Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Contact sheet for all sugar-artwork icons

2011-03-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Gary C Martin
garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi Folks,

 For some time I've been meaning to create a contact sheet for all
 sugar-artwork svg icons to help as a quick reference, and for general icon
 polishing/standardisation. Finally – having been fiddling with svg xml for
 my SOM generation code – I got around to the task:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar-artwork.png

 Christian: Given the Design Meeting conversation on Sunday, you might be
 interested in 5 along, 7 down (view-source AKA the cog), and 2 along, 8 down
 (preferences-system AKA the spanner).

 Gonzalo: You might like to check out 12 along, 9 down (camera-external) for
 re: your Record toolbar work as I think it gives a stronger, more sugar
 standard version of a camera icon than currently shown in your mockups
 (would need to update your video and microphone icon styles to match):

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Record/NewToolbar


Thanks!
Do you have more comments about the mockups?
A comment and a question about the icons: The loupe (6 along, 5 down) looks
bigger than the other icons (in WIkibrowse is very visible). The question:
The arrows up and down with the media icon inside, are supposed to be used
to transfer media or to save/load from journal? I think are better to
transfer, but i saw these used to save to/load from the journal
Regards,

Gonzalo



 Regards,
 --Gary
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[Sugar-devel] FYI Working gnome3-shell with nightly compose. desktop-i386-20110318.01.iso

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

FYI: this boots into gnome3shell as CD
sugar-desktop can be installed after install to HD or USB (both work). 
VirtualBox4.0.4 OSX defaults to fallback gnome2.xxx

http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/desktop-i386-20110318.01.iso
also installs to 8 GB USB
DO NOT UPDATE rsyslogd 5.7.9-1 fc15 doing so will make the system not login
see 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora#Make_Bootable_f15_gnome3_USB  
look at notes

115 updates as of 5AM PDT -1(rsyslogd 5.7.9-1 fc15)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Contact sheet for all sugar-artwork icons

2011-03-21 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Gonzalo,

On 21 Mar 2011, at 10:20, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Gary C Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 For some time I've been meaning to create a contact sheet for all 
 sugar-artwork svg icons to help as a quick reference, and for general icon 
 polishing/standardisation. Finally – having been fiddling with svg xml for my 
 SOM generation code – I got around to the task:
 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar-artwork.png
 
 Christian: Given the Design Meeting conversation on Sunday, you might be 
 interested in 5 along, 7 down (view-source AKA the cog), and 2 along, 8 down 
 (preferences-system AKA the spanner).
 
 Gonzalo: You might like to check out 12 along, 9 down (camera-external) for 
 re: your Record toolbar work as I think it gives a stronger, more sugar 
 standard version of a camera icon than currently shown in your mockups (would 
 need to update your video and microphone icon styles to match):
 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Record/NewToolbar
 
 Thanks!
 Do you have more comments about the mockups?

Yes, I've added the topic to the design meeting agenda next week as Record is a 
very popular Activity. Hopefully this will also get you feedback from a 
slightly wider audience.

 A comment and a question about the icons: The loupe (6 along, 5 down) looks 
 bigger than the other icons (in WIkibrowse is very visible).

I'm pretty sure this icon was never intended in the usual toolbar button 
placement, it is the system-search visual that appears inside search input 
fields so needs to be as large and clear as possible given its intended 
placement size. I'd flag WIkibrowse's use of it in the toolbar as incorrect. 
It's been a while since I downloaded the Wikipedia activity (due to it's very 
large size), could you post a screen shot or two (or upload them to the 
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4401 page so there are some 
thumbnails for users to see)?

 The question: The arrows up and down with the media icon inside, are supposed 
 to be used to transfer media or to save/load from journal? I think are better 
 to transfer, but i saw these used to save to/load from the journal

You mean the ones starting at 11 along, 5 down? These are used for the 'send to 
friend --' Journal feature for  transferring Journal objects between friends:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Send-to.png

The icons appear in the top frame and provide a palette that provides the user 
control and transfer information:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Activitiestray_transfer_to_icon.png

Can you remember where you saw them being used to save to/load from the 
Journal? 

Regards,
--Gary

 Regards,
 
 Gonzalo
  
 Regards,
 --Gary
 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Contact sheet for all sugar-artwork icons

2011-03-21 Thread Walter Bender
I have some skew, but I made a first pass at using image map to let
you see the icon name by placing the cursor over it...

See http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter#Sugar_icons

-walter

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Gary Martin
garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Gonzalo,

 On 21 Mar 2011, at 10:20, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Gary C Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 For some time I've been meaning to create a contact sheet for all 
 sugar-artwork svg icons to help as a quick reference, and for general icon 
 polishing/standardisation. Finally – having been fiddling with svg xml for 
 my SOM generation code – I got around to the task:

        http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar-artwork.png

 Christian: Given the Design Meeting conversation on Sunday, you might be 
 interested in 5 along, 7 down (view-source AKA the cog), and 2 along, 8 down 
 (preferences-system AKA the spanner).

 Gonzalo: You might like to check out 12 along, 9 down (camera-external) for 
 re: your Record toolbar work as I think it gives a stronger, more sugar 
 standard version of a camera icon than currently shown in your mockups 
 (would need to update your video and microphone icon styles to match):

        http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Record/NewToolbar

 Thanks!
 Do you have more comments about the mockups?

 Yes, I've added the topic to the design meeting agenda next week as Record is 
 a very popular Activity. Hopefully this will also get you feedback from a 
 slightly wider audience.

 A comment and a question about the icons: The loupe (6 along, 5 down) looks 
 bigger than the other icons (in WIkibrowse is very visible).

 I'm pretty sure this icon was never intended in the usual toolbar button 
 placement, it is the system-search visual that appears inside search input 
 fields so needs to be as large and clear as possible given its intended 
 placement size. I'd flag WIkibrowse's use of it in the toolbar as incorrect. 
 It's been a while since I downloaded the Wikipedia activity (due to it's very 
 large size), could you post a screen shot or two (or upload them to the 
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4401 page so there are some 
 thumbnails for users to see)?

 The question: The arrows up and down with the media icon inside, are 
 supposed to be used to transfer media or to save/load from journal? I think 
 are better to transfer, but i saw these used to save to/load from the journal

 You mean the ones starting at 11 along, 5 down? These are used for the 'send 
 to friend --' Journal feature for  transferring Journal objects between 
 friends:

        http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Send-to.png

 The icons appear in the top frame and provide a palette that provides the 
 user control and transfer information:

        http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Activitiestray_transfer_to_icon.png

 Can you remember where you saw them being used to save to/load from the 
 Journal?

 Regards,
 --Gary

 Regards,

 Gonzalo

 Regards,
 --Gary


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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Words-6

2011-03-21 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4315

Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.92

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27291/words-6.xo

Release notes:
* New toolbars, i18n, minor cosmetic changes.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Contact sheet for all sugar-artwork icons

2011-03-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi Gonzalo,

 On 21 Mar 2011, at 10:20, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

  On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Gary C Martin 
 garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hi Folks,
 
  For some time I've been meaning to create a contact sheet for all
 sugar-artwork svg icons to help as a quick reference, and for general icon
 polishing/standardisation. Finally – having been fiddling with svg xml for
 my SOM generation code – I got around to the task:
 
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar-artwork.png
 
  Christian: Given the Design Meeting conversation on Sunday, you might be
 interested in 5 along, 7 down (view-source AKA the cog), and 2 along, 8 down
 (preferences-system AKA the spanner).
 
  Gonzalo: You might like to check out 12 along, 9 down (camera-external)
 for re: your Record toolbar work as I think it gives a stronger, more sugar
 standard version of a camera icon than currently shown in your mockups
 (would need to update your video and microphone icon styles to match):
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Record/NewToolbar
 
  Thanks!
  Do you have more comments about the mockups?

 Yes, I've added the topic to the design meeting agenda next week as Record
 is a very popular Activity. Hopefully this will also get you feedback from a
 slightly wider audience.


Ok.



  A comment and a question about the icons: The loupe (6 along, 5 down)
 looks bigger than the other icons (in WIkibrowse is very visible).

 I'm pretty sure this icon was never intended in the usual toolbar button
 placement, it is the system-search visual that appears inside search input
 fields so needs to be as large and clear as possible given its intended
 placement size. I'd flag WIkibrowse's use of it in the toolbar as incorrect.
 It's been a while since I downloaded the Wikipedia activity (due to it's
 very large size), could you post a screen shot or two (or upload them to the
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4401 page so there are
 some thumbnails for users to see)?


I have attached a image with the toolbar of wikipedia. May be I must use
another icon?


  The question: The arrows up and down with the media icon inside, are
 supposed to be used to transfer media or to save/load from journal? I think
 are better to transfer, but i saw these used to save to/load from the
 journal

 You mean the ones starting at 11 along, 5 down? These are used for the
 'send to friend --' Journal feature for  transferring Journal objects
 between friends:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Send-to.png

 The icons appear in the top frame and provide a palette that provides the
 user control and transfer information:


 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Activitiestray_transfer_to_icon.png

 Can you remember where you saw them being used to save to/load from the
 Journal?


Yes, in TurtleArt.

Regards,

Gonzalo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Global create-new/modify icon

2011-03-21 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Simon,

On 16 Mar 2011, at 21:05, Simon Schampijer wrote:

 On 03/14/2011 11:28 AM, Gary Martin wrote:
 Hi Simon,
 
 On 10 Mar 2011, at 17:16, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 
 One of the major functionality in activities is creating and/or modifying, 
 for example creating a new game in Memorize a new abacus in the Abacus 
 activity and so on.
 
 I am wondering what would be a good icon to use for that. I have seen the 
 use of a scissor (like editing an activity), or the gear like we use in 
 'view source'.
 
 Any other ideas? And then it would be great if we could set on one and be 
 consistent in activities and use the same icon in all of them.
 
 Thanks for raising this, I've added this topic to next weeks Design Team 
 meeting, I'll try and get a few mockups together before then:
 
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings
 
 Great - thanks! /me loves the progress we have in design meetings over the 
 last weeks - all thumbs up!

For every one item we get through, the agenda seems to quietly grow by two or 
three new ones ;-)

 Some misc. thoughts regarding using the existing scissor/edit tool and 
 secondary palette.
 
 Pros:
 
  * existing Activity edit secondary toolbars usually have only copy, paste, 
 sometimes also undo  redo (so there is usually plenty of UI space)
  * no need to add yet another primary toolbar widget (less complex primary 
 UI and/or space for other tools)
  * Sugar design model, editing is what you do during an activity to change 
 it, 'creating new' activities should be done before an Activity begins (e.g. 
 home --  start new, and/or proposed Journal duplicate feature). BTW, Think 
 it is OK for an Activity to support clearing/erasing/reseting state (such as 
 Paint, Memorize), though ideally with reliable undo or versioning support to 
 help prevent accidental data loss.
 
 All valid points.
 
 Cons:
 
  * overloading an existing UI category (traditional OS users have certain 
 expectations for an edit menu)?
  * will folks overlook the edit sub-palette and miss the extra modification 
 features?
 
 I fear mostly that - that people will not find that option for several 
 reasons :/ But you are right in that using another icon has issues space 
 wise. Let's see maybe there are other options we have not thought about 
 yet...:)

As consensus seems to be for not overloading the scissors/edit icon, I've added 
an extra Memorize mockup using the cog/gear icon as a stand in container for 
the create/modify features/view:

  
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Garycmartin#Example_using_cog_icon_for_game_customisation_features

Not sure if you caught Sunday's meeting log, but we don't have a single choice 
for this visual yet. The issue with the cog/gear is that we already use it for 
view source (and hopefully edit source at some point). As we seem to like the 
cog/gear in this role we might want to find something better for view-source, 
or perhaps use the cog/gear as a badge on something else.

BTW: I'm still a little concerned with the full canvas view change  secondary 
toolbar interaction (e.g. hovering over icon will switch canvas to edit view, 
escaping edit mode may then be non-obvious as moving cursor to canvas area 
should no longer hide the secondary toolbar and edit view). The only way to 
avoid this interaction issue seems to be for the canvas view change to be 
triggered by a toggle button, or a radio button pair (play vs. modify).

Regards,
--Gary

 Regards,
   Simon

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[Sugar-devel] eduJAM! 2011: A Vibrant Summit With A Diverse Range Of Offerings

2011-03-21 Thread Organización eduJAM! 2011
We are very excited to update you with the latest information about the eduJAM!
2011 http://ceibaljam.org/?q=edujam2011_en summit. It is great to see that
the different pieces of the puzzle are coming together for what will
undoubtedly be a landmark for the international community of educational
free-software developers. Many of the main developers behind the Sugar
platform will be present (Walter Bender, Aleksey Lim (alsroot), and Bernie
Innocenti among others http://ceibaljam.org/node/1108). Additionally,
people working on different OLPC deployments will be there which guarantees
an excellent environment for moving the area of 1-to-1 computing in
education projects and related discussions forward.

More than anything we aim to make the summit an event to create and amplify
relationships in this community.

*Place*

The summit will take place at the Universidad del Trabajo del Uruguay (UTU)
and more specifically in its brand-new PAOF
buildinghttp://ceibaljam.org/node/1171 which
is located in Ciudad Viaja, the historic and commercial heart of Montevideo.
Apart from this allowing us to work within a comfortable and versatile
space, it also provides opportunities to enjoy this beautiful part of the
city during free hours.

*Program*

The summit will begin in the afternoon of *Thursday*, May 5 with an informal
reception aimed at allowing us to get to know each other as well as catch
up.

On *Friday*, May 6 the intensive work begins. This day will be organized in
two tracks. In the morning we will focus on a broad vision of the core
challenges encountered when designing a software platform aimed at learning
in school environments in general and in 1-to-1 scenarios in particular. We
can revise and revisit these experiences in light of the experiences made
within this context in the past few years. What has and hasn’t worked when
it comes to the software? How can we support the creation of effective
learning communities? How can we make the development processes in such a
diverse and distributed community more efficient? Which applications are we
still missing? These are some of the questions which will be on the table.

In the afternoon the summit will turn sweet as we fully dedicate it to
Sugar. On the one hand we will hold a “Sugar Camp” where will discuss the
current state of developments, local labs, the roadmap and how to optimize
the work in the community.

Simultaneously on Friday afternoon there will be workshops aimed at people
such as students and newcomers who want to learn how to develop for Sugar.

On *Saturday*, May 7 the morning will be focused on the various experiences
made in 1-to-1 projects. There will be talks by people working on different
deployments, explaining what they have done and discussing the necessities
and requirements when it comes to software platform. We consider this to be
an important input for planning future work.

This afternoon will be run in an “unconference” mode. This means that there
will be different talks, workshops, and discussion rounds which will be
planned and decided upon by the participants on the spot. We thereby hope to
learn more about the various ongoing projects, discuss roadmaps as well as
form small development and investigation groups.

*Conozco Uruguay Tour*

Independent of the summit, a variety of activities will take place in the
days leading up to it. These activities are aimed at people who want to
explore the experiences Uruguay is making with Plan Ceibal in more depth.
They will take place between Saturday, April 30 and Thursday, May 5.
Together with RAP Ceibal and OLPC we have developed the following itinerary:

   -

   Saturday, 30: Welcome dinner
   -

   Sunday, 1: Visit to Tala, Canelones, its rural school and Proyecto
   Aurora. Asado included;-)
   -

   Monday, 2 (morning): Visit to and activities at Escuela 173 in Las
   Piedras, Canelones
   -

   Monday, 2 (afternoon): Meeting with members of Flor de Ceibo, a project
   by the Universidad de la República which supports Plan Ceibal
   -

   Tuesday, 3: Visit to and activities at Esciela 33 in La Paloma, Durazno
   -

   Wednesday, 4 (morning): Montevideo city tour
   -

   Wednesday, 4 (afternoon): Visit of Euskal Erría school and the RAP
   Montevideo Center as well as meeting with RAP Ceibal volunteers

This agenda is still subject of possible changes but the start (Saturday,
April 30) and end dates (Thursday, May 5) have been confirmed. We are also
working on possible changes to include a touristic activity such as the
visit of a Uruguayan winery.

More information is available at:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Conozco_Uruguay_Tour

*Sugar Code Sprint*

There are also plans for an activity aimed at Sugar developers to take place
after the meeting. The days between Sunday, May 8 and Wednesday, May 11 will
be focused on intensive Sugar programming sessions in collaboration with
developers from Sugar Labs, OLPC and hopefully also other deployments.

*A vibrant summit to unite and 

Re: [Sugar-devel] eduJAM! 2011: A Vibrant Summit With A Diverse Range Of Offerings

2011-03-21 Thread David Farning
 -Original Message-
 From: sugar-devel-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:sugar-devel-
 boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Organización eduJAM! 2011
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:05 PM
 To: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Subject: [Sugar-devel] eduJAM! 2011: A Vibrant Summit With A Diverse Range Of
 Offerings
 
 We are very excited to update you with the latest information about
 the�eduJAM! 2011 http://ceibaljam.org/?q=edujam2011_en �summit. It is
 great to see that the different pieces of the puzzle are coming together for 
 what
 will undoubtedly be a landmark for the international community of educational
 free-software developers. Many of the main developers behind the Sugar
 platform will be present (Walter Bender, Aleksey Lim (alsroot), and Bernie
 Innocenti among�others http://ceibaljam.org/node/1108 ). Additionally,
 people working on different OLPC deployments will be there which guarantees
 an excellent environment for moving the area of 1-to-1 computing in education
 projects and related discussions forward.
 
 More than anything we aim to make the summit an event to create and amplify
 relationships in this community.
 
 Place
 
 The summit will take place at the Universidad del Trabajo del Uruguay (UTU) 
 and
 more specifically in its brand-new�PAOF building
 http://ceibaljam.org/node/1171 �which is located in Ciudad Viaja, the 
 historic
 and commercial heart of Montevideo. Apart from this allowing us to work within
 a comfortable and versatile space, it also provides opportunities to enjoy 
 this
 beautiful part of the city during free hours.
 
 Program
 
 The summit will begin in the afternoon of�Thursday, May 5 with an informal
 reception aimed at allowing us to get to know each other as well as catch up.
 
 On�Friday, May 6 the intensive work begins. This day will be organized in two
 tracks. In the morning we will focus on a broad vision of the core challenges
 encountered when designing a software platform aimed at learning in school
 environments in general and in 1-to-1 scenarios in particular. We can revise 
 and
 revisit these experiences in light of the experiences made within this 
 context in
 the past few years. What has and hasn�t worked when it comes to the
 software? How can we support the creation of effective learning communities?
 How can we make the development processes in such a diverse and distributed
 community more efficient? Which applications are we still missing? These are
 some of the questions which will be on the table.
 
 In the afternoon the summit will turn sweet as we fully dedicate it to Sugar. 
 On
 the one hand we will hold a �Sugar Camp� where will discuss the current state
 of developments, local labs, the roadmap and how to optimize the work in the
 community.
 
 Simultaneously on Friday afternoon there will be workshops aimed at people
 such as students and newcomers who want to learn how to develop for Sugar.
 
 On�Saturday, May 7 the morning will be focused on the various experiences
 made in 1-to-1 projects. There will be talks by people working on different
 deployments, explaining what they have done and discussing the necessities and
 requirements when it comes to software platform. We consider this to be an
 important input for planning future work.

I would like to make a personal invitation to deployment developers and 
technical support staff to participate in the events Saturday, Sunday and (if 
possible) into the next week. On Saturday, Activity Central will create a 
'Critical Tasks' list. As we identify critical tasks which are shared across 
multiply deployments, we will add them to the Dextrose TODO list for our 
upcoming release and inclusion in the next OLPC OS release.

 This afternoon will be run in an �unconference� mode. This means that there
 will be different talks, workshops, and discussion rounds which will be 
 planned
 and decided upon by the participants on the spot. We thereby hope to learn
 more about the various ongoing projects, discuss roadmaps as well as form
 small development and investigation groups.

Starting Saturday afternoon Activity Central developers will run a 'Critical 
Tasks' workshop to help deployments identify and work on their important bugs 
and feature requests. Through the follow week AC developers will be available 
to:
1. Help you solve those critical tasks.
2. Help you push those solutions upstream to OLPC and Sugar Labs.
3. Help you identify and coordinate with other deployments and organizations 
that are facing similar issues.

Look forward to see you at eduJAM.
david

 
 Conozco Uruguay Tour
 
 Independent of the summit, a variety of activities will take place in the days
 leading up to it. These activities are aimed at people who want to explore the
 experiences Uruguay is making with Plan Ceibal in more depth. They will take
 place between Saturday, April 30 and Thursday, May 5. Together with RAP Ceibal
 and OLPC we have developed the 

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Contact sheet for all sugar-artwork icons

2011-03-21 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
This is great Gary, thanks so much! Most of the icons are already very good
and quite consistent. And there are a few we could definitely improve.

I see we already have both a wrench and a cog. But the more I think about
it, it seems that preferences could be a form with checkboxes, or even a
pencil making a checkmark. Seems that the message we want to communicate is
having a choice, more than the inner workings implied by the cog/gear.
What do you think?


Christian


On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:



 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Gary C Martin 
 garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 For some time I've been meaning to create a contact sheet for all
 sugar-artwork svg icons to help as a quick reference, and for general icon
 polishing/standardisation. Finally – having been fiddling with svg xml for
 my SOM generation code – I got around to the task:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar-artwork.png

 Christian: Given the Design Meeting conversation on Sunday, you might be
 interested in 5 along, 7 down (view-source AKA the cog), and 2 along, 8 down
 (preferences-system AKA the spanner).

 Gonzalo: You might like to check out 12 along, 9 down (camera-external)
 for re: your Record toolbar work as I think it gives a stronger, more sugar
 standard version of a camera icon than currently shown in your mockups
 (would need to update your video and microphone icon styles to match):

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Record/NewToolbar


 Thanks!
 Do you have more comments about the mockups?
 A comment and a question about the icons: The loupe (6 along, 5 down) looks
 bigger than the other icons (in WIkibrowse is very visible). The question:
 The arrows up and down with the media icon inside, are supposed to be used
 to transfer media or to save/load from journal? I think are better to
 transfer, but i saw these used to save to/load from the journal
 Regards,

 Gonzalo



 Regards,
 --Gary





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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Contact sheet for all sugar-artwork icons

2011-03-21 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Walter,

On 21 Mar 2011, at 15:50, Walter Bender wrote:

 I have some skew, but I made a first pass at using image map to let
 you see the icon name by placing the cursor over it...

Oooh, sorry, I should have said the svg I'm playing with has hover over names 
(and I was planning on adding markers for device, emblems, etc), just that I've 
not uploaded the svg yet (it links to the files in git.sl.org so wanted a quick 
standalone png first as a static point in time). I'm also re-looking at the 
emblem icons as I have a git merge request still outstanding from last year 
(makes them high contrast instead of the current grey scale), but just looking 
again incase there's more tweaks – part of the reason for making this contact 
sheet. There was one new badge icon (emblem-buddy) so I didn't post the svg yet 
as it's not in mainline.

Regards,
--Gary

 See http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter#Sugar_icons
 
 -walter
 
 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Gary Martin
 garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Gonzalo,
 
 On 21 Mar 2011, at 10:20, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 
 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Gary C Martin 
 garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 For some time I've been meaning to create a contact sheet for all 
 sugar-artwork svg icons to help as a quick reference, and for general icon 
 polishing/standardisation. Finally – having been fiddling with svg xml for 
 my SOM generation code – I got around to the task:
 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar-artwork.png
 
 Christian: Given the Design Meeting conversation on Sunday, you might be 
 interested in 5 along, 7 down (view-source AKA the cog), and 2 along, 8 
 down (preferences-system AKA the spanner).
 
 Gonzalo: You might like to check out 12 along, 9 down (camera-external) for 
 re: your Record toolbar work as I think it gives a stronger, more sugar 
 standard version of a camera icon than currently shown in your mockups 
 (would need to update your video and microphone icon styles to match):
 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Record/NewToolbar
 
 Thanks!
 Do you have more comments about the mockups?
 
 Yes, I've added the topic to the design meeting agenda next week as Record 
 is a very popular Activity. Hopefully this will also get you feedback from a 
 slightly wider audience.
 
 A comment and a question about the icons: The loupe (6 along, 5 down) looks 
 bigger than the other icons (in WIkibrowse is very visible).
 
 I'm pretty sure this icon was never intended in the usual toolbar button 
 placement, it is the system-search visual that appears inside search input 
 fields so needs to be as large and clear as possible given its intended 
 placement size. I'd flag WIkibrowse's use of it in the toolbar as incorrect. 
 It's been a while since I downloaded the Wikipedia activity (due to it's 
 very large size), could you post a screen shot or two (or upload them to the 
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4401 page so there are 
 some thumbnails for users to see)?
 
 The question: The arrows up and down with the media icon inside, are 
 supposed to be used to transfer media or to save/load from journal? I think 
 are better to transfer, but i saw these used to save to/load from the 
 journal
 
 You mean the ones starting at 11 along, 5 down? These are used for the 'send 
 to friend --' Journal feature for  transferring Journal objects between 
 friends:
 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Send-to.png
 
 The icons appear in the top frame and provide a palette that provides the 
 user control and transfer information:
 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Activitiestray_transfer_to_icon.png
 
 Can you remember where you saw them being used to save to/load from the 
 Journal?
 
 Regards,
 --Gary
 
 Regards,
 
 Gonzalo
 
 Regards,
 --Gary
 
 
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