Re: [Sugar-devel] ATTENTION: scheduled downtime of bugs.sugarlabs.org on monday
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 23:37, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Dear Trac users, tomorrow, Monday 2010-03-08 at 21:30 UTC (22:30 CET, 16:30 EST) we're going to move Trac (bugs.sugarlabs.org) from solarsail to sunjammer. During the move Trac will be inaccessible. I apologize for the inconvenience; there's no easy way to avoid it. We have taken measures to keep the downtime as short as possible, though. Yay! Great news! Thanks, Tomeu After the move I'll be taking over Trac maintenance from bernie. I'd like to use this opportunity to thank him for all he's done for SugarLabs - and that's quite a lot! Since bernie has been quite good at keeping the various services running most people didn't notice all the work he did in the background (because things just keep running smoothly). Thanks, Bernie! CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLlCqiAAoJELpz82VMF3DabXMIAI50vpkEoPi1hKQB5y5ETRFr Ebz6YOU4p/wnh6ZgOxipYe3TIGuPnh+v5MDoNxwVtq5oWVkq0T/HWoJjXxluq6MA PD7eGsjg/aG65otEeathn5aJybZXCnbFvdJ3qr/6SnuITUCbXvmQ3vpoq4pR+Jk+ zSIZWuNtwdPFFDW3Wi2YTltZv6SP2rKBwXwcBoS/GW3/fd0+WrrEwla+nJu6PsVK 5S9jt7jJfIvCnc+6S8YOJakc8qXw7gxTa/h5EtlrSBT4i9QvIm9PTyi7nzgvu+qA BPRt8vI5euUfVsY0upNmlvLIDo2CdJJP60THNZ/l01Nb+zkPYmBO0g4JwJcrW+s= =su/c -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] ATTENTION: scheduled downtime of bugs.sugarlabs.org on monday
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 03:20, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 23:37 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: After the move I'll be taking over Trac maintenance from bernie. I'd like to use this opportunity to thank him for all he's done for SugarLabs - and that's quite a lot! Since bernie has been quite good at keeping the various services running most people didn't notice all the work he did in the background (because things just keep running smoothly). Thanks, Bernie! Thanks, and you forgot to add that Bernie needs to spend more time with his family. I'm not yet quitting Sugar Labs :-) Just handing off as much of our infrastructure as possible, so I can concentrate on the Paraguayan deployment and... other infrastructure! Would anyone step forward to take over any of the following featured items? * http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ (and switch it to Planet Venus!) * http://git.sugarlabs.org/ (major upgrade needed!) * http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ (not a lot of work) * http://www.sugarlabs.org/ (major revamp needed, maybe with Drupal) One more: * move the localization mailing list from http://lists.laptop.org to http://lists.sugarlabs.org Regards, Tomeu Take any two items and win an exclusive Sugar Labs t-shirt. Hurry up! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Systems mailing list syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] bernie quitting Sugarlabs (was: Re: ATTENTION: scheduled downtime of bugs.sugarlabs.org on monday)
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:20:10PM -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: After the move I'll be taking over Trac maintenance from bernie. I'd like to use this opportunity to thank him for all he's done for SugarLabs - [...] Thanks, and you forgot to add that Bernie needs to spend more time with his family. I'm not yet quitting Sugar Labs :-) I surely hope you don't, we need you here at Sugar Labs! Even thinking about quitting is heretical. ;) CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Development team meeting --- 08. Mar 2010 (14:00 UTC)
Hi all, today we'll hold our regular development meeting, sorry for the late notice. Current items in the agenda are: * 0.88 Release: bug database cleanup, code review, stabilization, etc Feel free to add any items yourself to the wiki, and if this time doesn't work well for you, please propose a new one. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Meetings Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] [REQUEST] Club de Othello XO-1
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:19:04AM -0300, Jorge Saldivar wrote: unfortunately we can't restrict activity to be accessible only for particular locale (imho it would be wrong way) (but we can e.g. make it Recommended for particular locale) thus other language users can download your activity. It would be useful if you add text widget with instructions how to use this activity at least in english and spanish (using regular gettext method). Later (after making it public) you can request [1] adding your activity to sugar localization infrastructure and people will translate this text into other languages. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved#Share_your_activity My activity is for blind childrens and any widget with strings does not have sense because they can not see it. heh, looks like I missed activity description One solution could be record again all the sounds in english and now i do not have enough resource to do this. we didn't have such experience before, and we don't have infrastructure to translate audio, so can't follow regular way to translate activities. Can i share anyway? Of course yes, we just need to find a way to make it clear that activity will be useful only for particular locales (for text based activities, lack of translation could be considered as temporary issue). Thanks. -- Jorge A. Saldivar G.- to all: activity page is http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4286 it is intended for visually impaired children and obviously doesn't contain text widgets and in this particular case it is prety useless for other locale users. Any ideas how we can handle such activities. maybe using special field like Works with since not all users (and even editors:) read description. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] [REQUEST] Club de Othello XO-1
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:47:17PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:19:04AM -0300, Jorge Saldivar wrote: unfortunately we can't restrict activity to be accessible only for particular locale (imho it would be wrong way) (but we can e.g. make it Recommended for particular locale) thus other language users can download your activity. It would be useful if you add text widget with instructions how to use this activity at least in english and spanish (using regular gettext method). Later (after making it public) you can request [1] adding your activity to sugar localization infrastructure and people will translate this text into other languages. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved#Share_your_activity My activity is for blind childrens and any widget with strings does not have sense because they can not see it. heh, looks like I missed activity description One solution could be record again all the sounds in english and now i do not have enough resource to do this. we didn't have such experience before, and we don't have infrastructure to translate audio, so can't follow regular way to translate activities. Can i share anyway? Of course yes, we just need to find a way to make it clear that activity will be useful only for particular locales (for text based activities, lack of translation could be considered as temporary issue). Thanks. -- Jorge A. Saldivar G.- to all: activity page is http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4286 it is intended for visually impaired children and obviously doesn't contain text widgets and in this particular case it is prety useless for other locale users. this particular case means that activity uses audio notificaitons to inform and instruct user Any ideas how we can handle such activities. maybe using special field like Works with since not all users (and even editors:) read description. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] [REQUEST] Club de Othello XO-1
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:47:17PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:19:04AM -0300, Jorge Saldivar wrote: unfortunately we can't restrict activity to be accessible only for particular locale (imho it would be wrong way) (but we can e.g. make it Recommended for particular locale) thus other language users can download your activity. It would be useful if you add text widget with instructions how to use this activity at least in english and spanish (using regular gettext method). Later (after making it public) you can request [1] adding your activity to sugar localization infrastructure and people will translate this text into other languages. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved#Share_your_activity My activity is for blind childrens and any widget with strings does not have sense because they can not see it. heh, looks like I missed activity description One solution could be record again all the sounds in english and now i do not have enough resource to do this. we didn't have such experience before, and we don't have infrastructure to translate audio, so can't follow regular way to translate activities. Can i share anyway? Of course yes, we just need to find a way to make it clear that activity will be useful only for particular locales (for text based activities, lack of translation could be considered as temporary issue). anyway I'm making it public, since description in spanish makes it clear that activity could be useful only for spanish speaking people. Thanks. -- Jorge A. Saldivar G.- to all: activity page is http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4286 it is intended for visually impaired children and obviously doesn't contain text widgets and in this particular case it is prety useless for other locale users. Any ideas how we can handle such activities. maybe using special field like Works with since not all users (and even editors:) read description. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Club de Othello XO-1
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4286 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26824/clubothello-1.xo Release notes: Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] ATTENTION: scheduled downtime of bugs.sugarlabs.org on monday
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:03 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: One more: * move the localization mailing list from http://lists.laptop.org to http://lists.sugarlabs.org Ok. Sayamindu, shall we coordinate on this? We'd have to move the archives and add a forward rule for the old list administrative addresses. It's been already done for a bunch of lists, so you should find breadcrumbs on the laptop.org side. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] [REQUEST] Club de Othello XO-1
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:47:17PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:19:04AM -0300, Jorge Saldivar wrote: unfortunately we can't restrict activity to be accessible only for particular locale (imho it would be wrong way) (but we can e.g. make it Recommended for particular locale) thus other language users can download your activity. It would be useful if you add text widget with instructions how to use this activity at least in english and spanish (using regular gettext method). Later (after making it public) you can request [1] adding your activity to sugar localization infrastructure and people will translate this text into other languages. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved#Share_your_activity My activity is for blind childrens and any widget with strings does not have sense because they can not see it. heh, looks like I missed activity description One solution could be record again all the sounds in english and now i do not have enough resource to do this. we didn't have such experience before, and we don't have infrastructure to translate audio, so can't follow regular way to translate activities. We do support text to speech in Sugar, so it may be that some level of localization would be possible down the road. There are also ways to refer to different language-/location-based files, so if there were someone interested in translating your audio, we could accommodate it. regards. -walter Can i share anyway? Of course yes, we just need to find a way to make it clear that activity will be useful only for particular locales (for text based activities, lack of translation could be considered as temporary issue). anyway I'm making it public, since description in spanish makes it clear that activity could be useful only for spanish speaking people. Thanks. -- Jorge A. Saldivar G.- to all: activity page is http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4286 it is intended for visually impaired children and obviously doesn't contain text widgets and in this particular case it is prety useless for other locale users. Any ideas how we can handle such activities. maybe using special field like Works with since not all users (and even editors:) read description. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] [REQUEST] Club de Othello XO-1
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:10:19AM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:47:17PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:19:04AM -0300, Jorge Saldivar wrote: unfortunately we can't restrict activity to be accessible only for particular locale (imho it would be wrong way) (but we can e.g. make it Recommended for particular locale) thus other language users can download your activity. It would be useful if you add text widget with instructions how to use this activity at least in english and spanish (using regular gettext method). Later (after making it public) you can request [1] adding your activity to sugar localization infrastructure and people will translate this text into other languages. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved#Share_your_activity My activity is for blind childrens and any widget with strings does not have sense because they can not see it. heh, looks like I missed activity description One solution could be record again all the sounds in english and now i do not have enough resource to do this. we didn't have such experience before, and we don't have infrastructure to translate audio, so can't follow regular way to translate activities. We do support text to speech in Sugar, so it may be that some level of localization would be possible down the road. There are also ways to refer to different language-/location-based files, so if there were someone interested in translating your audio, we could accommodate it. heh, obvious catch Jorge Saldivar: are you familiar with such stuff?, if not I can help to add TTS feature to your activity and we can have text (thus reuse existed traslators infrastructure) and sound all notification in all languages espeak(e.g.) supports. regards. -walter Can i share anyway? Of course yes, we just need to find a way to make it clear that activity will be useful only for particular locales (for text based activities, lack of translation could be considered as temporary issue). anyway I'm making it public, since description in spanish makes it clear that activity could be useful only for spanish speaking people. Thanks. -- Jorge A. Saldivar G.- to all: activity page is http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4286 it is intended for visually impaired children and obviously doesn't contain text widgets and in this particular case it is prety useless for other locale users. Any ideas how we can handle such activities. maybe using special field like Works with since not all users (and even editors:) read description. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [Fwd: Re: [ASLO] [REQUEST] Club de Othello XO-1]
-- Jorge A. Saldivar G.- ---BeginMessage--- We do support text to speech in Sugar, so it may be that some level of localization would be possible down the road. There are also ways to refer to different language-/location-based files, so if there were someone interested in translating your audio, we could accommodate it. regards. -walter Could be, but 60% of the sounds are pre recorded voices that I record with peoples who makes the different voices of the hiperhistory characters. This was made in this way because I do not want the "robotic" pronuntation of the spanish voice in text to speech. May be in english the voice pronuntation is better.- regards -- Jorge A. Saldivar G.- ---End Message--- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [MINUTES] Development team meeting --- 8. Mar 2010 (14:00 UTC)
Hi, the development team has just had one more meeting, minutes: 09:45:49ACTION tomeu alsroot to make a new datastore release in the 0.86 branch 09:48:24ACTION tomeu Tomeu to go through his review queue tomorrow 09:53:02ACTION tomeu silbe will look at the fsync tickets 09:53:32ACTION tomeu alsroot to look at his review queue soonish 09:59:28ACTION tomeu silbe to look at a report that is sent automatically every week noting which tickets are in the review queue and for long. also spot tickets that have been in r! for too long and may be stuck 10:14:42ACTION tomeu tomeu to find out which new dependencies we have because of the 3g stuff People Present: 1. tomeu 2. silbe 3. alsroot 4. Daniel_C and log: http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20100308_0915.html Next one in two weeks unless someone wants to propose an extraordinary meeting before. Cheers, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] 3g dependencies
Hi all, which new dependencies we need to advertise in Sugar because of the work in 3g devices? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.86.2
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.86.2.tar.bz2 == News == * rebuild index on migration #1787 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3g dependencies
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: which new dependencies we need to advertise in Sugar because of the work in 3g devices? Do they need to be dependencies (from a packaging PoV)? Always better to discover if the needed component is there at startup/runtime and offer the extra functionality... if possible... NM already does this for a number of components (ppptp, etc). cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3g dependencies
It's a bad idea to do it for any bit in the networking stack. If your only internet connection is over pptp, how can NM download and install the pptp bits? I've personally had loads of trouble with this. Same for 3g. I think they should be dependencies. On 8 March 2010 15:32, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: which new dependencies we need to advertise in Sugar because of the work in 3g devices? Do they need to be dependencies (from a packaging PoV)? Always better to discover if the needed component is there at startup/runtime and offer the extra functionality... if possible... NM already does this for a number of components (ppptp, etc). cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3g dependencies
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 16:32, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: which new dependencies we need to advertise in Sugar because of the work in 3g devices? Do they need to be dependencies (from a packaging PoV)? Always better to discover if the needed component is there at startup/runtime and offer the extra functionality... if possible... NM already does this for a number of components (ppptp, etc). Yup, this is for documentation purposes, oriented towards packagers, distributors and deployers. They will do whatever they want, but we wanted to document these dependencies. Regards, Tomeu cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3g dependencies
Maybe the option.ko driver. We have added this module to XO image: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9684 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 16:32, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: which new dependencies we need to advertise in Sugar because of the work in 3g devices? Do they need to be dependencies (from a packaging PoV)? Always better to discover if the needed component is there at startup/runtime and offer the extra functionality... if possible... NM already does this for a number of components (ppptp, etc). Yup, this is for documentation purposes, oriented towards packagers, distributors and deployers. They will do whatever they want, but we wanted to document these dependencies. Regards, Tomeu cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 601.57.73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Test recap: start new vs. resume
Hi all Yesterday, Simon and Gerald filled the group in on the results of the tests conducted recently to understand the merits of a home view with start new as the default behavior for activity icons in the ring. The interesting conclusion in both cases was that children don't necessarily have an idea of whether they want to resume a previous activity or start a new one *before* clicking the activity icon. Rather, they start by simply wanting to engage with a particular activity, and the decision whether to resume or start new follows. In other words, the two functions are equal, without one taking precedence over the other. Children appear to want the choice. We have seen this expressed in the desire to want to start new or resume directly from inside the activity, though there will be other possible solutions. Also noteworthy is that children don't discover the hover palette at first, so it is questionable whether we can rely on the menu it's current implementation to accomplish our goals for start new/resume. I suggested that we reconvene on Saturday at 10:30 EST / 3:30 UTC to brainstorm design solutions. Thanks, Christian ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.87.3
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.87.3.tar.bz2 == News == * rebuild index on migration #1787 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.87.7 Tarballs Due
Dear Sucrose Maintainers, please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.87.7 unstable release [1] by the end of the 9th of March 2010 and announce them as explained at [2]. This will be our Release Candidate! So, please clean up the Features, go over the review queue and fix the open bugs. Thanks, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.88/Roadmap#Schedule [2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#Module_release ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3g dependencies
[cc += harald] On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 16:36 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Yup, this is for documentation purposes, oriented towards packagers, distributors and deployers. They will do whatever they want, but we wanted to document these dependencies. Only OS-side dependencies that shouldn't concern Sugar directly. In Fedora 11, in addition to what we have already, we need an updated udev (version 145), which also depends on a newer usbutils (0.82). This is necessary to witch hybrid modems into comm mode. I back-ported both these packages from Fedora 12. I didn't notice any regressions so far. I've discussed this briefly with Harald Hoyer, who is both the Fedora packager and the upstream maintainer. If it turns out to be too risky for a F-11 update, we'll have to carry these two packages around in the custom repositories for F11-XO1 and F11-XO1.5. I've also backported all the 10 Sugar patches: http://git.paraguayeduca.org/gitweb/users/bernie/sugar-0.84-3g.git Plus two trivial sugar-artwork patches: http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/patches/sugar/sugar-artwork/0001-Add-network-gsm-icon.patch http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/patches/sugar/sugar-artwork/0002-eliminate-dupe-battery-charging-100.patch The backported patches have just been massaged enough to apply with no rejects. I tried to be diligent and not loose any bits in the process. Martin (tch) and I are have still not done any serious debugging yet. Wireless networking still works with these patches applied, and the modem control panel also works. 3G devices show up in the panel, but you can't connect just yet. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] request for help from activity authors
Hi, as part of the collaboration refactoring, I would appreciate it a lot if activity authors could go through the API in the link below and update the Used by lines if they are using any of it or know some activity that makes use of it: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Presence_Service_Removal We'll discuss afterwards how we can minimize the work required to adapt activities to the new code. Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] 3g dependencies
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:55 -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: In Fedora 11, in addition to what we have already, we need an updated udev (version 145), which also depends on a newer usbutils (0.82). This is necessary to witch hybrid modems into comm mode. Oh, and we have to add ModemManager to the build, of course. Plus two trivial sugar-artwork patches: http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/patches/sugar/sugar-artwork/0001-Add-network-gsm-icon.patch http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/patches/sugar/sugar-artwork/0002-eliminate-dupe-battery-charging-100.patch Wrong link. These are the correct ones: http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/patches/sugar/sugar-artwork/pending/0001-Add-network-gsm-icon.patch http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/patches/sugar/sugar-artwork/pending/0002-eliminate-dupe-battery-charging-100.patch -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] bugs.sugarlabs.org up again (was: ATTENTION: scheduled downtime of bugs.sugarlabs.org on monday)
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:37:25PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: tomorrow, Monday 2010-03-08 at 21:30 UTC (22:30 CET, 16:30 EST) we're going to move Trac (bugs.sugarlabs.org) from solarsail to sunjammer. Switch-over completed successfully, no major obstacles. Reacts a _lot_ faster now. Please report anything that stopped working properly (via Trac ticket, IRC or email to systems@). CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
