Re: [Sugar-devel] #2389 resolution set to notsugar, fixed upstream
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 18:25, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, is that the first sign [1] that Killing the PS was the right choice? :) Could be, let's see :) Regards, Tomeu Regards, Simon [1] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2389#comment:2 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] favorite_activities bug or feature?
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 19:13, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: When I update a activity present in the favorite_activities file, in the file appears a new line with the activity and the new version number. I have tested it in 0.84 and sugar-jhbuild. I think it is a bug, but there any reason for this? Part of the activity mechanisms can deal with several versions of an activity installed at the same time. There was the intention to support that in the UI as well, but a blocker was found with the activity version not being transmitted across the network when advertising an activity or inviting. Regards, Tomeu Thanks Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Issue No. 2324. Implementing Copy/Paste using Clipboard in Abacus.
Hi, I am working on issue #2324, implementing Copy/Paste in Abacus Activity. I had some doubts on the functionality of copy and paste. According to what i have done, 1. The copy button when clicked copies any expression/number present in the output(bar) to the clipboard. 2. The paste button can however only paste single numbers and not expressions, on the output(bar). Would this functionality be sufficient? Regards Shan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue No. 2324. Implementing Copy/Paste using Clipboard in Abacus.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Shanjit Singh Jajmann shan...@dev.seeta.in wrote: Hi, I am working on issue #2324, implementing Copy/Paste in Abacus Activity. I had some doubts on the functionality of copy and paste. According to what i have done, 1. The copy button when clicked copies any expression/number present in the output(bar) to the clipboard. You'll want to check to make sure the copied text will convert to a number. 2. The paste button can however only paste single numbers and not expressions, on the output(bar). I think you should only copy the result, not the entire expression. This can be obtained by passing the sum_only=True flag to the method that reads the value of the abacus. Would this functionality be sufficient? Sounds good. -walter Regards Shan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording
On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Art Hunkins wrote: My new activity, FileMix, encourages children to create their own nature recordings to mix and process in FileMix (i.e., create soundscapes). Files can be mono or stereo, any sample rate and duration, and most file formats. The files also need to be renamed and placed in the FileMix.activity folder. The Record activity is a natural for recording audio, and I had thought it would be the appropriate vehicle. I've recently discovered that it only produces Ogg Speex files, not the higher-quality Ogg Vorbis variety. Unfortunately, Csound and libsndfile handle only Ogg Vorbis - not Speex. (It would be very nice if Record *could* output Ogg Vorbis.) So I turned to eToys. I find it somewhat iffy to record in eToys (on an XO-1.5); sometimes it works, sometimes not. The main obstacle I face is that recordings seem embedded in projects, and I don't find where/how to access the recording by itself. (The sound editor, and variety of output resolutions [including WAV and VORBIS] are excellent.) The documentation (floss) isn't helpful here either. I am able to record and save, but to where I don't know -not, it seems, to the Sound Library. The Library location is not given. It seems you can take something out of it, but not put something in? (Confusing.) I very much need a simpler procedure to save and transfer/relocate individual recordings. I'm currently working on a radio play production with Berlin based children's radio Radijojo[1]. We are planning to produce as much of the play as possible on the XO and currently are facing exactly the same problem. Your new activity sounds pretty interesting. We considered recording with Etoys (if we find a way to access the audio files) and then do the mixing with Audacity. A tool that is easier to use than Audacity would be very much appreciated though. Tom Staubitz So, my question: can someone please explain how to get eToys sound files isolated and copied to other folders, and/or which other activities might meet my needs at least as well as (or better than) eToys and Record? Art Hunkins ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel [1] http://www.radijojo.de/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording
On 09/30/2010 06:33 PM, Art Hunkins wrote: The files also need to be renamed and placed in the FileMix.activity folder. Don't do this. Among other reasons, you shouldn't assume that the activity has write permissions to its .activity/ folder. There are a hundred other reasons why this is considered bad form. The Record activity is a natural for recording audio, and I had thought it would be the appropriate vehicle. I've recently discovered that it only produces Ogg Speex files, not the higher-quality Ogg Vorbis variety. Unfortunately, Csound and libsndfile handle only Ogg Vorbis - not Speex. (It would be very nice if Record *could* output Ogg Vorbis.) Making Record output Vorbis is a trivial one-line change. Presumably you would be best served by copying that portion of the Record code into FileMix, with the alteration to record in Vorbis. So, my question: can someone please explain how to get eToys sound files isolated and copied to other folders, and/or which other activities might meet my needs at least as well as (or better than) eToys and Record? Surely the activity that will suit your needs best is your own. I recommend you add the sound recording functionality there. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording
On 01.10.2010, at 00:33, Art Hunkins wrote: My new activity, FileMix, encourages children to create their own nature recordings to mix and process in FileMix (i.e., create soundscapes). Files can be mono or stereo, any sample rate and duration, and most file formats. The files also need to be renamed and placed in the FileMix.activity folder. The Record activity is a natural for recording audio, and I had thought it would be the appropriate vehicle. I've recently discovered that it only produces Ogg Speex files, not the higher-quality Ogg Vorbis variety. Unfortunately, Csound and libsndfile handle only Ogg Vorbis - not Speex. (It would be very nice if Record *could* output Ogg Vorbis.) So I turned to eToys. I find it somewhat iffy to record in eToys (on an XO-1.5); sometimes it works, sometimes not. The main obstacle I face is that recordings seem embedded in projects, and I don't find where/how to access the recording by itself. (The sound editor, and variety of output resolutions [including WAV and VORBIS] are excellent.) The documentation (floss) isn't helpful here either. I am able to record and save, but to where I don't know -not, it seems, to the Sound Library. The Library location is not given. It seems you can take something out of it, but not put something in? (Confusing.) I very much need a simpler procedure to save and transfer/relocate individual recordings. So, my question: can someone please explain how to get eToys sound files isolated and copied to other folders, and/or which other activities might meet my needs at least as well as (or better than) eToys and Record? Well, Etoys was not designed as editor for other formats. Sounds you record are just objects in memory. An Etoys project file is basically a memory dump of the objects used in one project. We have a variety of import options but few for file export. Squeak/Etoys is a thoroughly object-oriented system - files are so quaint ;) I don't think there is a user interface for exporting sounds as files. The code is there, e.g. OggDriver example1 saves a Vorbis file and OggDriver example4 saves as Speex. But besides not being exposed in the UI, these only save to the file system, not to the Journal. That capability could be added of course. Patches welcome :) Short of that, you could suggest the feature in our tracker at http://tracker.squeakland.org/ - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording
On 30 September 2010 23:33, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: The Record activity is a natural for recording audio, and I had thought it would be the appropriate vehicle. I've recently discovered that it only produces Ogg Speex files, not the higher-quality Ogg Vorbis variety. Please double check this. I'm pretty certain that it saves as vorbis and just confirmed that with a glance at the code. Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 24, Issue 2
Art, Really the best way to share data between Activities is to create and read Journal entries. The Make Your Own Sugar Activities! FLOSS Manual explains how to do this. Activities have only a few directories they can write to, which are not shareable with other Activities. Sugar does this by design to prevent a malicious Activity from trashing a kid's computer. Using Journal entries isn't that difficult. James Simmons Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:56:33 +0200 From: tom.staub...@fhtw-berlin.de tom.staub...@fhtw-berlin.de Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Advice request: XO sound recording To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: 2380056b-83ce-491d-a4c0-38ae3a40b...@fhtw-berlin.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Art Hunkins wrote: My new activity, FileMix, encourages children to create their own nature recordings to mix and process in FileMix (i.e., create soundscapes). Files can be mono or stereo, any sample rate and duration, and most file formats. The files also need to be renamed and placed in the FileMix.activity folder. The Record activity is a natural for recording audio, and I had thought it would be the appropriate vehicle. I've recently discovered that it only produces Ogg Speex files, not the higher-quality Ogg Vorbis variety. Unfortunately, Csound and libsndfile handle only Ogg Vorbis - not Speex. (It would be very nice if Record *could* output Ogg Vorbis.) So I turned to eToys. I find it somewhat iffy to record in eToys (on an XO-1.5); sometimes it works, sometimes not. The main obstacle I face is that recordings seem embedded in projects, and I don't find where/how to access the recording by itself. (The sound editor, and variety of output resolutions [including WAV and VORBIS] are excellent.) The documentation (floss) isn't helpful here either. I am able to record and save, but to where I don't know -not, it seems, to the Sound Library. The Library location is not given. It seems you can take something out of it, but not put something in? (Confusing.) I very much need a simpler procedure to save and transfer/relocate individual recordings. I'm currently working on a radio play production with Berlin based children's radio Radijojo[1]. We are planning to produce as much of the play as possible on the XO and currently are facing exactly the same problem. Your new activity sounds pretty interesting. We considered recording with Etoys (if we find a way to access the audio files) and then do the mixing with Audacity. A tool that is easier to use than Audacity would be very much appreciated though. Tom Staubitz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: making patches and sending email using git-email
Team Important steps to be completed before making and sending patches- 1. Do remember to keep the system updated as there are some packages which might not be installed and later on will create problems. 2. To do the git email configuration for your system refer to http://paste.ubuntu.com/488777/ After setting up git-email do send a test mail to any of the members to check for its working. 3. Before making a patch always use command git diff. It would show you the changes which you have made. This would give you a idea on whether there are any undesired changes present since the same thing is reflected in the patch. 4. Once you send the patch at sugar-devel be quick in responding to the suggestions and changes suggested by developers. Remember to add the correct patch version to the email while sending through git send-email. For eg git send-email --annotate --to ishanseeta.in 0001-Specified-bundle-id-for-read-activity-Ticket-2170.patch can be run to edit the message being sent to sugar-devel For the correct way to do add patch version refer to http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-September/026978.html. Regards ishan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Pointers required for SL#1742 (after adding a friend the palette doesn't change) ,
What I figured out for this bug is that the bug could be solved only if the shell service has a D-Bus API for buddies. Untill then even the present scenario of one time update during system restart has also been applied through a hack place in sync_friends () in the jarabe.model.friends.pymodule this bug will get wrapped itself when the said api for shell service will get designed then even this sync_friends function would be removed. But I would need some pointers on how to create this dbus api for the present scenario and how will that work through the process to solve this defect. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Replacing Illegal character ':' in username (SL #2152)
Hi, Thanks Sascha for the patch. Bernie, I seem to be not getting the key pointers. I think you are suggesting me to setup a School Server on my machine. Martin, I am following this site for XS installation: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software Am I on correct path? Also, after setting the server, how shall I proceed. I have figured out the following steps so far: - Download and install XS software from here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software - Monitor the traffic. (Not sure about idmgr, couldn't find the package for Ubuntu too) - ^^ For setting up XS I think I will have to setup a server Apache. Dipankar On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Sep 30 17:42:17 +0200 2010: In the absense of a real test schoolserver, [...] It would be nice if somebody could prepare a VM image containing an XS installation. Note that the editable field for the collaboration server in the CP does not affect schoolserver registration on the XO. This is another bug in my opinion, feel free to submit a separate path providing a unified behavior for the XO and normal laptop cases. For reference: That's #1976 [1]. Tim already provided a patch several months ago, but it needs some minor polishing. [2] Sascha [1] https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1976 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-July/thread.html#25265 -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Replacing Illegal character ':' in username (SL #2152)
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Dipankar Patro dipan...@seeta.in wrote: I am following this site for XS installation: I thought you already had an XS. You have the right URLs but installing an XS for this will be too much work. As Bernie suggested, just install idmgr on a fedora box. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ticket #2183 : To add more nouns to the speak activity
Joshua I an working on ticket http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2183. In this we have to add new nouns to speak activity but i am confused as to which file should i add it since there are many files present in speak activity with .aiml extension. On researching i found that a pyaiml library and some of aiml dbs were downloaded from the internet for the activity. Can you tell me the source of these files and if there is any better alternative to the already existing library. Please provide some pointers on the above issue. regards ishan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Replacing Illegal character ':' in username (SL #2152)
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 18:48 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Sep 30 17:42:17 +0200 2010: In the absense of a real test schoolserver, [...] It would be nice if somebody could prepare a VM image containing an XS installation. We already have one: schoolserver.sugarlabs.org. Unfortunately, the schoolserver 0.6 is an old F-9. We also have jabber-testing.sugarlabs.org which was intended to be our new collaboration server, but nobody setup jabber on it yet. Dave, would you have time to work on it? For reference: That's #1976 [1]. Tim already provided a patch several months ago, but it needs some minor polishing. [2] Yes, in particular: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-July/025739.html Dipankar, could you work on this when you're done with sl#2152? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
