Note: this is Browse version for Sucrose 0.84 - don't be surprised if 
this does not work on 0.82

Thanks for all these nice contributions,
Simon
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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.83.8

2009-02-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all,

here is one more release with several bugfixes.


== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.83.8.tar.bz2

== Fixed tickets ==

* #235 Sugar-install-bundle script fails to update Sugar UI with new activity 
installs
* #387 position of favorite icons is not consistent
* #360 Icons for viewsource: Document, Activity Bundle
* #361 ViewSource - No feedback for .pyc files
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84 Release Candidate 1 (0.83.5)

2009-02-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:28:40AM -0800, S Page wrote:
(I cc'd the sugarlabs lists for repliers but am not on them.)

Simon Schampijer wrote:
 Dear Sugar Community,
 
 This is Release Candidate 1 for the upcoming 0.84 Release - see [1] 
 for more details. Only two more weeks to go in this release cycle. 
 Please test this release

How?  I have an XO-1 with developer key.  Back in January Gary C Martin 
wrote in Re: [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release ,
 FWIW: I've been reasonably successfully running joyride 2631 on an XO 
 for a few days now, and it seems to have all the 0.83.4 Sugar feature 
 freeze changes in.

Sugar is a Desktop environment. It is the visible part of some Linux
distribution.

What is soon ready is next stable release of that Desktop environment.

What is *not* ready is the distribution shipped with the XOs (which is a 
derivative of Fedora, I believe).


You (among others, and quite understandably so!) seem to confuse the 
Desktop developed by Sugarlabs with the distributions including it.


Kind regards,

  - Jonas

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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork-0.83.5

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.83.5.tar.bz2

== Fixed tickets ==

* Icon for a generic document, part of #360
* Add view source icon
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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.83.7

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.83.7.tar.bz2

== Fixed tickets ==

* Don't try to hide the tray if the activity has none (alsroot) #395
* NamingAlert: Icon dependent on the entry type #353
* Updated Languages
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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-base-0.83.4

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source ==
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-base/sugar-base-0.83.4.tar.bz2

== News ==

* Updated Languages
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-02-20 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
This brings up an issue I have been thinking about, since the SynPhony
database comprises several with attribution components.  Would it make
sense to have a common design element that was about activity or
credits that would allow contributions to be acknowledged?  Leaving aside
whether it is a license requirement I think it is good practice to show
Sugar users, aka kids, that some people cared enough to build this stuff,
and that if they build stuff they can receive acknowledgement too.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:

 Hi,

 we did show a full license in the Control Panel before. The path was
 hard coded to where OLPC had placed the GPL license. What can we do to
 meet the expectations of all the distributions that want to ship sugar?

 Thanks for inputs on this,
Simon

 http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/357
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-02-20 Thread Wade Brainerd
Agreed that an about this activity (credits, license, etc) UI element
should be standard.
This should be part of a ubiquitous help button, which would become part of
the standard activity toolbar.  When clicked, it opens a localized .html
file from within the activity bundle.  It could open in Browse, or else a
modal dialog.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote:

 This brings up an issue I have been thinking about, since the SynPhony
 database comprises several with attribution components.  Would it make
 sense to have a common design element that was about activity or
 credits that would allow contributions to be acknowledged?  Leaving aside
 whether it is a license requirement I think it is good practice to show
 Sugar users, aka kids, that some people cared enough to build this stuff,
 and that if they build stuff they can receive acknowledgement too.


 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:

 Hi,

 we did show a full license in the Control Panel before. The path was
 hard coded to where OLPC had placed the GPL license. What can we do to
 meet the expectations of all the distributions that want to ship sugar?

 Thanks for inputs on this,
Simon

 http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/357
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-104

2009-02-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 06:28:31PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote:
== Source ==
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Browse/Browse-104.tar.bz2

== News ==
- Create a HTTP Cookie to authenticate with the Schoolserver (Martin 
Langhoff)
- Deprecation fix: Use bundle_id instead od service_name
- Set intl.accept_languages based on the locale (Daniel Drake)
- New Translations

Note: this is Browse version for Sucrose 0.84 - don't be surprised if 
this does not work on 0.82

Fair enough, that you take no responsibility for backwards 
compatibility.

I would however want to do so for Debian.  I'll test myself that 
bundle_id works with 0.82, but suspect the Schoolserver authenticate 
change might break.

@Martin: I seem to have read between the lines of your patching work 
that you might have a different patch for 0.82 Deployments, is that so, 
or do you believe this official Schoolserver change works on 0.82 too?


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-104

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 06:28:31PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 == Source ==
 http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Browse/Browse-104.tar.bz2

 == News ==
 - Create a HTTP Cookie to authenticate with the Schoolserver (Martin 
 Langhoff)
 - Deprecation fix: Use bundle_id instead od service_name
 - Set intl.accept_languages based on the locale (Daniel Drake)
 - New Translations

 Note: this is Browse version for Sucrose 0.84 - don't be surprised if 
 this does not work on 0.82
 
 Fair enough, that you take no responsibility for backwards 
 compatibility.
 
 I would however want to do so for Debian.  I'll test myself that 
 bundle_id works with 0.82, 

That does not break anything. The underlying hulahop has changed and 
Browse reacted to that - that is why we can not provide the backward 
compability.

Cheers,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Please update your activity info files for deprecated fields

2009-02-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Gary C Martin wrote:
 On 20 Feb 2009, at 11:14, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 
 Dear activity developers,

 there are two deprecated fields in the activity.info [1]

 'service_name' is deprecated please use 'bundle-id' instead.

 'class' is deprecated and you should use the 'exec' command instead. The
 reason for the switch is that the exec command follows better the
 general freedesktop standard [2]
 
 Thanks, didn't know about that change in spec... was just about to alter 
 my 'class' to 'exec', but before I do, how far back does exec support go 
 in Sugar? I don't want to break backwards compatibility for current 
 deployments.
 
 Would you recommend I put both class and exec line in the .info file?
 
 --Gary

Good point Gary! We are doing fine in this regard. 0.82 will work and 
previous versions as well, when looking at the timestamps when this was 
put in.

Thanks,
Simon

[eri...@beet sugar-toolkit]$ git-blame -L 143,169 
src/sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 143)
6073a396 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Marco Pesenti Gritti 2007-10-09 
13:15:06 +0200 144) if cp.has_option(section, 'bundle_id'):
6073a396 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Marco Pesenti Gritti 2007-10-09 
13:15:06 +0200 145) self._bundle_id = cp.get(section, '
6073a396 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Marco Pesenti Gritti 2007-10-09 
13:15:06 +0200 146) # FIXME deprecated
6073a396 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Marco Pesenti Gritti 2007-10-09 
13:15:06 +0200 147) elif cp.has_option(section, 'service_na
6073a396 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Marco Pesenti Gritti 2007-10-09 
13:15:06 +0200 148) self._bundle_id = cp.get(section, '
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 149) else:
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 150) raise MalformedBundleException(
6073a396 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Marco Pesenti Gritti 2007-10-09 
13:15:06 +0200 151) 'Activity bundle %s does not sp
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 152) self._path)
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 153)
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 154) if cp.has_option(section, 'name'):
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 155) self._name = cp.get(section, 'name'
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 156) else:
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 157) raise MalformedBundleException(
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 158) 'Activity bundle %s does not sp
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 159)
6ebe910e sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Marco Pesenti Gritti 2007-10-08 
14:56:12 +0200 160) # FIXME class is deprecated
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 161) if cp.has_option(section, 'class'):
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 162) self.activity_class = cp.get(sectio
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 163) elif cp.has_option(section, 'exec'):
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 164) self.bundle_exec = cp.get(section,
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 165) else:
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 166) raise MalformedBundleException(
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 167) 'Activity bundle %s must specif
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 168) self._path)
f377d6e5 sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py (Dan Winship  2007-09-20 
12:20:21 -0400 169)
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[Sugar-devel] SoaS - Another Snapshot

2009-02-20 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi everybody,

after some time, we've another snapshot of soas-1 ready for testing! You 
can now grab it directly from [1].

So what has changed in comparison to the last one?

* size improvements everywhere - the whole image has been slimmed quite 
a bit and is now just around 350 MB!

* sugar-write works now out of the box - yay! thanks to alsroot for 
making this possible.

* your favorite activities have been included, updated and some new were 
also added: for example, you can now directly check out the InfoSlicer 
activity [2] using SoaS.

* Sugar has been updated; Simon is working on the RPMs of the latest 
release, so expect another snapshot soonish!

* Gnash has been recently included - please check whether it works for you!

For your notice, there's a known bug with regard to the mouse cursor 
occurring from time to time. If you come across it or can help with 
fixing it, that would be really appreciated.

Please help us and report also any other issues you may encounter!

Thanks and happy testing,
--The SoaS Team

[1] http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200902201251.iso
[2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/InfoSlicer
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[Sugar-devel] sugar.datastore

2009-02-20 Thread Sascha Silbe


After I fixed the Python search path in Pippy, I'm trying to get the 
data store part of the Slideshow example to work (it doesn't return any 
objects though there are JPEGs in the data store).
pippy.query seems outdated (uses direct DBus access, datastore is 
complaining about invalid parameters), so I'm trying sugar.datastore 
according to the howto on [1].
Is sugar.datastore.datastore working properly? It behaves quite 
unexpectedly for me:


1. datastore.find({'mime_type': 'image/jpeg'}) returns no objects
2. datastore.find({'title': 'Browse Activity'}) returns the same as
datastore.find({}), i.e. probably all entries - but most of them
don't match the given title
3. the metadata entries contain dbus.ByteArray's, not (unicode) strings 
like I'd expect

BTW: an items() function would be nice


[1] 
http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Almanac/sugar.datastore.datastore


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Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS - Another Snapshot

2009-02-20 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:17:06PM +0100, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 after some time, we've another snapshot of soas-1 ready for testing! You 
 can now grab it directly from [1].
 
 So what has changed in comparison to the last one?
 
 * size improvements everywhere - the whole image has been slimmed quite 
 a bit and is now just around 350 MB!
guess it will weight a bit bigger after adding 23 honey activities and theirs
dependencies :)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SoaS - Another Snapshot

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Lee
This is another baby step that's keeping my excitement growing.
I installed your new snapshot on a 4 gig USB drive using Fedora's
Liveusb-creator. I then I did quick boot tests on the following, which all
booted up:

Asus Eee PC 701 (no wifi, cramped screen layout)

Intel Classmate 2 Celeron (wifi worked and I was able to use Browse, cramped
screen layout)

Intel Classmate 3 Convertible (no wifi, screen much roomier)

On all: the cursor was invisible to start. It appeared after I navigated to
the Journal and opened the detail view of an entry. Speak didn't work.

While I had wifi on the Classmate 2, I downloaded Walter's TAPortfolio 17.
It seemed to load fine on all three machines, but the bottom part of the
tabbed palette was clipped on the EeePC and Classmate 2 making some of the
pieces impossible to retrieve.

Well, that was what I did in an hour. Looking forward to testing more.

Mike

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On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.comwrote:

 Hi everybody,

 after some time, we've another snapshot of soas-1 ready for testing! You
 can now grab it directly from [1].

 So what has changed in comparison to the last one?

 * size improvements everywhere - the whole image has been slimmed quite
 a bit and is now just around 350 MB!

 * sugar-write works now out of the box - yay! thanks to alsroot for
 making this possible.

 * your favorite activities have been included, updated and some new were
 also added: for example, you can now directly check out the InfoSlicer
 activity [2] using SoaS.

 * Sugar has been updated; Simon is working on the RPMs of the latest
 release, so expect another snapshot soonish!

 * Gnash has been recently included - please check whether it works for you!

 For your notice, there's a known bug with regard to the mouse cursor
 occurring from time to time. If you come across it or can help with
 fixing it, that would be really appreciated.

 Please help us and report also any other issues you may encounter!

 Thanks and happy testing,
--The SoaS Team

 [1] http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200902201251.iso
 [2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/InfoSlicer
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-20 Thread Gary C Martin
On 20 Feb 2009, at 17:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 17:51, David Farning  
 dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 As part of /bin/build.py there is a .js add .css minimizer.  It must
 be screw up.

 I think that we need to replace the minimzed .js and .css with
 upstream's and turn off the minimizer.

 It was screwed up because of:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/287035

Thanks Tomeu, I've just got the new Moon-9.xo uploaded, I think I  
managed to find all the necessary boxes, icon, and screen-shot upload  
forms :-)

--Gary

P.S. Planning to get my act together and push out a Sugar Labyrinth  
release for later next week if all goes well.

 Now seems to work fine.

 Regards,

 Tomeu

 2009/2/21 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:49, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Yeah, it seems like a lot of the buttons on the site do nothing  
 when clicked
 right now.  I just encountered the same problem.

 Looking at it right now. It works in addons-devel, so I suspect that
 the tricks for minimizing access to .js files are breaking  
 production.

 Tomeu

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com 
 
 wrote:

 On 18 Feb 2009, at 15:04, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

 Hi,

 as the site is becoming more functional, we are in need of  
 feedback
 before we direct there the masses.

 Could activity maintainers register and upload their last  
 activity
 bundles? Please try to also upload at least one screenshot, the  
 site
 will be much prettier that way ;)

 OK giving up for the night :-(

 I've merged and built a new moon-9 with aslroots very kind  
 addition of
 resolution independent scaling code, but I can't get it uploaded  
 to
 a.sl.org, I thought it was a Safari browser issue, so I tested  
 with
 Firefox as well, but no luck. I get as far as:

   http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers/addon/submit

 But the 'Get Started' button does nothing. Game over. Any hints
 welcome, but will need to wait until tomorrow for me wake up and  
 try
 again.

 Regards
 --Gary

 P.S As a member of the ActivityTeam, I am rather embarrassed to  
 have
 to ask what I should now do with the Moon-9.tar.bz2 file that  
 fell out
 the back of ./setup dist_source (couldn't see any ActivityTeam  
 wiki
 suggestions for how to officially publish Activities other than  
 the
 links to addons). I'm not officially part of any (confusingly)  
 named,
 temporally aligned, carbohydrate molecular substrate, but am very
 happy to provide the source code somewhere formal if it makes  
 distro
 packager lives easier.

 Thanks,

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