Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build
2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
I tried out Alt-Tab switching and it works fine. I also tried prefs.json,
with mixed results. This is the contents of the file:
{
resolution: 1024x768,
profile: Willy Wonka
}
Resolution worked just fine, and Sugar showed up in a window just like the
old days. Instead of saying Sugar in a Window it says Sugar Runner. I
can't tell if it still uses Xephyr or not.
If you are running sugar-build master, then yes, it uses Xephyr. You
can tell by looking at the running processes, for example with: ps -e
--forest
The chroot branch has not been merged yet.
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[Sugar-devel] Android ActionBar and Activity Toolbar
Andrew pointed me to the Android ActionBar: - http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/actionbar.html - http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html It is pretty standard on Android apps, and gives consistency between them. For Sugar activities running on Android, we should aim to keep that consistency. And according to their documentation, it is one of the most important design elements that developers can implement. The good news is that the ActionBar really is very similar to our Activity Toolbar: - has the app icon on the left - tends to have icon-only buttons - has a drop-down menu Next to the App Icon, the bar can have a View Control, to switch views. Sugar activities don't usually have different views, so we can ignore this difference. The drop-down menu is for the buttons that overflow, and for less often used buttons. We have the first in GTK, not the second. Android also have split action bars, which is very interesting for a solution to the design issue we were bumping with in GTK: toolbars whose elements don't fit in portrait mode. So the question is: what kind of consistency will we favor? - consistency between sugar activities and other android apps? - consistency between sugar activities in any platform? - or can we find something in between? To make sugar activities more like other Android apps, we could programmatically replace the HTML toolbar with an Android ActionBar. But then we'll lose Sugar palettes and the Sugar theme. Or we'll have to implement the Sugar theme on Android. After all this considerations I conclude that we should make the HTML toolbar imitate the ActionBar in style and behaviour. 1. Keep the web-activity toolbar on Android, not replace it with an ActionBar. 2. When the activity runs on Android, make the web-activity toolbar as similar as possible as the standard Android ActionBar. This is: - Make the toolbar height the same height as the ActionBar of other apps in the same device. - Have a drop-down menu. We need to implement it anyways for when icons don't fit, like in GTK. - Take advantage of the drop-down menu to add the View Source. In Sugar GTK, we only have access to the View Source from the Frame. - Use long-press to display the button tooltip. I was going to implement this anyways, we have the same behaviour in GTK activities. - Hide the Stop Button in Android and in the browser. Thoughts? -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Android ActionBar and Activity Toolbar
2013/7/26 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: Andrew pointed me to the Android ActionBar: - Hide the Stop Button in Android and in the browser. Forgot to explain this. Android apps don't use to have a Stop/close button, and the web-activity Stop button looks a bit odd on Android. The same happens when the activity runs standalone in a Browser. I think we should hide it in those cases. -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] looking for more activity reviewers
We have a bit of a log jam forming on activities.sugarlabs.org so I am reaching out to community members who would be interested in joining the activity team to provide peer reviews. It doesn't require programming skills, just some familiarity with Sugar. The idea is to review new activity submissions for content and quality before they are set to non-experimental in the Sugar App Store. I am happy to walk any interested parties through the process. Please contact me. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] looking for more activity reviewers
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: We have a bit of a log jam forming on activities.sugarlabs.org so I am reaching out to community members who would be interested in joining the activity team to provide peer reviews. It doesn't require programming skills, just some familiarity with Sugar. The idea is to review new activity submissions for content and quality before they are set to non-experimental in the Sugar App Store. I would like to contribute in reviewing. I am happy to walk any interested parties through the process. Please contact me. Yes it is better to have a proper guidence. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka http://about.me/callkalpa ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] looking for more activity reviewers
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: I need to disappear for an hour or so, but will look for you later. I am also off to bed. Will follow you may be tomorrow on irc or if you can drop an mail with guidance, that would too be fine. You have an account set up already? At activities.sugarlabs.org? Yes -walter On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: We have a bit of a log jam forming on activities.sugarlabs.org so I am reaching out to community members who would be interested in joining the activity team to provide peer reviews. It doesn't require programming skills, just some familiarity with Sugar. The idea is to review new activity submissions for content and quality before they are set to non-experimental in the Sugar App Store. I would like to contribute in reviewing. I am happy to walk any interested parties through the process. Please contact me. Yes it is better to have a proper guidence. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka http://about.me/callkalpa -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka http://about.me/callkalpa ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Usage of sugar-build
I probably will not do much updating to MYOSA on sugar-build until the
chroot branch has been merged, then. As long as Xephyr is still in there
the instructions I have should be tolerable. I might put in something
about the need to update the sudoers table with visudo and give an
example, as that could be a stumbling block for some.
I am a bit puzzled about profile not working. I *think* I'm doing it
right.
James Simmons
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
2013/7/25 James Simmons nices...@gmail.com:
I tried out Alt-Tab switching and it works fine. I also tried
prefs.json,
with mixed results. This is the contents of the file:
{
resolution: 1024x768,
profile: Willy Wonka
}
Resolution worked just fine, and Sugar showed up in a window just like
the
old days. Instead of saying Sugar in a Window it says Sugar Runner.
I
can't tell if it still uses Xephyr or not.
If you are running sugar-build master, then yes, it uses Xephyr. You
can tell by looking at the running processes, for example with: ps -e
--forest
The chroot branch has not been merged yet.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] looking for more activity reviewers
I'm ready for this.. User: ignaciorodrig...@sugarlabs.org 2013/7/26 Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: I need to disappear for an hour or so, but will look for you later. I am also off to bed. Will follow you may be tomorrow on irc or if you can drop an mail with guidance, that would too be fine. You have an account set up already? At activities.sugarlabs.org? Yes -walter On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Kalpa Welivitigoda callka...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: We have a bit of a log jam forming on activities.sugarlabs.org so I am reaching out to community members who would be interested in joining the activity team to provide peer reviews. It doesn't require programming skills, just some familiarity with Sugar. The idea is to review new activity submissions for content and quality before they are set to non-experimental in the Sugar App Store. I would like to contribute in reviewing. I am happy to walk any interested parties through the process. Please contact me. Yes it is better to have a proper guidence. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka http://about.me/callkalpa -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka http://about.me/callkalpa ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ignacio Rodríguez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] looking for more activity reviewers
Hi, I'm used to the process of software reviews and I very much like to help out. Please let me know what you're process is. I'm registered at activities.sugarlabs.org with andigro...@gmail.com Andi On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: We have a bit of a log jam forming on activities.sugarlabs.org so I am reaching out to community members who would be interested in joining the activity team to provide peer reviews. It doesn't require programming skills, just some familiarity with Sugar. The idea is to review new activity submissions for content and quality before they are set to non-experimental in the Sugar App Store. I am happy to walk any interested parties through the process. Please contact me. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] looking for more activity reviewers
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Andreas Gros i...@andreasgros.net wrote: Hi, I'm used to the process of software reviews and I very much like to help out. Please let me know what you're process is. I'm registered at activities.sugarlabs.org with andigro...@gmail.com Andi Hi Walter, my user name is callka...@gmail.com On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: We have a bit of a log jam forming on activities.sugarlabs.org so I am reaching out to community members who would be interested in joining the activity team to provide peer reviews. It doesn't require programming skills, just some familiarity with Sugar. The idea is to review new activity submissions for content and quality before they are set to non-experimental in the Sugar App Store. I am happy to walk any interested parties through the process. Please contact me. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka http://about.me/callkalpa ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
