[Sugar-devel] improving graphics performance

2009-06-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi,

if anyone has the time and interest to improve graphics performance of
Sugar on the XO and other limited hardware, please consider reading
this post from Cairo's Carl Worth:

http://cworth.org/intel/performance_measurement/

Would be specially valuable to do separate profiling of librsvg.

Thanks,

Tomeu
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Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-06-14 Thread Alexander Boström
Den 2009-05-24 07:46, Albert Cahalan skrev:

 Evolution also happens to mangle mail in ways that hinder full
 participation in many Open Source mailing lists.

That's Thunderbird (which I'm using right now), I think. The Evolution 
email editor is a wonderful compared to Thunderbird's.

/abo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Groupthink Update: SharedTextDemo-2

2009-06-14 Thread Bobby Powers
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Benjamin M.
Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:
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 SharedTextDemo-2 is now available at
 http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/SharedTextDemo-2.xo.

 This version is functionally identical to (and even protocol-compatible
 with) version 1.  However, I have redesigned the entire operational
 transformation engine.  The new algorithms are still O(N), and the demo is
 still too slow to write a whole essay.  However, I can now recommend
 Groupthink's SharedTextView to anyone who wants instant collaboration in a
 GTK TextView, and is editing less than 1 Kilobyte of text (on an XO-1, or
 proportionally more on more powerful machines).

Sounds great!  Are you expecting more performance gains in the future?
 Is there a git repository somewhere I could check out?

bobby

 Please contact me if you would like help using Groupthink in your activity.

 The new algorithms are moderately interesting.  I have completely removed
 all explicit trees, and all walking of trees.  Instead, the new algorithm
 maintains two Lists, and a Dict for their inverted index.  This allows
 determining the Nth character, locating an existing edit, or computing a
 new edit, in constant time.  Actually performing an edit requires O(N)
 time, but the O(N) component is now a small, simple loop.  I am hopeful
 that these algorithms are amenable to integration with a self-balancing
 tree (most likely a customized variant of a Rope), for log-time
 performance on all operations.  Time permitting, I may implement this.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Groupthink Update: SharedTextDemo-2

2009-06-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Bobby Powers wrote:
 Sounds great!  Are you expecting more performance gains in the future?

Only if someone implements them!

  Is there a git repository somewhere I could check out?

Yes! http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/dobject/

--Ben



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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Groupthink Update: SharedTextDemo-2

2009-06-14 Thread Gary C Martin
On 15 Jun 2009, at 01:59, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:

 Bobby Powers wrote:
 Sounds great!  Are you expecting more performance gains in the  
 future?

 Only if someone implements them!

Definitely has my interest!!

Useful collaboration is _really_ tough, your Groupthink potentially  
offers a generalised sync solution for many Activity authors. Concrete  
example for me: It would seem to make a good collaboration back end  
for Labyrinth mind-maps. Mind-maps are generally fairly small (XML)  
documents (at least good ones are). Labyrinth does support adding  
drawings and images as nodes, but I can try to deal with those as  
unique hashed text identities for collaborative sessions, and transfer/ 
sync their actual raw content via other mechanisms when they change.

Would be great to have the ability for a handful of folks to  
collaborate on creating mind-maps together in realtime.

Regards,
--Gary

 Is there a git repository somewhere I could check out?

 Yes! http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/dobject/

 --Ben

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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Groupthink Update: SharedTextDemo-2

2009-06-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Gary C Martin wrote:
 On 15 Jun 2009, at 01:59, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
 
 Bobby Powers wrote:
 Sounds great!  Are you expecting more performance gains in the future?

 Only if someone implements them!
 
 Definitely has my interest!!
 
 Useful collaboration is _really_ tough, your Groupthink potentially
 offers a generalised sync solution for many Activity authors. Concrete
 example for me: It would seem to make a good collaboration back end for
 Labyrinth mind-maps. Mind-maps are generally fairly small (XML)
 documents (at least good ones are). Labyrinth does support adding
 drawings and images as nodes, but I can try to deal with those as unique
 hashed text identities for collaborative sessions, and transfer/sync
 their actual raw content via other mechanisms when they change.
 
 Would be great to have the ability for a handful of folks to collaborate
 on creating mind-maps together in realtime.

I agree.  In fact, in groupthink_base.py there's an implementation of a
shared Tree (in the graph-theoretic sense), which I wrote while trying to
add collaboration to Tomeu's mind-map activity.*  Structures for sharing
arbitrary blobs would definitely be a welcome addition to Groupthink.

--Ben

*: There's also a SharedTreeStore in gtk_tools.py, wrapping the shared
tree into the gtk TreeStore interface.  However, neither data structure is
at all tested, and both are probably full of bugs.  I never got to try
integrating this with Tomeu's activity, because I do all my testing on
XOs, and the activity wouldn't run on 0.82



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