Re: [Sugar-devel] Help testing new sugar packages in F14
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:
On 08/18/2010 11:52 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
Hi,
to get the new Sugar release 0.90 [1] into shape and make it a stable
release we want people to test the nightly Soas snapshots [2]. In order
to get the new packaged tarballs into those builds they have to meet
certain criteria first [3], hence we need people testing them.
You can simply do this by getting the rpms from koji and install them
into your latest soas snapshot and restart Sugar. What I do in short is:
- open the Browse activity and go to http://koji.fedoraproject.org
- search for the package (sugar, sugar-toolkit...)
- click on the latest F14 version and then right-click on the download
option of the 'noarch' rpm and choose 'copy link' from the palette (if
you download directly it is stored in the Journal)
- then open the terminal activity log in as root and you can copy in the
address here using ctrl+shift+v or the edit tab in the toolbar
- the command for updating the rpm is: 'rpm -U [name of rpm]'
With 2.6.34.3-37.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 21:09:58 UTC 2010 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux,
this resulted in this error for me:
could not do simulate: sugar-toolkit-0.89.3-1.fc14.x86_64 requires
python(abi) = 2.7
Even after installing Python-2.7.tgz.tar with make install,
Python 2.7 (r27:82500, Aug 19 2010, 18:44:48)
[GCC 4.4.4 20100630 (Red Hat 4.4.4-10)] on linux2
{...}
Actually, you can use as well the updates testing repository to test new
rpms. Completely forgot about that.
yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update sugar sugar-toolkit...
After adding the updates-testing repo and new packages, yum update sugar
sugar-toolkit ...
yielded:
No Packages marked for Update
{...}
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help testing new sugar packages in F14
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:
On 08/18/2010 11:52 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
Hi,
to get the new Sugar release 0.90 [1] into shape and make it a stable
release we want people to test the nightly Soas snapshots [2]. In order
to get the new packaged tarballs into those builds they have to meet
certain criteria first [3], hence we need people testing them.
You can simply do this by getting the rpms from koji and install them
into your latest soas snapshot and restart Sugar. What I do in short is:
- open the Browse activity and go to http://koji.fedoraproject.org
- search for the package (sugar, sugar-toolkit...)
- click on the latest F14 version and then right-click on the download
option of the 'noarch' rpm and choose 'copy link' from the palette (if
you download directly it is stored in the Journal)
- then open the terminal activity log in as root and you can copy in the
address here using ctrl+shift+v or the edit tab in the toolbar
- the command for updating the rpm is: 'rpm -U [name of rpm]'
With 2.6.34.3-37.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 21:09:58 UTC 2010 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux,
this resulted in this error for me:
could not do simulate: sugar-toolkit-0.89.3-1.fc14.x86_64 requires
python(abi) = 2.7
Even after installing Python-2.7.tgz.tar with make install,
Python 2.7 (r27:82500, Aug 19 2010, 18:44:48)
[GCC 4.4.4 20100630 (Red Hat 4.4.4-10)] on linux2
{...}
Actually, you can use as well the updates testing repository to test new
rpms. Completely forgot about that.
yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update sugar sugar-toolkit...
After adding the updates-testing repo and new packages, yum update sugar
sugar-toolkit ...
yielded:
No Packages marked for Update
Testing with 2.6.35-0.57.rc6.git1.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 26 22:43:02 UTC
2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux,
from
soas-x86_64-20100818.16.isohttp://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/soas/soas-x86_64-20100818.16.isoyielded:
[r...@localhost ~]# yum update sugar sugar-toolkit sugar-presence-service
sugar-base sugar-artwork
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Adding en_US to language list
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package sugar.noarch 0:0.89.3-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package sugar-artwork.x86_64 0:0.89.3-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package sugar-base.x86_64 0:0.90.0-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package sugar-presence-service.noarch 0:0.90.0-1.fc14 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: telepathy-mission-control for package:
sugar-presence-service-0.90.0-1.fc14.noarch
--- Package sugar-toolkit.x86_64 0:0.89.3-1.fc14 set to be updated
-- Running transaction check
--- Package telepathy-mission-control.x86_64 1:5.4.3-1.fc14 set to be
installed
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Dependencies Resolved
=
PackageArch
Version Repository
Size
=
Updating:
sugar noarch
0.89.3-1.fc14 updates-testing
653 k
sugar-artwork x86_64
0.89.3-1.fc14 updates-testing
151 k
sugar-base x86_64
0.90.0-1.fc14 updates-testing
60 k
sugar-presence-service noarch
0.90.0-1.fc14 updates-testing
108 k
sugar-toolkit x86_64
0.89.3-1.fc14 updates-testing
324 k
Installing for dependencies:
telepathy-mission-control x86_64
1:5.4.3-1.fc14fedora
398 k
Transaction Summary
=
Install 1 Package(s)
Upgrade 5 Package(s)
Total download size: 1.7 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
updates-testing/prestodelta
| 213 kB 00:02
fedora/prestodelta
| 104 kB 00:01
Processing delta metadata
/usr/share/sugar/data/activities.defaults: contents have been changed
delta does not match installed data
Download delta size: 194 k
(1/4):
sugar-artwork-0.89.2-1.fc14_0.89.3-1.fc14.x86_64.drpm
| 79 kB 00:00
(2/4):
sugar-base-0.88.0-2.fc14_0.90.0-1.fc14.x86_64.drpm
| 25 kB 00:00
(3/4):
sugar-presence-service-0.88.0-1.fc14_0.90.0-1.fc14.noarch.drpm
| 30 kB 00:00
(4/4):
Re: [Sugar-devel] code submitted for review should have been tested
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 20:52, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Because of this specific commit, file transfers have been broken since early this year and it's obvious that this code wasn't tested at all: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/repos/mainline/commits/11828796 Given the current poor state of our testing efforts, committers should be extra careful about this. Out of curiosity: what was the failure? It's not obvious to me, in reading the patch; I can see how problems wouldn't be caught by a reviewer. If it's a Python syntax problem, you might consider using a tool to automatically report (ie, via email or directly into a bugtracker) uncaught python exceptions. That would give you better coverage at least of brain-dead it will crash as soon as you try to use it problems. These are the fixes, I think pylint would have detected them: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/repos/mainline/commits/177cbfab http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/repos/mainline/commits/fbd1f1e7 Regards, Tomeu --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Class vs. Exec activity.info
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 20:02, Justin Lewis jtl1...@rit.edu wrote: Is there a documentation location that keeps a master list of API changes? Doing a quick search didn't seem to turn up anything that is up to date. Not that I know, would be great to have that (and also a plan about how our API will evolve). Regards, Tomeu Justin Lewis http://jlewopensource.com On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 17:38, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 17 August 2010 09:30, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: sorry for the confusion. I was quite confident that those fields were not in use anymore :/ I reverted the commit and added a warning that is printed when used. Whats the motivation for removing the field? To me, naming a class is more logical than having to add some arbitrary command to each and every activity. So we don't have one mechanism for python activities and another for non-python activities. Regards, Tomeu Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Use GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS
Hi, for which module is this patch? Regards, Tomeu On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:24, ma...@marcopg.org wrote: From: Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org It's consistent with the rest of core modules and should give us better compiler flags (plus options to tweak them). --- configure.ac | 4 +--- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac index 8606785..3ade698 100644 --- a/configure.ac +++ b/configure.ac @@ -11,9 +11,7 @@ AM_DISABLE_STATIC PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG([0.19]) -dnl These catch plenty of subtle bugs and miscompilation problems -WARN_CFLAGS=-Wall -W -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -AC_SUBST(WARN_CFLAGS) +GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS(maximum) AC_PROG_CC AC_HEADER_STDC -- 1.7.0.4 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Appropriate to call myself senior developer?
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 22:00, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: This thread has made me wistful. I go to a conference every year called No Fluff Just Stuff. The guy who runs it has the title Meme Wrangler. I've had several different titles at my day job, every one more dismal than the last. The work and the pay doesn't change, just the title. What I wouldn't give to be a Meme Wrangler, or a Wizard, or a Lord High Executioner, or even an Oompah-Loompah, even if the job didn't pay anything. Maybe that could be an inducement to volunteer for Sugar Labs. Make a significant contribution and somebody in authority, maybe Walter Bender, gives you a cool title. Maybe a signed certificate you could hang in the office of your day job. Sounds good if it encourages people to take bits of responsibility. Regards, Tomeu James Simmons Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:26:33 -0400 From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Appropriate to call myself senior developer? To: Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org Message-ID: 1281889593.1936.237.ca...@giskard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 El Sun, 15-08-2010 a las 11:41 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribi?: ...as long as I can be Senior Wizard Extraordinaire and ?berhaxc0r at Sugar Labs and everywhere else :-) Calling ourselves wizards would be interesting. Oompa-Loompas might be more appropriate :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oompa-Loompa -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:48, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Also, note that sticking to the current dependencies won't allow us to keep jhbuild lean because we'd have to build old stuff for distros such as Fedora. I think Sascha is right that a jhbuild which supports a GNOME 3.0 based Sugar on old distributions would be unmaintainable. It will be a lot of effort and it will break most of the time anyway. We need to move in the opposite direction (i.e. getting rid of jhbuild completely as soon as possible). But to me that means we need to move on and let distributions keep up. If Debian doesn't support a modern stack developers will either deal with the problem themself (by building stuff from source, custom packages etc) or use a different distribution. We just can't do anything about it and it should not be our focus anyway. I have no problem myself in this course of action, as I have switched distros before because of Sugar and would do it again. But I think some present contributions do have problems? Something to consider is a general API break while we are moving to introspection and gtk 3.0, which might need a longer development cycle, in parallel with bare maintenance of the stable stack. A slightly longer transition period should help everyone and breaking (err fixing) as much as we can at the same time will make sure we are able to support the new API for a longer time. Hmm, do you have more details already? Thanks, Tomeu Marco ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Use GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, for which module is this patch? Heh, sorry, I somehow assumed sugar-artwork would appear in the patch... Marco ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. there's speechdispatcher in fedora that is used by kde and gnome and I currently maintain it. It was also at some point used by olpc as the spec file use to have olpc specifics in it. There's been renewed interest with it upstream and I'm working to get it into better shape for F-14 and once its cleaned up I'll push updates back to F-13 and probably F-12. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature Freeze exception request: spiral extension to Home View feature
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 15:28, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I am requesting an exception to Feature Freeze. I just completed what I hope to be the final clean up of the spiral extension to the Home View. The ticket is here: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2143 The patch is here: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/2143/0001-adding-spiral-extension-to-Ring-View.patch The feature request is here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Spiral_Home_View The discussion thread with the design team is here: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-August/025953.html Thank you for your consideration. +1 Thanks a lot for making the case so clear. Regards, Tomeu regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
Yes, there are interest in La Rioja, Argentina. In olpc-sur there are request for this. Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there are interest in La Rioja, Argentina. In olpc-sur there are request for this. Great, do we have people there who can try things out and help decide what remains to be done? Regards, Tomeu Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
In this thread http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2010-April/005829.html there are people interested. You can contact Esteban Arias also http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-February/001653.html Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there are interest in La Rioja, Argentina. In olpc-sur there are request for this. Great, do we have people there who can try things out and help decide what remains to be done? Regards, Tomeu Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard Responsable de Desarrollo (pasando la antorcha...) Sistemas Australes ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
hi, we can colaborate with this proyect. 2010/8/20 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com In this thread http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2010-April/005829.html there are people interested. You can contact Esteban Arias also http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-February/001653.html Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there are interest in La Rioja, Argentina. In olpc-sur there are request for this. Great, do we have people there who can try things out and help decide what remains to be done? Regards, Tomeu Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard Responsable de Desarrollo (pasando la antorcha...) Sistemas Australes ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Esteban Arias Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 601.57.73 Interno 2228 E-mail : ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:08, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: hi, we can colaborate with this proyect. Excelent, have you tried already orca with Sugar? And with GNOME? Regards, Tomeu 2010/8/20 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com In this thread http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2010-April/005829.html there are people interested. You can contact Esteban Arias also http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-February/001653.html Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there are interest in La Rioja, Argentina. In olpc-sur there are request for this. Great, do we have people there who can try things out and help decide what remains to be done? Regards, Tomeu Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard Responsable de Desarrollo (pasando la antorcha...) Sistemas Australes ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Esteban Arias Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 601.57.73 Interno 2228 E-mail : ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.1.2382
On 08/20/2010 12:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: * fix DBus service methods * fix NavBar not showing Sugar buttons * fix 'length' and 'width' being read-only * flip commands renamed to 'flip left right' and 'flip up down' * fix QuickGuides showing up twice == Changes since 4.0 == * switched to etoys.squeak.org/svn repo * translations broken up in smaller files * activity version will not track etoys version anymore * QuickGuides translated to Spanish, Portuguese, German, Italian, and (some) French * added DrGeo for exploring geometry * sketches support flipping * geometry tiles for the world * timer tile (world and other playfields) * can store preferences * plus bug fixes Thanks Bert and the whole Etoys team, these are great news! Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: screenreader for sugar
Forwarded to accessibil...@lists.laptop.org Forwarded conversation Subject: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar From: *Tomeu Vizoso* to...@sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:16 AM To: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- From: *pbrobin...@gmail.com* pbrobin...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:07 AM To: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org there's speechdispatcher in fedora that is used by kde and gnome and I currently maintain it. It was also at some point used by olpc as the spec file use to have olpc specifics in it. There's been renewed interest with it upstream and I'm working to get it into better shape for F-14 and once its cleaned up I'll push updates back to F-13 and probably F-12. Peter -- From: *Gonzalo Odiard* godi...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:53 AM To: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Yes, there are interest in La Rioja, Argentina. In olpc-sur there are request for this. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- From: *Tomeu Vizoso* to...@sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:41 AM To: Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Great, do we have people there who can try things out and help decide what remains to be done? Regards, Tomeu -- From: *Gonzalo Odiard* godi...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:57 AM To: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org In this thread http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2010-April/005829.html there are people interested. You can contact Esteban Arias also http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-February/001653.html Gonzalo -- Gonzalo Odiard Responsable de Desarrollo (pasando la antorcha...) Sistemas Australes ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- From: *Esteban Arias* ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:08 AM To: Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org hi, we can colaborate with this proyect. 2010/8/20 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com -- Esteban Arias Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 601.57.73 Interno 2228 E-mail : ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- From: *Tomeu Vizoso* to...@sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:10 AM To: Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy Cc: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Excelent, have you tried already orca with Sugar? And with GNOME? Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.1.2382
On 08/20/2010 12:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: This is another alpha release for Etoys 4.1. There were some Sugar bugs that needed immediate fixing. == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2382.tar.gz Just in case someone is bumping into that, the link should be (if i am not completely wrong): http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.1.2382.tar.gz Regards, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.89.3 Development Release
Dear Sugar Community, This is our third release in the 0.90 development cycle [1]! We now reached Feature Freeze! We are glad to announce that two Features have been pushed already. A new color selector [2] is available for the control panel, thanks to the ongoing efforts of Walter Bender and the design team. We already wanted to land the Feature in 0.88 but had so many ideas that we did not reach consensus in the end, thanks to everyone involved! Now, we are excited to hear what the learners think about it. To mimic the mesh behavior on devices where mesh hardware is not available and make the under a tree-scenario possible the Sugar Ad-hoc networks have been added. The Feature [3] will add three default Ad-hoc networks, for channel 1, 6 and 11. They will be represented with designated icons in the neighborhood view. If Sugar sees no known network (the learner has not been connected to an currently available Access Point before) when it starts, it does autoconnect to an Ad-hoc network. First we try if there is an Ad-hoc network that is used by other learners in the area, if not we default to channel 1. Another great Feature will be available in 0.89.4. This Feature [4] removes the need for the Presence Service, meaning that activities and the Shell need to interact directly with non-Sugar-specific services such as Telepathy. As it touches three modules reviewing took a few more days. Since it is the mayor 0.90 Feature we gave it a deadline exception. The code has been pushed as I am writing these lines... Full release notes can be found at [5]. Thanks everyone for your great contributions! In behalf of the sugar community, Your Release Team [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Roadmap#Schedule [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Enhanced_color_selector [3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Sugar_Adhoc_Networks [4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Remove_Presence_Service [5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/0.89.3_Notes ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.89.4 Tarballs Due
Dear Sucrose Maintainers, we will have our next unstable release in the 0.90 development cycle the 25th of August [1]. Please provide the Sucrose 0.89.3 tarballs by Monday night (23th of August) and announce them as explained at [2]. Please have in mind that Monday 23th of August is UI Freeze [3]! Thanks, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Roadmap#Schedule [2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#Module_release [3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#UI_Freeze ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.1.2382
On 20.08.2010, at 18:41, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/20/2010 12:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: This is another alpha release for Etoys 4.1. There were some Sugar bugs that needed immediate fixing. == Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2382.tar.gz Just in case someone is bumping into that, the link should be (if i am not completely wrong): http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.1.2382.tar.gz Regards, Simon Err, yes. Thank you :) - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Feature Freeze exception request: Journal Sort
Hi all, Implement sorting in the Journal UI. Also adds support for the two new properties (filesize and ctime). Feature page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Sort Implementations: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-datastore/repos/journal_sort http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/repos/journal_sort -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
