Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Bastien wrote: > Hi all, > > following David Farning's advice, we want to keep the SugarCamp as > informal as possible. Yet we want to have some tangible output, on > top of the obvious (and noble) task of building the Sugar community. > > So we have been brainstorming a bit and here are 17 challenges that > we may want to tackle. Here is your mission: > > - re-order this list to reflect your priorities (we will certainly > focus only on the 10 first items in this list) > > - try to be more specific in defining each challenge (we will have > a page on the wiki describing each challenge more thoroughly) > > - try to make the challenge both doable and... challenging! > > Of course, this list is open. > > Thanks a bunch in advance for your feedback. > > > > - Gcompris: package Gcompris as a .xo file > > - WikiBrowse: have a simple receipe to build a WikiBrowse in any > language, and start using it for a french WikiBrowse > > - Help activity: have a simple receipe to build a Help activity in any > language, and start a french WikiBrowse > > - Install Sugar on the Gdium If you are doing an install fest, I just ordered a Lenovo s10 which could use Sugarizing:) I hope that it, running sugar, can be my laptop for daily use for the next 6 months. I never have gotten Sugar to run on my several year old Lenovo 3000 N100:( david > - Finish the malagasy translation of Sugar core system > > - Run the XS server on several architectures/systèmes > > - Define and build a french bundle of Sugar activities > > - Update several XOs from another XO > > - Run Ooo4Kids on the XO (make it run better, sugarize it) > > - Have a usable Ebook reader and package content for it > > - Specify a pedagogical activity based on 3D sound > > - Have an activity (à la Help) to make the Guide XO Gabon > available/readable within Sugar > > - Hardware test for SOAS > > - Run Sugar on a Nokia N800 > > - Translate the deployment guide > > - Create screencasts for several activities > > - Have a css to make a Moodle website more readable on the XO/netbooks > > > > -- > Bastien > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03
Martin Dengler writes: > On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:45:29AM +0200, Bastien wrote: >> - Update several XOs from another XO > > You mean > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#NANDblasting_an_Unsigned_NAND_Image_File > ? Well, yes, maybe (Samy?) Which reminds me we could add a challenge about NANDBlaster (Daniel?) >> - Run Sugar on a Nokia N800 > > N810 ok? > http://guysoft.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/nokia-n810-running-olpc-sugar/ Yes. I have a N800 and I'm happy to lend it to anyone willing to run Sugar on it! -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:45:29AM +0200, Bastien wrote: > - Update several XOs from another XO You mean http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#NANDblasting_an_Unsigned_NAND_Image_File ? > - Run Sugar on a Nokia N800 N810 ok? http://guysoft.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/nokia-n810-running-olpc-sugar/ Martin pgp1GXtPPR5Kd.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03
Hi all, following David Farning's advice, we want to keep the SugarCamp as informal as possible. Yet we want to have some tangible output, on top of the obvious (and noble) task of building the Sugar community. So we have been brainstorming a bit and here are 17 challenges that we may want to tackle. Here is your mission: - re-order this list to reflect your priorities (we will certainly focus only on the 10 first items in this list) - try to be more specific in defining each challenge (we will have a page on the wiki describing each challenge more thoroughly) - try to make the challenge both doable and... challenging! Of course, this list is open. Thanks a bunch in advance for your feedback. - Gcompris: package Gcompris as a .xo file - WikiBrowse: have a simple receipe to build a WikiBrowse in any language, and start using it for a french WikiBrowse - Help activity: have a simple receipe to build a Help activity in any language, and start a french WikiBrowse - Install Sugar on the Gdium - Finish the malagasy translation of Sugar core system - Run the XS server on several architectures/systèmes - Define and build a french bundle of Sugar activities - Update several XOs from another XO - Run Ooo4Kids on the XO (make it run better, sugarize it) - Have a usable Ebook reader and package content for it - Specify a pedagogical activity based on 3D sound - Have an activity (à la Help) to make the Guide XO Gabon available/readable within Sugar - Hardware test for SOAS - Run Sugar on a Nokia N800 - Translate the deployment guide - Create screencasts for several activities - Have a css to make a Moodle website more readable on the XO/netbooks -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar version of Number Race?
We should perhaps reexamine the JClic stuff as well, in light of Sugar on non-XO hardware. http://clic.xtec.cat/ -walter On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:33, Bastien wrote: >> I have just listened to a talk by Stanislas Dehaene this morning. >> He mentioned "Number Race" - a software based on recent research >> in cognitive science: >> >> http://www.unicog.org/main/pages.php?page=NumberRace >> >> I don't know how hard it would be to have a Sugar version, but I >> think it would be pretty cool. > > It's written in Java and is open source, so there's good chances of > making it run as a Sugar activity without too much effort. > > Unfortunately, it probably won't run too well on the XO. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar version of Number Race?
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 14:33, Bastien wrote: > I have just listened to a talk by Stanislas Dehaene this morning. > He mentioned "Number Race" - a software based on recent research > in cognitive science: > > http://www.unicog.org/main/pages.php?page=NumberRace > > I don't know how hard it would be to have a Sugar version, but I > think it would be pretty cool. It's written in Java and is open source, so there's good chances of making it run as a Sugar activity without too much effort. Unfortunately, it probably won't run too well on the XO. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Sugar version of Number Race?
I have just listened to a talk by Stanislas Dehaene this morning. He mentioned "Number Race" - a software based on recent research in cognitive science: http://www.unicog.org/main/pages.php?page=NumberRace I don't know how hard it would be to have a Sugar version, but I think it would be pretty cool. -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?
setup.py has always bugged me for the reasons stated. SJ On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > On 28.04.2009, at 17:34, Luke Faraone wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:30, Bert Freudenberg > wrote: >> >> That would make sense. In fact, I previously made a mkDist.py script >> (in the etoys repo) that would call the bundle builder to create an xo >> bundle. It sets the dist_dir variable in the Config object. How would >> I set the dist_dir when using setup.py? > > The *exact* same way you'd do it in your other script. setup.py is just a > well-known name for the file that "sets up" a package; it's the equivalent > of a Makefile from the C++ world. > > Err, if I change the semantics of setup.py that would break it for other > users. I would have to pass it as a command line option, but that apparently > is not supported. > - Bert - > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?
On 28.04.2009, at 19:42, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.04.2009, at 17:34, Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:30, Bert Freudenberg wrote: That would make sense. In fact, I previously made a mkDist.py script (in the etoys repo) that would call the bundle builder to create an xo bundle. It sets the dist_dir variable in the Config object. How would I set the dist_dir when using setup.py? The *exact* same way you'd do it in your other script. setup.py is just a well-known name for the file that "sets up" a package; it's the equivalent of a Makefile from the C++ world. Err, if I change the semantics of setup.py that would break it for other users. I would have to pass it as a command line option, but that apparently is not supported. - Bert - *bump* - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on Fedora?
[cc'ing sugar-devel] On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 03:12:59PM +0500, Ashar Iqbal wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:06:07AM +0500, Ashar Iqbal wrote: > >> The PCs I have are not able to boot off USBs. I need to install Sugar on > >> the > >> hard disks. > > > > You can burn Sugar-on-a-Stick to CD, boot off it, and then install > > Sugar to the hard drive. But SoaS is a work-in-progress, so if you're > > wanting to set up a computer lab or something I'd not plan on being > > fully up and running for a while longer. It's certainly worth testing > > though (IMO), to see what your issues are and let us know. > > > > Martin > > > > Thanks for the help Martin. > > I am downloading the file soas-beta.iso dated 14-Apr-2009 and will > try to install this. Good luck. I've cc'ed the sugar-devel mailing list, which is a good resource for questions like this. > I also found http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/ and snapshots/2/ > What are these? Older/newer (than the beta) ISOs: snapshots/1 was based on F10 and snapshots/2 are based on F11/rawhide. > Ashar Martin pgpsI2eeqtczq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] versus, not
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > Fair enough. I agree that *most* people on the list agree that there > is not just one right way. And to use a metaphor that has been > oft-spoken in the US news of late, Sugar Labs has to have a "big > tent." > > Sugar itself has affordances that can be used in support of many > educational approaches and virtually any content area. Completely for the big tent, and wide ranging use models. It also means I have to swallow hard when people use things I build in ways that I consider... not particularly good. You might hear me mention that "that's a practise that I don't emphasize" ;-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
