[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Butiá Firmware-4

2013-07-25 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4621

Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.100

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28704/butia_firmware-4.xo

Release notes:
-new Firmware version (v7)
-add GTK interface (run: ./ButiaFirmware.py)
-support ARM (XO-1.75)
-new translations


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[Sugar-devel] Background in My Settings

2013-07-25 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
Hi all,

When I click on Background in My Settings in sugar-build built Sugar,
nothing seems to happen and it just halts. Are there anyone with the same
issue? Any suggestion to get this fixed?


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Multi selection in the Journal feature

2013-07-25 Thread Manuel Quiñones
Kudos to everyone involved!

2013/7/25 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org:
 Thanks to all who worked on this, and specially to Martin for the feedback
 and help
 in the last steps.

 Gonzalo


 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 On 19 Jul 2013, at 16:02, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:

  Thanks to all the reviews.
  New pull request is available
 
  https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/64

 Cool, I'm looking forward to giving this a try (I don't have an active dev
 build at the moment so will need to wait for it to land in an image). Great
 to see this long requested feature finally make it in! Thanks to all
 involved, and Gonzalo for getting his hands dirty with the final effort to
 land the feature.

 Regards,
 --Gary

 
  Gonzalo
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org
  wrote:
  A initial version to review of the feature is available to test and
  review.
 
  The pull requests are:
 
  sugar-datastore: https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/pull/2
  sugar-artwork: https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/pull/7
  sugar: https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/62
 
  This work is based on previous implementations, but is different in many
  ways.
 
  In particular, the previous implementation had a performance problem,
  when the user wanted to select all the ellements in the journal.
  As the datastore is designed to return the data paginated,
  the journal needed to do several queries to get all the uids needed
  to create the list of selected items.
  This problem is solved adding a method to the datastore to get the uids
  belonging to a query. As the datastore get that information from the
  index,
  the query is really fast.
 
  Other visible change is the use of real checkboxes in the listview,
  instead of icons
  with a checkbox drawn. In a desktop, the checkbox is not displayed
  right,
  but in the xo is ok.
  Surely something we need solve in the theme.
 
  Another difference in behavior is now the user can interrupt a operation
  while is running.
  If you realize you started to delete all the objects in a pen drive, you
  can stop it,
  and at least part will be saved.
 
  Gonzalo
 
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Background in My Settings

2013-07-25 Thread Manuel Quiñones
Yes Kalpa, it is:

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/245

An odd bug that can be seen specially in the Languages section and in
the new Background section.

If I remember correctly, there are patches that fix the bug, with the
exception of the Modem section, which has a rare blocking wait.

2013/7/25 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 When I click on Background in My Settings in sugar-build built Sugar,
 nothing seems to happen and it just halts. Are there anyone with the same
 issue? Any suggestion to get this fixed?


 --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Background in My Settings

2013-07-25 Thread Walter Bender
What Kalpa is describing seems a bit different than 245. Kalpa, can
you please attach shell.log to a ticket?

thanks.

-walter

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
 Yes Kalpa, it is:

 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/245

 An odd bug that can be seen specially in the Languages section and in
 the new Background section.

 If I remember correctly, there are patches that fix the bug, with the
 exception of the Modem section, which has a rare blocking wait.

 2013/7/25 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 When I click on Background in My Settings in sugar-build built Sugar,
 nothing seems to happen and it just halts. Are there anyone with the same
 issue? Any suggestion to get this fixed?


 --
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 Kalpa Welivitigoda
 Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society
 Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering
 University of Moratuwa
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Background in My Settings

2013-07-25 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

 What Kalpa is describing seems a bit different than 245. Kalpa, can
 you please attach shell.log to a ticket?


done

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4598



 thanks.

 -walter

 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
  Yes Kalpa, it is:
 
  http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/245
 
  An odd bug that can be seen specially in the Languages section and in
  the new Background section.
 
  If I remember correctly, there are patches that fix the bug, with the
  exception of the Modem section, which has a rare blocking wait.
 
  2013/7/25 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
  Hi all,
 
  When I click on Background in My Settings in sugar-build built Sugar,
  nothing seems to happen and it just halts. Are there anyone with the
 same
  issue? Any suggestion to get this fixed?
 
 
  --
  Best Regards,
 
  Kalpa Welivitigoda
  Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society
  Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering
  University of Moratuwa
  Sri Lanka
  http://about.me/callkalpa
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Background in My Settings

2013-07-25 Thread Walter Bender
I don't think that the attached shell.log file is correct. It is
somehow truncated. Could you please double-check?

thx

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What Kalpa is describing seems a bit different than 245. Kalpa, can
 you please attach shell.log to a ticket?


 done

 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4598



 thanks.

 -walter

 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
  Yes Kalpa, it is:
 
  http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/245
 
  An odd bug that can be seen specially in the Languages section and in
  the new Background section.
 
  If I remember correctly, there are patches that fix the bug, with the
  exception of the Modem section, which has a rare blocking wait.
 
  2013/7/25 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
  Hi all,
 
  When I click on Background in My Settings in sugar-build built Sugar,
  nothing seems to happen and it just halts. Are there anyone with the
  same
  issue? Any suggestion to get this fixed?
 
 
  --
  Best Regards,
 
  Kalpa Welivitigoda
  Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society
  Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering
  University of Moratuwa
  Sri Lanka
  http://about.me/callkalpa
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Background in My Settings

2013-07-25 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

 I don't think that the attached shell.log file is correct. It is
 somehow truncated. Could you please double-check?


shell.log with debug on submitted. Thanks Walter for the support :-)


 thx

 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  What Kalpa is describing seems a bit different than 245. Kalpa, can
  you please attach shell.log to a ticket?
 
 
  done
 
  http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4598
 
 
 
  thanks.
 
  -walter
 
  On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org
 wrote:
   Yes Kalpa, it is:
  
   http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/245
  
   An odd bug that can be seen specially in the Languages section and in
   the new Background section.
  
   If I remember correctly, there are patches that fix the bug, with the
   exception of the Modem section, which has a rare blocking wait.
  
   2013/7/25 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com:
   Hi all,
  
   When I click on Background in My Settings in sugar-build built
 Sugar,
   nothing seems to happen and it just halts. Are there anyone with the
   same
   issue? Any suggestion to get this fixed?
  
  
   --
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   Kalpa Welivitigoda
   Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society
   Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering
   University of Moratuwa
   Sri Lanka
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[Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build

2013-07-25 Thread James Simmons
I finally got sugar-build working on Fedora 19 last night.  I plan to
update Make Your Own Sugar Activities! to discuss this.  Some stuff I
plan to include:

How to use visudo to edit the sudoers file to allow your account to
install RPMs using sudo.

How to install gcc and python development, which are required for
osbuild build to work.

How to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to open a virtual terminal, which you will use to
run ./osbuild run.  Using Ctrl-Alt-Fkey to go from the Sugar environment
to your Python development environment.

Running multiple copies of sugar-build as different users to test
collaboration with just one PC.

Using the older version of Sugar which runs in a window, and why the
current one does not use a window (problems with keystrokes being
intercepted by Xephyr, etc.)

Avoiding the Shut Down option in sugar-build, because it actually shuts
down the machine.  Using Alt-Shift-Q to quit the Sugar environment.

Speculation on what will happen with future RPM distributions of Sugar.
Will there still be a menu option under Education?

Anything else anyone can think of?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build

2013-07-25 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
 I finally got sugar-build working on Fedora 19 last night.  I plan to update
 Make Your Own Sugar Activities! to discuss this.

Excellent James!

 How to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to open a virtual terminal, which you will use to
 run ./osbuild run.  Using Ctrl-Alt-Fkey to go from the Sugar environment
 to your Python development environment.

Is this really needed? ./osbuild run can be done from inside the
GNOME session.

 Anything else anyone can think of?

Start promoting the development of web activities?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build

2013-07-25 Thread James Simmons
Manuel,

I am aware that ./osbuild run can be done from within a GNOME session.  I
did it that way the first time I ran it.  What I need to provide to my
readers is a way they can easily move from a development environment to a
Sugar environment and back again.  Running Sugar in a window made that
easy.  Generally when I debug a Sugar Activity I just quit and relaunch the
Activity to test it.  Relaunching Sugar is not necessary.  The business
with launching it from a virtual terminal makes that possible, and also
makes it possible to run multiple copies of Sugar under different IDs so
you can test collaboration.  In the absence of any instructions I assumed
that this is what I was meant to do.  If there is an easier way to bounce
between Sugar and GNOME without restarting Sugar each time I'd love to hear
about it.

As for web activities, we do have a guest chapter from Lionel on the
subject.  I agree the book needs more but I get the impression that we're
still working out the details on this.  I am somewhat comfortable with
HTML, JS, CSS, embedded fonts, and the like but I may not be the best
person to write these chapters, at least until things stabilize a bit.

James Simmons


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
  I finally got sugar-build working on Fedora 19 last night.  I plan to
 update
  Make Your Own Sugar Activities! to discuss this.

 Excellent James!

  How to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to open a virtual terminal, which you will use
 to
  run ./osbuild run.  Using Ctrl-Alt-Fkey to go from the Sugar
 environment
  to your Python development environment.

 Is this really needed? ./osbuild run can be done from inside the
 GNOME session.

  Anything else anyone can think of?

 Start promoting the development of web activities?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build

2013-07-25 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:
 Manuel,

 I am aware that ./osbuild run can be done from within a GNOME session.  I
 did it that way the first time I ran it.  What I need to provide to my
 readers is a way they can easily move from a development environment to a
 Sugar environment and back again.  Running Sugar in a window made that easy.
 Generally when I debug a Sugar Activity I just quit and relaunch the
 Activity to test it.  Relaunching Sugar is not necessary.  The business with
 launching it from a virtual terminal makes that possible, and also makes it
 possible to run multiple copies of Sugar under different IDs so you can test
 collaboration.  In the absence of any instructions I assumed that this is
 what I was meant to do.  If there is an easier way to bounce between Sugar
 and GNOME without restarting Sugar each time I'd love to hear about it.

When you run Sugar using ./osbuild run, even though Sugar is running
full screen, it is running in a window in GNOME, so you can switch to
other windows within the GNOME session, and, for example, edit
activities.


 As for web activities, we do have a guest chapter from Lionel on the
 subject.  I agree the book needs more but I get the impression that we're
 still working out the details on this.  I am somewhat comfortable with HTML,
 JS, CSS, embedded fonts, and the like but I may not be the best person to
 write these chapters, at least until things stabilize a bit.

 James Simmons


 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
  I finally got sugar-build working on Fedora 19 last night.  I plan to
  update
  Make Your Own Sugar Activities! to discuss this.

 Excellent James!

  How to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to open a virtual terminal, which you will use
  to
  run ./osbuild run.  Using Ctrl-Alt-Fkey to go from the Sugar
  environment
  to your Python development environment.

 Is this really needed? ./osbuild run can be done from inside the
 GNOME session.

  Anything else anyone can think of?

 Start promoting the development of web activities?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build

2013-07-25 Thread James Simmons
I noticed that the sugar-build script installs the framebuffer version of
X11 so I assumed it was meant to start from a virtual terminal.  That does
work.

If it is running in a GNOME window but full screen how do you go about
switching to another window?  Would Alt-Tab do it?  I remember that we
wanted to get rid of Xephyr, and I've experienced problems with Sugar in
Xephyr myself so I can see why, but I'm still kind of puzzled by this and I
think MYOSA readers would be too.

James Simmons



On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Manuel,
 
  I am aware that ./osbuild run can be done from within a GNOME session.  I
  did it that way the first time I ran it.  What I need to provide to my
  readers is a way they can easily move from a development environment to a
  Sugar environment and back again.  Running Sugar in a window made that
 easy.
  Generally when I debug a Sugar Activity I just quit and relaunch the
  Activity to test it.  Relaunching Sugar is not necessary.  The business
 with
  launching it from a virtual terminal makes that possible, and also makes
 it
  possible to run multiple copies of Sugar under different IDs so you can
 test
  collaboration.  In the absence of any instructions I assumed that this is
  what I was meant to do.  If there is an easier way to bounce between
 Sugar
  and GNOME without restarting Sugar each time I'd love to hear about it.

 When you run Sugar using ./osbuild run, even though Sugar is running
 full screen, it is running in a window in GNOME, so you can switch to
 other windows within the GNOME session, and, for example, edit
 activities.

 
  As for web activities, we do have a guest chapter from Lionel on the
  subject.  I agree the book needs more but I get the impression that we're
  still working out the details on this.  I am somewhat comfortable with
 HTML,
  JS, CSS, embedded fonts, and the like but I may not be the best person to
  write these chapters, at least until things stabilize a bit.
 
  James Simmons
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org
 wrote:
 
  2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
   I finally got sugar-build working on Fedora 19 last night.  I plan to
   update
   Make Your Own Sugar Activities! to discuss this.
 
  Excellent James!
 
   How to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to open a virtual terminal, which you will
 use
   to
   run ./osbuild run.  Using Ctrl-Alt-Fkey to go from the Sugar
   environment
   to your Python development environment.
 
  Is this really needed? ./osbuild run can be done from inside the
  GNOME session.
 
   Anything else anyone can think of?
 
  Start promoting the development of web activities?
 
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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Image Viewer-58

2013-07-25 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4032

Sugar Platform:
0.100 - 0.100

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28706/image_viewer-58.xo

Release notes:
Avoid error opening the image with the object chooser - SL #4540


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Image Viewer-58

2013-07-25 Thread Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez
Better late than never!
Sorry for the long delay, releasing this version, here is the tarball:
http://people.sugarlabs.org/aguz/ImageViewer-58.tar.bz2

Regards,
aguz

2013/7/25 Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build

2013-07-25 Thread mokurai
Alt-tab to go between Sugar and other programs is very clumsy at first,
but works. When I do this from a full-screen Sugar session I don't get the
usual view of icons of other applications to choose from, but once I have
Sugar and the program I want to alternate with set up for toggling
between, it is quite easy.

On Thu, July 25, 2013 12:10 pm, James Simmons wrote:
 Manuel,

 I am aware that ./osbuild run can be done from within a GNOME session.
I
 did it that way the first time I ran it.  What I need to provide to my
readers is a way they can easily move from a development environment to
a
 Sugar environment and back again.  Running Sugar in a window made that
easy.  Generally when I debug a Sugar Activity I just quit and relaunch
the
 Activity to test it.  Relaunching Sugar is not necessary.  The business
with launching it from a virtual terminal makes that possible, and also
makes it possible to run multiple copies of Sugar under different IDs so
you can test collaboration.  In the absence of any instructions I
assumed
 that this is what I was meant to do.  If there is an easier way to
bounce
 between Sugar and GNOME without restarting Sugar each time I'd love to hear
 about it.

 As for web activities, we do have a guest chapter from Lionel on the
subject.  I agree the book needs more but I get the impression that
we're
 still working out the details on this.  I am somewhat comfortable with
HTML, JS, CSS, embedded fonts, and the like but I may not be the best
person to write these chapters, at least until things stabilize a bit.

 James Simmons


 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:

 2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
  I finally got sugar-build working on Fedora 19 last night.  I plan to
 update
  Make Your Own Sugar Activities! to discuss this.
 Excellent James!
  How to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to open a virtual terminal, which you will
 use
 to
  run ./osbuild run.  Using Ctrl-Alt-Fkey to go from the Sugar
 environment
  to your Python development environment.
 Is this really needed? ./osbuild run can be done from inside the
GNOME session.
  Anything else anyone can think of?
 Start promoting the development of web activities?
 .. manuq ..
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Build broken, sugar

2013-07-25 Thread mokurai
Aha! It compiles now on Ubuntu 13.04. Thank you.

However, the following activities fail to start.

Etoys
Jigsaw Puzzle
Pippy
TestWebActivity

Fortunately, I can run Etoys directly on Ubuntu, but not with Sugar
collaboration.

Do we know what the problems are with these activities?

On Tue, July 23, 2013 2:45 am, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
 We need to add python-mock to build/root.json, sugar group (chroot branch).

 My fault for forgetting about it when approving the pull request, but I
can't fix it myself for a few days.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build

2013-07-25 Thread James Simmons
I tried out Alt-Tab switching and it works fine.  I also tried prefs.json,
with mixed results.  This is the contents of the file:

{
resolution: 1024x768,
profile: Willy Wonka
}

Resolution worked just fine, and Sugar showed up in a window just like the
old days.  Instead of saying Sugar in a Window it says Sugar Runner.  I
can't tell if it still uses Xephyr or not.

On the other hand, profile got ignored.  In the F1 and F2 views of Sugar
I am identified as James Simmons from my login id, not Willy Wonka.

It seems to me that getting rid of Xephyr was supposed to be a big change
but I'm not seeing that.  If you specify a window size everything seems the
same as before.  You *can* run Sugar from a text mode virtual terminal,
which may or may not be new.

James Simmons



On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:01 PM, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote:

 Alt-tab to go between Sugar and other programs is very clumsy at first,
 but works. When I do this from a full-screen Sugar session I don't get the
 usual view of icons of other applications to choose from, but once I have
 Sugar and the program I want to alternate with set up for toggling
 between, it is quite easy.

 On Thu, July 25, 2013 12:10 pm, James Simmons wrote:
  Manuel,
 
  I am aware that ./osbuild run can be done from within a GNOME session.
 I
  did it that way the first time I ran it.  What I need to provide to my
 readers is a way they can easily move from a development environment to
 a
  Sugar environment and back again.  Running Sugar in a window made that
 easy.  Generally when I debug a Sugar Activity I just quit and relaunch
 the
  Activity to test it.  Relaunching Sugar is not necessary.  The business
 with launching it from a virtual terminal makes that possible, and also
 makes it possible to run multiple copies of Sugar under different IDs so
 you can test collaboration.  In the absence of any instructions I
 assumed
  that this is what I was meant to do.  If there is an easier way to
 bounce
  between Sugar and GNOME without restarting Sugar each time I'd love to
 hear
  about it.
 
  As for web activities, we do have a guest chapter from Lionel on the
 subject.  I agree the book needs more but I get the impression that
 we're
  still working out the details on this.  I am somewhat comfortable with
 HTML, JS, CSS, embedded fonts, and the like but I may not be the best
 person to write these chapters, at least until things stabilize a bit.
 
  James Simmons
 
 
  On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org
 wrote:
 
  2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
   I finally got sugar-build working on Fedora 19 last night.  I plan to
  update
   Make Your Own Sugar Activities! to discuss this.
  Excellent James!
   How to use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to open a virtual terminal, which you will
  use
  to
   run ./osbuild run.  Using Ctrl-Alt-Fkey to go from the Sugar
  environment
   to your Python development environment.
  Is this really needed? ./osbuild run can be done from inside the
 GNOME session.
   Anything else anyone can think of?
  Start promoting the development of web activities?
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