Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] hide OLPC mesh icon in frame when mesh is not being used
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 02:15:43AM +0100, Gary Martin wrote: On 10 Jul 2010, at 23:19, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, In http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2086, Simon raised the question: Do we want to hide the OLPC mesh icon (which currently appears all the time in the frame, if you're running an XO-1) when we are not connected to the mesh? Daniel Does anyone recall the rationale for including it to begin with? Unlike the ad hoc icon, you cannot use it to create a mesh network (or can you?) No sorry, I can't remember that discussion either. It would seem to be sensible to hide devices and/or CP modules when ever we can test if the specific functionality is available. There is an argument of discoverability (i.e. how do you know Sugar supports 3G connection if you don't see a 3G CP module for it), but that inexorably leads to a more cluttered UI over time (slowing down discovery of perhaps other more important features). With Sugar targeting more hardware configurations, hiding seems the sane design choice — making sure new features are clearly documented in release notes, which they have been so far, thanks Simon! That made me think of the activity circle and favorites. maybe have certain 'favorites' and allow others to be added as needed or to have then become favorites if the HW is detected. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux ==.| http://kevix.myopenid.com..| | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/.| | `. `' http://www.debian.org/.| http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd,.assume I am subscribed._| ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Missing Jacket
[cc += sugar-de...@] El Tue, 06-07-2010 a las 07:32 -0400, Samuel Klein escribió: Bernie -- I meant to send this to you earlier -- you will be pleased to know that I got to know someone devoted to the demoscene when I was in Oxford the other week, and he is bound and determined now to get modern demos working on XOs. I think this would make a really fantastic collection to ship... and a nice language-free encouragement to learn to hack (or make art and music :-). That's amazing! Please, also have a look to my TODO list of old-skool activities: == Bernie's Retro Activities == XaoS SoundTracker GrafX2 Golly Mame Geeki TextEdit Of these, I only ported XaoS--it's on ASLO. For SoundTracker, I have an unfinished port to GTK2... It would need some more work. All the others are straight-forward. To ease porting non-native software, we should implement the startup-notification protocol in Sugar. Currently, Sugar uses a custom handshake protocol which requires activities to do set custom atoms in their main window and talk over DBus. There's a sugarize wrapper script which fools Sugar, but it's hardly an ideal solution. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity title update
El Tue, 06-07-2010 a las 20:20 +1000, James Cameron escribió: And, for what it is worth, Sugar 0.84 only connects the focus-out-event, it doesn't connect changed. Also, it avoids a save if the name is unchanged. IIRC, 0.84 was using the changed event too. I patched it myself to use focus-out-event... Your patch seems to have the same issue of my fix: if someone changes the title and presses ctrl-w before 1 second, the title does not update. Moreover, like in the current code in git, sometimes you get a spurious save while you're typing, causing your keystroke to be lost and the cursor to be reset to the beginning of the field. Tomeu's testcase proved that gtk delivers focus-out-event reliably with normal buttons. We need to figure out why it doesn't seem to be the case in toolbars. Maybe we could add a few prints in the callbacks. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Missing Jacket
El Tue, 06-07-2010 a las 07:32 -0400, Samuel Klein escribió: Bernie -- I meant to send this to you earlier -- you will be pleased to know that I got to know someone devoted to the demoscene when I was in Oxford the other week, and he is bound and determined now to get modern demos working on XOs. I think this would make a really fantastic collection to ship... and a nice language-free encouragement to learn to hack (or make art and music :-). I would love if one of these demos (running in, say, 2% of CPU time) could replace the boot-time animation. Should much more interesting than our present incredibly staid bootup. Bonus points, of course, if the same demo is available in some Activity for students to dissect. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] WikiBrowse from sugar-emulator (ubuntu 10.04) ?
Thanks Sascha. Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org writes: Excerpts from Bastien's message of Sat Jul 10 16:11:17 + 2010: He installed Sugar on Ubuntu 10.04 with sugar-emulator 0.88 then tried to install WikipediaEN from these packages : * http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/WikipediaEN-4.xo * http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/eswiki/Wikipedia-10.xo Ubuntu removed python-xpcom for 10.04, so hulahop and anything based on it (Browse, Wikipedia, ...) is broken. ~$ sudo apt-get install python-xpcom should do it, right? I forwarded your message to Emmanuel, we will digg this further. Best, -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] WikiBrowse from sugar-emulator (ubuntu 10.04) ?
On 12 July 2010 03:23, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Thanks Sascha. Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org writes: Excerpts from Bastien's message of Sat Jul 10 16:11:17 + 2010: He installed Sugar on Ubuntu 10.04 with sugar-emulator 0.88 then tried to install WikipediaEN from these packages : * http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/WikipediaEN-4.xo * http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/eswiki/Wikipedia-10.xo Ubuntu removed python-xpcom for 10.04, so hulahop and anything based on it (Browse, Wikipedia, ...) is broken. ~$ sudo apt-get install python-xpcom should do it, right? The python-xpcom package is not in Lucid unfortunately [1].. The source is available from Mozilla [2]. Good luck. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/480407 [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en/pyxpcom ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] icon-slicer and sugar-artwork
Excerpts from pbrobin...@gmail.com's message of Sun Jul 11 16:47:41 + 2010: [...] It currently needs icon-slicer but I think its an old dep that is still in configure.ac but no longer used, if I drop it out of configure.ac and rebuilt it all builds OK without it. It will fail, but in a non-obvious way. Here's the relevant part of the build log after applying your patch and removing icon-slicer from the system: make[3]: Entering directory `/home/sascha.silbe/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar-artwork/cursor/sugar' image-dir=../../cursor/sugar --output-dir=../../cursor/sugar ../../cursor/sugar/sugar.cursortheme /bin/bash: image-dir=../../cursor/sugar: No such file or directory make[3]: [sugar.stamp] Error 127 (ignored) Let's take a look at the corresponding make rule: sascha.si...@xo-bine:~/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar-artwork$ grep -B 1 -A 2 ICON_SLICER cursor/sugar/Makefile.am sugar.stamp: $(sugar_images) $(THEMEGEN) sugar.cursortheme $(ICON_SLICER) --image-dir=$(IMAGE_DIR) --output-dir=$(OUTPUT_DIR) $(IMAGE_DIR)/sugar.cursortheme touch sugar.stamp Since ICON_SLICER is never set, $(ICON_SLICER) will expand to the empty string. So the line make tries to execute is: --image-dir=../../cursor/sugar --output-dir=../../cursor/sugar ../../cursor/sugar/sugar.cursortheme A leading minus means ignore the exit status of this command and will be removed prior to executing the command. Apparently the second minus is stripped as well, so make will try to execute image-dir=../../cursor/sugar --output-dir=../../cursor/sugar ../../cursor/sugar/sugar.cursortheme and ignore the exit status. See Debian #555963 for what will happen at runtime if icon-slicer doesn't work (or isn't installed). Sascha [1] http://bugs.debian.org/555963 -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] icon-slicer and sugar-artwork
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from pbrobin...@gmail.com's message of Sun Jul 11 16:47:41 + 2010: [...] It currently needs icon-slicer but I think its an old dep that is still in configure.ac but no longer used, if I drop it out of configure.ac and rebuilt it all builds OK without it. It will fail, but in a non-obvious way. Here's the relevant part of the build log after applying your patch and removing icon-slicer from the system: make[3]: Entering directory `/home/sascha.silbe/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar-artwork/cursor/sugar' image-dir=../../cursor/sugar --output-dir=../../cursor/sugar ../../cursor/sugar/sugar.cursortheme /bin/bash: image-dir=../../cursor/sugar: No such file or directory make[3]: [sugar.stamp] Error 127 (ignored) Let's take a look at the corresponding make rule: sascha.si...@xo-bine:~/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar-artwork$ grep -B 1 -A 2 ICON_SLICER cursor/sugar/Makefile.am sugar.stamp: $(sugar_images) $(THEMEGEN) sugar.cursortheme $(ICON_SLICER) --image-dir=$(IMAGE_DIR) --output-dir=$(OUTPUT_DIR) $(IMAGE_DIR)/sugar.cursortheme touch sugar.stamp Since ICON_SLICER is never set, $(ICON_SLICER) will expand to the empty string. So the line make tries to execute is: --image-dir=../../cursor/sugar --output-dir=../../cursor/sugar ../../cursor/sugar/sugar.cursortheme A leading minus means ignore the exit status of this command and will be removed prior to executing the command. Apparently the second minus is stripped as well, so make will try to execute image-dir=../../cursor/sugar --output-dir=../../cursor/sugar ../../cursor/sugar/sugar.cursortheme and ignore the exit status. See Debian #555963 for what will happen at runtime if icon-slicer doesn't work (or isn't installed). Interesting, icon-slicer is only a build time dep in Fedora and so isn't installed at runtime. Unless you mean build time in referring to run time? Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pathagar issue: I figured it out
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Sayamindu, I figured out how to set up Pathagar and get it running. I'm going to be writing it up in my book. One comment: the book list shows the books in sequence by how they were entered into the database. I would think other sort sequences would be more useful. Second comment: I'd make the pictures for the book cover display larger. You have the space on the page, why not use it? Also, I wouldn't necessarily call it a cover. Books in the public domain don't have nice book jackets, but they do have nice title pages, interior illustrations, etc. The image that represents the book best is not necessarily its cover. I ended up commenting out the entries in settings.py that refer to the debug toolbar. You might put in comments showing how to do that. James Simmons ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel I did the same...commented out the debug stuff. Nice project! I can see how this would be immensely useful on a school server where books/media have to be served outside of a course, like a local public library. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Campus Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] icon-slicer and sugar-artwork
Excerpts from pbrobin...@gmail.com's message of Sun Jul 11 19:20:47 + 2010: See Debian #555963 for what will happen at runtime if icon-slicer doesn't work (or isn't installed). Interesting, icon-slicer is only a build time dep in Fedora and so isn't installed at runtime. Unless you mean build time in referring to run time? Symptoms like in Debian #555963 [1] will occur at runtime if icon-slicer is missing or broken at build time. You don't need icon-slicer at runtime. Sascha [1] http://bugs.debian.org/555963 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add cpu and memory resource indicator to frame
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 01:04:37PM +0530, anishmangal2002 wrote: This patch adds an icon to the frame, whose palette menu displays the memory and cpu resources. For computing free memory, the code reads the /proc/meminfo file (thanks quozl) and for computing cpu usage, the code reads the /proc/stat file. The palette menu entries are only updated (in one second intervals) when the palette menu is visible thus possibly saving cpu cycles. Signed-off-by: anishmangal2002 anishmangal2...@gmail.com Reviewed-by: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
