[Sugar-devel] Plans for SoaS v9
Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ Regards, Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View
Attached is a patch to review implementing the feature [1] Almost all the work was done by Agustin Zubiaga, in the context of Google Code in contest, with a few little improvements from Walter and me. This is a long requested feature. I think we can organize a contest to create a collection of useful images, because not all the images are really appropriate due to the contrast needed with the icons. A few examples, good and bad are in the feature page. A list of possible future improvements is in the feature page too. Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Background_image_on_home_view 0001-Add-a-section-in-the-control-panel-to-configure-the-.patch Description: Binary data ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
Hello: V9 will be based on fedora 19? I'm downloading the latest (which i think would be for fedora 18) I'll be testing both during the weekend. Something in particular that you would like for me to tes or just Activities (that sounded like it was easy and fast, but i know it is not :-) cheers 2013/3/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ Regards, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Rodolfo D. Arce S. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~rolf ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
Hi all, Im thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript. My idea is to package and enhance the work Ive done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. Ive got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus Im not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. Tell me. Best regards from France. Lionel. [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/d eveloping-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
+1 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. Tell me. Best regards from France. Lionel. [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rodolfo D. Arce S. r...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hello: V9 will be based on fedora 19? I'm downloading the latest (which i think would be for fedora 18) Yes, it will be based on Fedora 19. I'll be testing both during the weekend. Something in particular that you would like for me to tes or just Activities (that sounded like it was easy and fast, but i know it is not :-) For the development, Activities, the use case you would want to use SoaS in, pretty much everything. Peter cheers 2013/3/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ Regards, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Rodolfo D. Arce S. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~rolf ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Plans for SoaS v9
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. ** ** ** ** [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
May be you can coordinate with Daniel Narvaez? He was working on web activities too. Gonzalo On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. ** ** ** ** [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View
A one line change in the patch. This patch replace the previous. Gonzalo 0001-Add-a-section-in-the-control-panel-to-configure-the-.patch Description: Binary data ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Plans for SoaS v9
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. +1 for Raspberry-Pi :) Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Plans for SoaS v9
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. +1 for Raspberry-Pi :) It won't be for Raspberry Pi. The armv5tel was dropped for Fedora 19. It will be supportable but that's through a different effort that I've not got the time to be involved with. It will worth with around 20 odd ARM devices including a new soon to be announced device that will cost almost the same as a RPi and be a lot more powerful. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
On Fri, March 22, 2013 10:29 am, James Simmons wrote: Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. Would there be a way to integrate HTML 5 with existing Sugar activities? This would help greatly in our Replacing Textbooks program, so that we could integrate Sugar into a curriculum and all of its learning materials. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
I feel like there is a bit of confusion about both html activities and
sugar on android which, in my mind, are pretty interconnected. I'm happy to
write up a proposal if that helps moving towards a consensus and some kind
of plan. It would probably take me a few days though.
On Friday, 22 March 2013, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
May be you can coordinate with Daniel Narvaez?
He was working on web activities too.
Gonzalo
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Hi all,
** **
I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for
writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”.
My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically
to fully avoid the need to write any Python code.
I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring.
Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to
build something like a new sort of activity packaging.
So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if
someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal.
** **
Tell me.
** **
Best regards from France.
** **
Lionel.
** **
** **
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http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/
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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Swift Feet-1
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4655 Sugar Platform: 0.96 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28523/swift_feet-1.xo Release notes: Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
Edward, Since the Read Activity uses WebKit for reading EPUBs it seems likely that you could make an EPUB with JavaScript in it and make a sort of electronic pop-up book out of it. It might not be a strictly kosher EPUB, but Read probably wouldn't care. Maybe this could be something else to look at. You could make a packaging utility that takes an HTML file and any subdirectories beneath it and packages it as either a Sugar Activity or an EPUB. The utility could be written in Python and PyGTK so you could run it on any OS, and maybe it could run as a Sugar Activity as well. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin moku...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 10:29 am, James Simmons wrote: Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. Would there be a way to integrate HTML 5 with existing Sugar activities? This would help greatly in our Replacing Textbooks program, so that we could integrate Sugar into a curriculum and all of its learning materials. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
I feel like there is a bit of confusion about both html activities and sugar on android which, in my mind, are pretty interconnected. I'm happy to write up a proposal if that helps moving towards a consensus and some kind of plan. It would probably take me a few days though. HTML activities on Sugar could be a first step to Android porting but IMO, the two projects are not necessarily interconnected. I do like the James idea of a PhoneGap framework for Sugar. This is the way I think this GSoC proposal. At the end of the GSoC we can hope to have a binding of the framework for Sugar on Fedora, then in few months a binding of the framework for Sugar on Android. So, the framework will be a way to ensure a portability between Sugar/Fedora and Sugar/Android. Im going to write a first draft of the proposal. We could update it collectively. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View
Is the way the draw is done in gtk. The eventbox is not a Image where you load a image and then is draw when needed. Gonzalo On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Not a blocking question: but why wait until the draw callback of the eventbox before calling cairo? Can this not be done in the widget creation? Reviewed-by: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
On Fri, March 22, 2013 12:19 pm, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. Where can we find these plans? I see that the SoaS pages on the Sugar Labs Wiki are seriously out of date, referring to Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas Version 4 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA Release 1 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Running_Linux_Applications_Under_Sugar No version number given, but dated 2010 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Testing V5 for MacBook, Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads The Fedora Spins page doesn't say what version of SoaS it is offering at all. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Also, the Wiki fails to document release 0.98. It is out, according to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.98/Roadmap But it is not listed for any platform at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Do_you_use_GNU.2FLinux.3F Separately from that, the Sweets repository for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exist. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation Nor does the Ubuntu Sugar Team page. I would take that up with the Ubuntu Sugar Team if I could find it. ^_^ Sugar on Ubuntu is severely broken. Most activities fail to start. None of it should have been released in that state. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Packaging lists this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam which the Wiki says does not and has never existed. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would be delighted to help. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Who in particular? Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? If I had the information, I would be glad to add it to the Wiki on the appropriate pages. I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. +1 for Raspberry-Pi :) It won't be for Raspberry Pi. The armv5tel was dropped for Fedora 19. It will be supportable but that's through a different effort that I've not got the time to be involved with. It will worth with around 20 odd ARM devices including a new soon to be announced device that will cost almost the same as a RPi and be a lot more powerful. Can we get a Wiki page listing them, or an external link, and can we talk about testing SoaS on them _all_? If I could get funded to buy one of each and set up a modest test station with proper storage, power, and work area and all relevant ARM SoaS versions actually on sticks, I might volunteer to do that in between writing OERs and recruiting others to do so. Peter -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Journal Share-2
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4656 Sugar Platform: 0.96 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28524/journal_share-2.xo Release notes: This activity publish the favorites objects in the journal in a web page. Other users can download the objects or upload new ones. Is a experiment to try improve the sharing of journal objects in the classroom. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] JournalShare in ASLO
I have uploaded the activity JournalShare to ASLO http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4656 While the activity objective is improve sharing of journal objects in the classroom, I have used web technologies to allow a richer collaboration in the future, in line with the webservices proposal. Anyway, this is in a early stage, by example all the transference of data is done using a web server and a telepathy stream server, but I don't know if this solution will escalate to a full classroom, or if is the most efficient solution. Dsd proposed use MUC DBUS Tubes, like Record activity do, and is something to test the next week. Other idea is use the torrent protocol. Right now, I am running the server in a separated process, because running it in the same process (in another thread) blocked the UI. I will try to get it working in the same process, because running in other process is more error prone (at times the activity closes and the server not). Also the port used is fixed, then only one activity can run at the same time. Other problem pending to solve is when a user is downloading something the activity does not show feedback until the download ends. While the download code is copied from Browse, I don't know why is not working in the same way. The activity show the favorite items in the journal, like Portfolio does. In the future will allow selecting specific items from the journal to create a collection the shared items. Testing and ideas are welcome. Nothing is in stone. Have a nice weekend. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
I agree that it can be hard to find the present version of soas One reason v8 is not prominently displayed is that anaconda liveinst does not work for installation to a HD or USB See [4] for a work-around until this is fixed I am also listing the links for sweets-distribution-sugar 0.94 Tom Gilliard satellit here are some links: [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick scroll down wiki page to f18 where link is listed [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/%CA%BB%C5%8Chelo_%CA%BBai Sugar on a Stick v8 ʻŌhelo ʻai has never been updated on the left sidebar of the wiki [3]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Virtual_machines#Sugar_on_a_Stick_v8_.CA.BB.C5.8Chelo_.CA.BBai Importable VirtualBox appliance [4]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_18#Tutorial:_Make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs * Note*: The following are .img files are provided to workaround the bug that SoaS 8 fails to run a non-Live install to a hard disk or USB drive [5]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Subpages has listings for older versions [6] http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/ Archive of oldest soas.iso files http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2013#Finish_work_on_Ubuntu_Sugar sweets-distribution: sugar 0.94 On 03/22/2013 02:09 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 12:19 pm, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. Where can we find these plans? I see that the SoaS pages on the Sugar Labs Wiki are seriously out of date, referring to Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas Version 4 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA Release 1 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Running_Linux_Applications_Under_Sugar No version number given, but dated 2010 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Testing V5 for MacBook, Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads The Fedora Spins page doesn't say what version of SoaS it is offering at all. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Also, the Wiki fails to document release 0.98. It is out, according to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.98/Roadmap But it is not listed for any platform at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Do_you_use_GNU.2FLinux.3F Separately from that, the Sweets repository for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exist. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation Nor does the Ubuntu Sugar Team page. I would take that up with the Ubuntu Sugar Team if I could find it. ^_^ Sugar on Ubuntu is severely broken. Most activities fail to start. None of it should have been released in that state. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Packaging lists this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam which the Wiki says does not and has never existed. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would be delighted to help. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Who in particular? Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? If I had the information, I would be glad to add it to the Wiki on the appropriate pages. I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. +1 for Raspberry-Pi :) It won't be for Raspberry Pi. The armv5tel was dropped for Fedora 19. It will be supportable but that's through a different effort that I've not got the time to be involved with. It will worth with around 20 odd
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
On 03/22/2013 02:09 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 12:19 pm, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. Where can we find these plans? I see that the SoaS pages on the Sugar Labs Wiki are seriously out of date, referring to Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas Version 4 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA Release 1 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Running_Linux_Applications_Under_Sugar No version number given, but dated 2010 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Testing V5 for MacBook, Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads The Fedora Spins page doesn't say what version of SoaS it is offering at all. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Also, the Wiki fails to document release 0.98. It is out, according to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.98/Roadmap But it is not listed for any platform at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Do_you_use_GNU.2FLinux.3F Separately from that, the Sweets repository for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exist. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation Nor does the Ubuntu Sugar Team page. I would take that up with the Ubuntu Sugar Team if I could find it. ^_^ Sugar on Ubuntu is severely broken. Most activities fail to start. None of it should have been released in that state. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Packaging lists this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam which the Wiki says does not and has never existed. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would be delighted to help. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Who in particular? Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? If I had the information, I would be glad to add it to the Wiki on the appropriate pages. I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. +1 for Raspberry-Pi :) It won't be for Raspberry Pi. The armv5tel was dropped for Fedora 19. It will be supportable but that's through a different effort that I've not got the time to be involved with. It will worth with around 20 odd ARM devices including a new soon to be announced device that will cost almost the same as a RPi and be a lot more powerful. Can we get a Wiki page listing them, or an external link, and can we talk about testing SoaS on them _all_? If I could get funded to buy one of each and set up a modest test station with proper storage, power, and work area and all relevant ARM SoaS versions actually on sticks, I might volunteer to do that in between writing OERs and recruiting others to do so. Sorry I missed this on the previous post- Here are wiki pages for the raspberry pi: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi#Test_report_rpfr-f18-final.img http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#Raspberry_Pi_.2F_RPi ARM Overview: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#ARM Tom Gilliard satellit Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9
One more link to a wiki page I just updated: wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/previous_versions (Soas v1-Soas-v7 -download links) Tom Gilliard On 03/22/2013 03:26 PM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: I agree that it can be hard to find the present version of soas One reason v8 is not prominently displayed is that anaconda liveinst does not work for installation to a HD or USB See [4] for a work-around until this is fixed I am also listing the links for sweets-distribution-sugar 0.94 Tom Gilliard satellit here are some links: [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick scroll down wiki page to f18 where link is listed [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/%CA%BB%C5%8Chelo_%CA%BBai Sugar on a Stick v8 ?O-helo ?ai has never been updated on the left sidebar of the wiki [3]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Virtual_machines#Sugar_on_a_Stick_v8_.CA.BB.C5.8Chelo_.CA.BBai Importable VirtualBox appliance [4]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_18#Tutorial:_Make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs * Note*: The following are .img files are provided to workaround the bug that SoaS 8 fails to run a non-Live install to a hard disk or USB drive [5]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Subpages has listings for older versions [6] http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/ Archive of oldest soas.iso files http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2013#Finish_work_on_Ubuntu_Sugar sweets-distribution: sugar 0.94 On 03/22/2013 02:09 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 12:19 pm, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I have been over the last couple. The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish. Where can we find these plans? I see that the SoaS pages on the Sugar Labs Wiki are seriously out of date, referring to Version 7http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas Version 4http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA Release 1http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Running_Linux_Applications_Under_Sugar No version number given, but dated 2010 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Testing V5 for MacBook, Version 7http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads The Fedora Spins page doesn't say what version of SoaS it is offering at all. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Also, the Wiki fails to document release 0.98. It is out, according to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.98/Roadmap But it is not listed for any platform at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Do_you_use_GNU.2FLinux.3F Separately from that, the Sweets repository for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exist. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation Nor does the Ubuntu Sugar Team page. I would take that up with the Ubuntu Sugar Team if I could find it. ^_^ Sugar on Ubuntu is severely broken. Most activities fail to start. None of it should have been released in that state. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Packaging lists this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam which the Wiki says does not and has never existed. I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev cycle so I don't get the My Activity is broken post release or five minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing them out to the Fedora mirrors. I would be delighted to help. I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would mean either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so years. Who in particular? Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the process? If I had the information, I would be glad to add it to the Wiki on the appropriate pages. I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling me some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki. Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems to mostly work. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/ I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should arrive around F-19 Beta. +1 for Raspberry-Pi :) It won't be
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
On Friday, 22 March 2013, wrote: HTML activities on Sugar could be a first step to Android porting but IMO, the two projects are not necessarily interconnected. I do like the James idea of a “PhoneGap” framework for Sugar. This is the way I think this GSoC proposal. At the end of the GSoC we can hope to have a binding of the framework for Sugar on Fedora, then in few months a binding of the framework for Sugar on Android. So, the framework will be a way to ensure a portability between Sugar/Fedora and Sugar/Android. I think we basically agree here. I see them interconnected in the sense that the framework is designed to allow bindings on multiple platforms. But of course the GSoC project should focus on only one of them. I’m going to write a first draft of the proposal. We could update it collectively. Cool. I will read it and comment. -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:29 AM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. Very interesting. I had this very same conversation with Seth Woodworth in Cambridge a few weeks ago. We also talked about the possibility of some of the apps from the FirefoxOS world finding their way into re-wrapped Sugar activities. I've cc'd Seth on this. cheers, Sameer James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. Tell me. Best regards from France. Lionel. [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View
Hi Gonzalo. Thanks for this awesome feature !! Just one small issue : I tried it on sugar-build, and sugar failed to start, because BACKGROUND_IMAGE_PATH was None. Changing the method _update_background_image to def _update_background_image(self, *args): self._background_pixbuf = None if BACKGROUND_IMAGE_PATH is None: return if os.path.exists(BACKGROUND_IMAGE_PATH): try: self._background_pixbuf = GdkPixbuf.Pixbuf.new_from_file( BACKGROUND_IMAGE_PATH) self._favorites_eventbox.queue_draw() except: pass does the trick !!! On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Is the way the draw is done in gtk. The eventbox is not a Image where you load a image and then is draw when needed. Gonzalo On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Not a blocking question: but why wait until the draw callback of the eventbox before calling cairo? Can this not be done in the widget creation? Reviewed-by: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Regards, Ajay Garg Dextrose Developer Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
