Re: [Sugar-devel] minutes of today's meeting
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 20:49, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, we had an excellent discussion in today's meeting, pity we ran out of time. Here you can find the logs and minutes: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Meetings#Tuesday_1st_September_2009_16:00_UTC Oh, and please, if you attended the meeting please check that the minutes reflect what we discussed and complete and correct as you see. Thanks, Tomeu We have already two interesting subjects for the next meeting: extensions, engineering committee and code review process. Let's have another meeting next week? Are people happy with this time or would someone like to suggest a different time? Thanks, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] What operating system should I put on the donated computers for SoaS at the GPA
Our short term goal is to on Monday prep 5-10 computer to put into the GPA classrooms on Weds. So we don't need super simple or something we never have to upgrade, we will have lots of access to these computers. Also we don't need computers to be both boot-helpers and have a Guest Sugar system on them. They can be one or the other. This week is about what we can do this week. Hopefully this experience will lead us to a super simple installation that we can use for donated computers and put it into kids homes without having to worry about how we will upgrade them. Thanks! Caroline On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Anurag a CS student at BU, my husband, a CS grad from MIT and I, a techie never give upper, are going to be working on Monday to take the pile of computers in my house and prepare them for installing in the GPA school on Weds. We will be wiping all the hard disks and putting on something else. Can I put install some version of the boothelper on the hard drive so when it boots off of the hard drive it automatically looks for a USB? Probably yes, See below for more. I think this would be preferred especially for older computers that don't let us set the bios for USB boot preference. Perhaps with newer computers we should install Sugar locally and make it the Room 33 user so that guests can get access with out a stick. Thoughts? help? A boot menu could allow this. Will require at least some config file investigation/changes. Also, I understand the the current beta for SoaS 2 has a method to install to a hard drive and it would be best to remain compatible with that. Unfortunately, I know nothing about how it works. Got a good answer? Put it here for future deployments: https://answers.launchpad.net/soas/+question/81627 We will also use this for tracking what I do and documenting results. The floppy boot helper (using kexec-loader) that I've been working on with you does the initial boot via syslinux. Respinning it to boot from a hard drive is therefore theoretically easy as syslinux can be used on hard drivers as well as floppies. However, how to create an easy to use UI to get it installed to the hard drive isn't immediately obvious to me. Alternatively, the current CD helper uses isolinux for it's initial boot which is part of the same suite of programs as syslinux. Syslinux can used more or less as a drop in replacement for isolinux. Therefore the CD helper method could also be theoretically respun, but with identical install issues as the floppy helper. Bill Bogstad Technical notes: A fundamental difference between the CD helper and the Floppy helper is that the CD helper actually contains the SoaS kernel and ramdisk and only points to the Flash drive to get the root and /home filesystems. The floppy helper actually reads the SoaS kernel/ramdisk off of the USB stick at boot time. As a result, I believe that the floppy helper is less likely to need to be respun for new releases of SoaS. OTOH, the floppy helper makes no use of the BIOS to read/find the SoaS and if the floppy helper doesn't have a driver for hardware you want to boot from the BIOS doesn't help. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Hop-A-Round-1
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4209 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29225 Release notes: This is the first version released for use. Reviewer comments: This request has been approved. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote: I can go buy the 5 and 8 port models tonight to try. If one of these works, then we'll at least have a basis for moving forward in the classroom. So far, I don't think we have any confirmed working devices. As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. Is there any reason to suspect the hardware? If it works over wireless or the internet, perhaps this is a software issue. Dave Mike On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Caroline Meeks wrote: One piece of this will be creating a cluster in the hallway, that collaborates locally but does not have internet access. I've yet to get this to work. We need to translate from discussions of network segments to very practical discussion of what specific model numbers can you buy at the store and it will work for X number of computers. You should be able to use any switch with as many ports as you have computers. For example: 5 ports: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257750 8 ports: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0294506 16 ports: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0282106 (The Microcenter in Cambridge happens to be my usual place to buy this sort of electronics.) All you should need is a switch like that, and one standard ethernet cable for each computer. If you have a very large number of machines, you can start connecting multiple switches together, but this sounds unlikely to be necessary for your purposes. --Ben ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
Mike Lee wrote: I can go buy the 5 and 8 port models tonight to try. If one of these works, then we'll at least have a basis for moving forward in the classroom. So far, I don't think we have any confirmed working devices. As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. It is hard for me to believe that the problem is with the choice of switch. Switches are commodities; they're interchangeable and virtually identical in functionality. Your earlier description suggests that your laptops are not configured for local collaboration at all. In particular, it's possible that Avahi is not running. Whether the Avahi daemon is initiated by default, and how to start it, varies between distributions, so I can't advise you on that without knowing more about your configuration. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] What operating system should I put on the donated computers for SoaS at the GPA
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Our short term goal is to on Monday prep 5-10 computer to put into the GPA classrooms on Weds. So we don't need super simple or something we never have to upgrade, we will have lots of access to these computers. Also we don't need computers to be both boot-helpers and have a Guest Sugar system on them. They can be one or the other. This week is about what we can do this week. Hopefully this experience will lead us to a super simple installation that we can use for donated computers and put it into kids homes without having to worry about how we will upgrade them. I can probably find a way to generate and install a hard disk boot helper for SoaS by Monday. Whether it is based on the current CD or floppy helper will depend on on which is easier to do. I know nothing about guest Sugar systems and wouldn't even attempt to meet that kind of deadline. Bill Bogstad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
The same sticks collaborate locally at the GPA. Note that not seeing anyone in the neighborhood, and seeing people but not having all shared activities work all the time are probably two different bugs. We do sometimes have trouble with seeing activities at the GPA, but we always see the other people. Thanks! On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote: I can go buy the 5 and 8 port models tonight to try. If one of these works, then we'll at least have a basis for moving forward in the classroom. So far, I don't think we have any confirmed working devices. As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. Is there any reason to suspect the hardware? If it works over wireless or the internet, perhaps this is a software issue. Dave Mike On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Caroline Meeks wrote: One piece of this will be creating a cluster in the hallway, that collaborates locally but does not have internet access. I've yet to get this to work. We need to translate from discussions of network segments to very practical discussion of what specific model numbers can you buy at the store and it will work for X number of computers. You should be able to use any switch with as many ports as you have computers. For example: 5 ports: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257750 8 ports: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0294506 16 ports: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0282106 (The Microcenter in Cambridge happens to be my usual place to buy this sort of electronics.) All you should need is a switch like that, and one standard ethernet cable for each computer. If you have a very large number of machines, you can start connecting multiple switches together, but this sounds unlikely to be necessary for your purposes. --Ben ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] minutes of today's meeting
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 08:49:49PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, we had an excellent discussion in today's meeting, pity we ran out of time. Here you can find the logs and minutes: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Meetings#Tuesday_1st_September_2009_16:00_UTC We have already two interesting subjects for the next meeting: extensions, engineering committee In case of creating engineering committee, at the end I like more http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-August/007993.html since it defines the whole life cycle of new project/feature. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:57:57PM -0400, Mike Lee wrote: As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. I don't think it has got anything to do with the switch. Collaboration is known to have some bugs. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Caroline Meekscme...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The same sticks collaborate locally at the GPA. Note that not seeing anyone in the neighborhood, and seeing people but not having all shared activities work all the time are probably two different bugs. We do sometimes have trouble with seeing activities at the GPA, but we always see the other people. I'm going to bring a ethernet hub (not switch) on Monday and see if tcpdump/ethereal can at least tell me what packets are flowing between non-working machines. I agree that the type of ethernet switch really shouldn't matter for this. Bill Bogstad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Sascha Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:57:57PM -0400, Mike Lee wrote: As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. I don't think it has got anything to do with the switch. Collaboration is known to have some bugs. Is there a (hopefully straightforward) way to determine if a known bug is causing the problem? Trac entries to check for symptoms? Things to look for in packet dumps? Logfile entries to examine? etc... Bill Bogstad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Caroline Meekscme...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The same sticks collaborate locally at the GPA. Note that not seeing anyone in the neighborhood, and seeing people but not having all shared activities work all the time are probably two different bugs. We do sometimes have trouble with seeing activities at the GPA, but we always see the other people. I'm going to bring a ethernet hub (not switch) on Monday and see if tcpdump/ethereal can at least tell me what packets are flowing between non-working machines. I agree that the type of ethernet switch really shouldn't matter for this. Also make sure you install and use the Analyze activity. Dave Bill Bogstad -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
Caroline Meeks wrote: The same sticks collaborate locally at the GPA. That's certainly very strange. I still think it's more likely to be a software problem than a hardware problem. The only relevant difference I can think of between GPA and a switch like this is that at GPA, there's a DHCP server handing out addresses. On a simple switch with no internet connection, the computers have to adopt link-local IP addresses (169.*). One possibility is that, in the absence of a DHCP server, the computers are not correctly acquiring link-local addresses. Bill can confirm this on Monday, I guess, by looking at the IP addresses shown in ifconfig in the no-internet configuration. Note that not seeing anyone in the neighborhood, and seeing people but not having all shared activities work all the time are probably two different bugs. We do sometimes have trouble with seeing activities at the GPA, but we always see the other people. Agreed. These are different issues. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
Bill Bogstad wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Sascha Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:57:57PM -0400, Mike Lee wrote: As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. I don't think it has got anything to do with the switch. Collaboration is known to have some bugs. Is there a (hopefully straightforward) way to determine if a known bug is causing the problem? I am not aware of any bug that would cause the observed symptoms. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
Gary C Martin wrote: On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:20, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:57:57PM -0400, Mike Lee wrote: As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. I don't think it has got anything to do with the switch. Collaboration is known to have some bugs. FWIW: All my testing has been done over wireless, so no wired results to report. I do have a switch and 2 machines so I might be able to test over ethernet and see if I can reproduce the issue here. That would be good. Even a crossover cable between two machines would be enough to test the system. My current best diagnosis is that the dhcpcd on Strawberry has somehow been configured without zeroconf, so it does not acquire a link-local address and bring up the interface in the absence of a DHCP server. I freely admit, though, that this diagnosis doesn't make a lot of sense, because Fedora has generally embraced zeroconf and Avahi, and there's no reason Strawberry should be different from stock Fedora in this regard. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:23:57PM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: Is there a (hopefully straightforward) way to determine if a known bug is causing the problem? I don't think any of the causes has been narrowed down sufficiently yet to be able to claim that you did (or did not) hit a known bug, sorry. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:35, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:20, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:57:57PM -0400, Mike Lee wrote: As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. I don't think it has got anything to do with the switch. Collaboration is known to have some bugs. FWIW: All my testing has been done over wireless, so no wired results to report. I do have a switch and 2 machines so I might be able to test over ethernet and see if I can reproduce the issue here. That would be good. Even a crossover cable between two machines would be enough to test the system. Yep thanks, wires are with a friend, will be a few days before I can test here, will give that route a test as well as a fallback if the switch is not playing well. My current best diagnosis is that the dhcpcd on Strawberry has somehow been configured without zeroconf, so it does not acquire a link-local address and bring up the interface in the absence of a DHCP server. I freely admit, though, that this diagnosis doesn't make a lot of sense, because Fedora has generally embraced zeroconf and Avahi, and there's no reason Strawberry should be different from stock Fedora in this regard. Yea, I'm not clear also on where the issue lies, hopefully reproduction of the failure in a test environment will push us in the right direction (sorry I can't do this right now) :-) Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Pilot in Berlin, Germany
Hi, some of you may know, I am doing a Sugar Pilot here in Germany. I try to keep my blog (listed on the sugarlabs planet as well) about my findings up to date [1]. For technical findings (how to setup nfs, ldap on Fedora for example) the plan is to use the wiki. 'Debatable things' I will try to bring up on the mailing list as well. Regards, Simon [1] http://erikos.sweettimez.de/ --- Categories: Sugar, Deployment and Teaching [2] http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pilot in Berlin, Germany
As a related note Sugar Labs Colombia pilots documentation is going to live on the wiki: Some documentation produced so far (technical side): http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_un_desktop http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_el_classmate Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, some of you may know, I am doing a Sugar Pilot here in Germany. I try to keep my blog (listed on the sugarlabs planet as well) about my findings up to date [1]. For technical findings (how to setup nfs, ldap on Fedora for example) the plan is to use the wiki. 'Debatable things' I will try to bring up on the mailing list as well. Regards, Simon [1] http://erikos.sweettimez.de/ --- Categories: Sugar, Deployment and Teaching [2] http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] experimenting w/ canvas, drawImage draws a distorted pic
canvas id=myCanvas width=200 height=200/canvas
style
#mycanvas {
width: 200;
height: 200;
}
/style
yep, right
from http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-canvas-element
The intrinsic dimensions of the
canvashttp://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-canvas-elementelement
equal the size of the coordinate space, with the numbers interpreted
in CSS pixels. However, the element can be sized arbitrarily by a style
sheet. During rendering, the image is scaled to fit this layout size.
The size of the coordinate space does not necessarily represent the size of
the actual bitmap that the user agent will use internally or during
rendering. On high-definition displays, for instance, the user agent may
internally use a bitmap with two device pixels per unit in the coordinate
space, so that the rendering remains at high quality throughout.
I don't use css for setting the canvas width and height, I always get an
unexpected result :S
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote:
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 02:36 -0700, S Page wrote:
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Martin
Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
Our pixels are rather special. If you are using Browse.xo or
anything using hulahop/gecko make sure you read Mihai Sucan's notes on
the topic... wikipage which I have now lost track of...
Probably http://wiki.laptop.org/go/HTML_canvas_performance
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I am aware of that issue but I am referring a different one.
for whatever reason a canvas pixel is not equivalent to a css pixel so
the following methods of specifying canvas dimensions are not
equivalent:
canvas id=myCanvas width=200 height=200/canvas
style
#mycanvas {
width: 200;
height: 200;
}
/style
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] project policy consensus
The policy is ok to me also. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:44:48PM -0500, David Farning wrote: At the end of last week I posted a draft project policy[1] on the mailing list. It has not received any public or private criticism. Unless I hear otherwise, I'll post it to the wiki tomorrow with a 'draft' tag. david 1. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-August/007993.html +1 In my mind it correlates with proposing ideas to Engineering Committee(since there wasn't clear consensus in ml thread for example) or more, it makes redundant existing of Engineering Committee in most cases. I mean that if there is agreement about mission statement of proposed feature(i.e. w/o any technical details of implementation) it will be much easier to find consensus with particular implementation. So, I'm waiting for final wiki page which I could use to formalize a couple of ideas for 0.88 release cycle. -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 419240] [NEW] Need instructions on how to set up a cluster of computers so they collaborate.
A crossover cable is a really interesting idea. That would be a simple way to set up two machines in a hallway to collaborate. If anyone can test it would be appreciated. I'll try to get one so we can test on Monday. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:35, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:20, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:57:57PM -0400, Mike Lee wrote: As I said in another email, I've tested the Linksys 5-port Workgroup Switch with no luck. I don't think it has got anything to do with the switch. Collaboration is known to have some bugs. FWIW: All my testing has been done over wireless, so no wired results to report. I do have a switch and 2 machines so I might be able to test over ethernet and see if I can reproduce the issue here. That would be good. Even a crossover cable between two machines would be enough to test the system. Yep thanks, wires are with a friend, will be a few days before I can test here, will give that route a test as well as a fallback if the switch is not playing well. My current best diagnosis is that the dhcpcd on Strawberry has somehow been configured without zeroconf, so it does not acquire a link-local address and bring up the interface in the absence of a DHCP server. I freely admit, though, that this diagnosis doesn't make a lot of sense, because Fedora has generally embraced zeroconf and Avahi, and there's no reason Strawberry should be different from stock Fedora in this regard. Yea, I'm not clear also on where the issue lies, hopefully reproduction of the failure in a test environment will push us in the right direction (sorry I can't do this right now) :-) Regards, --Gary -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] What operating system should I put on the donated computers for SoaS at the GPA
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Pilar Saenzmapis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Caroline Actually, we install sugar on fedora 11 and customized it to use sugar session and to have the same soas Bootloader. We has testes this process on several kind of desktop and on classmate 2. Rafael Ortiz has write some notes about the process, all in spanish, http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_un_desktop My Spanish is lousy, but it looks to me like you: 1. Install Fedora 11 with it's standard Sugar packages 2. Add some XO inspired boot animations 3. Setup GDM to automatically login a single local user 4. Install a local activity bundle The result would appear to be a machine which is dedicated for use as a Sugar machine for a single default user. The journal will be on the local hard drive. People who want to switch from machine to machine will have to copy things from the journal to some portable media (maybe USB stick). Is that a fair summary? Bill Bogstad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] What operating system should I put on the donated computers for SoaS at the GPA
Hi Caroline Actually, we install sugar on fedora 11 and customized it to use sugar session and to have the same soas Bootloader. We has testes this process on several kind of desktop and on classmate 2. Rafael Ortiz has write some notes about the process, all in spanish, http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_un_desktop http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_el_classmate Best regards, 2009/9/1 Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Our short term goal is to on Monday prep 5-10 computer to put into the GPA classrooms on Weds. So we don't need super simple or something we never have to upgrade, we will have lots of access to these computers. Also we don't need computers to be both boot-helpers and have a Guest Sugar system on them. They can be one or the other. This week is about what we can do this week. Hopefully this experience will lead us to a super simple installation that we can use for donated computers and put it into kids homes without having to worry about how we will upgrade them. I can probably find a way to generate and install a hard disk boot helper for SoaS by Monday. Whether it is based on the current CD or floppy helper will depend on on which is easier to do. I know nothing about guest Sugar systems and wouldn't even attempt to meet that kind of deadline. Bill Bogstad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- María del Pilar Sáenz Fundación Sugar Labs Colombia http://co.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] What operating system should I put on the donated computers for SoaS at the GPA
Hi Bill 2009/9/1 Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Pilar Saenzmapis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Caroline Actually, we install sugar on fedora 11 and customized it to use sugar session and to have the same soas Bootloader. We has testes this process on several kind of desktop and on classmate 2. Rafael Ortiz has write some notes about the process, all in spanish, http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_un_desktop My Spanish is lousy, but it looks to me like you: 1. Install Fedora 11 with it's standard Sugar packages 2. Add some XO inspired boot animations 3. Setup GDM to automatically login a single local user 4. Install a local activity bundle The result would appear to be a machine which is dedicated for use as a Sugar machine for a single default user. The journal will be on the local hard drive. People who want to switch from machine to machine will have to copy things from the journal to some portable media (maybe USB stick). Is that a fair summary? Yes, it is. It could be useful if you need to have sugar locally for a user without stick Bill Bogstad -- María del Pilar Sáenz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
