[Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
Hi, this is a general question but related with Sugar. I have made changes in olpc-utils to log the session duration and kind (Sugar or GNOME). This will be used for statistics. https://github.com/manuq/olpc-utils/compare/boot-stats?expand=1 My log format is now: START_SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:17:33:17 END 27/Feb/2014:17:59:47 START_SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:18:00:24 END 27/Feb/2014:18:44:54 START_GNOME 27/Feb/2014:18:45:30 END 27/Feb/2014:18:50:26 START SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:18:51:03 END 27/Feb/2014:18:57:58 But I see that in many places Linux logs times as date +%s, which outputs seconds like: 1393595186 . What is best? -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
I think the seconds format is more useful for the purposes of subsequent analysis. -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, this is a general question but related with Sugar. I have made changes in olpc-utils to log the session duration and kind (Sugar or GNOME). This will be used for statistics. https://github.com/manuq/olpc-utils/compare/boot-stats?expand=1 My log format is now: START_SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:17:33:17 END 27/Feb/2014:17:59:47 START_SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:18:00:24 END 27/Feb/2014:18:44:54 START_GNOME 27/Feb/2014:18:45:30 END 27/Feb/2014:18:50:26 START SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:18:51:03 END 27/Feb/2014:18:57:58 But I see that in many places Linux logs times as date +%s, which outputs seconds like: 1393595186 . What is best? -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
We've discussed (in AU) adding something similar to Sugar activities: a metadata field with the elapsed time that the activity is visible. We should coordinate all of these changes. regards. -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I think the seconds format is more useful for the purposes of subsequent analysis. -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, this is a general question but related with Sugar. I have made changes in olpc-utils to log the session duration and kind (Sugar or GNOME). This will be used for statistics. https://github.com/manuq/olpc-utils/compare/boot-stats?expand=1 My log format is now: START_SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:17:33:17 END 27/Feb/2014:17:59:47 START_SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:18:00:24 END 27/Feb/2014:18:44:54 START_GNOME 27/Feb/2014:18:45:30 END 27/Feb/2014:18:50:26 START SUGAR 27/Feb/2014:18:51:03 END 27/Feb/2014:18:57:58 But I see that in many places Linux logs times as date +%s, which outputs seconds like: 1393595186 . What is best? -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
2014-02-28 11:04 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: We've discussed (in AU) adding something similar to Sugar activities: a metadata field with the elapsed time that the activity is visible. We should coordinate all of these changes. Absolutely. I'm trying Martin's Harvest and looking how it can be extended. Thanks for the time format tip. -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
It seems time on activity is an oft-requested feature. IMHO, we should maintain those data in the activity instance metadata like we do launch times et al. Should be a fairly straight-forward patch. (My rationale is that making it part of the activity metadata, it is accessible to the Sugar user -- part of the effort to make learning visible to the learner, not just the administrator.) -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2014-02-28 11:04 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: We've discussed (in AU) adding something similar to Sugar activities: a metadata field with the elapsed time that the activity is visible. We should coordinate all of these changes. Absolutely. I'm trying Martin's Harvest and looking how it can be extended. Thanks for the time format tip. -- .. manuq .. -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Announce Vikidia: the Wikipedia for children, now available in english
Vikidia, the Wikipedia for/by children opens in english today. Details here: http://olpc-france.org/blog/2014/02/a-counterpart-of-wikipedia-for-children-vikidia-to-open-in-english/ And the website here: http://en.vikidia.org Vikidia's founder and contributors (children) will be and talk about the project at the SugarCamp meeting in Paris -- come and meet them! http://www.amiando.com/sugarcamp3.html -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
On Friday, February 28, 2014 09:12:58 AM Walter Bender wrote: It seems time on activity is an oft-requested feature. IMHO, we should maintain those data in the activity instance metadata like we do launch times et al. Should be a fairly straight-forward patch. (My rationale is that making it part of the activity metadata, it is accessible to the Sugar user -- part of the effort to make learning visible to the learner, not just the administrator.) On of the requirements of our work is to have the log time in millisecond, or microseconds if possible. We would like to measure response times in Chat activity. Often, multiple responses can be seen within one second when a group is chatting, which does not allow us to calculate the response times. We did tweak our local instance of Chat activity to write logs with microseconds. But it will be good if this feature is available across all activities. -- GN ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86
At this point I would like to mention some last words and then stop sending e-mails to this thread. I am sorry to say that I could not tell you and others what I really wanted to say. Maybe, it was due to a language barrier on my side. Ich kann auch in Deutsch schreiben, falls es so leichter für alle Beteiligten und Interessierten ist. So, a last time once again. In general, if a registered trademark is very well known by the public, or said in other words, if it is part of the colloquial language/common speech, then such a trademark can be deleted from a trademark registry, which surely results in an update of the WIPO ROMARIN database. The registered trademark 'LEGO' is such a registered trademark, which has become a term/word of many common speeches worldwide, definitely. For example, a very common speech act is 'Let's play lego', like the speech act 'Let's google it'. In this respect I wrote before, that I do not think that Lego is in control over its registered trademark 'LEGO' anymore, because I think that the term/word 'lego' is part of many common speeches worldwide and hence should be deleted from the related trademark registries respectively databases due to the legal rule that a term/word that belongs to a common speech is not qualified to be protected by the public as a registered trademark (anymore). I did not meant that the term/word 'lego' is not a registered trademark of Lego. I meant that Lego might loose it potentially due to the laws. If the company Lego thinks that a person, group or corporation has infringed its trademark 'LEGO', wants to vigorously defend this infringement, and sues this person, group, or corporation, then Lego risks that the opposite party questions the legality of Lego's trademark registration and in this way start a legal process that in the end deletes the registered trademark 'LEGO' from the registry. In fact, here begins highly complex legal stuff even for the company Lego and it is already up to Lego how far it goes with its gambling in this specific case of the term/word 'lego' that is actually registered as the trademark 'LEGO'. By the way: A similar case at the courts was e.g. Lindows vs. Windows, that ended with a big cheque for the side of Lindows (see [2]). This is how it works at least in Europe, and in this respect the statements on the referenced webpage of Lego (see [1]) have to be seen as well. In fact, some rules are simply said not as valid as Lego claims as part of its gambling. Said this, the WIPO ROMARIN database does not contradict me regarding the registered trademark 'LEGO'. By the way, the term/word 'sugar' is also part of common speech. Have fun Christian Stroetmann [1] aboutus.lego.com/en-gb/legal-notice/fair-play http://aboutus.lego.com/en-gb/legal-notice/fair-play [2] Wikipedia, Linspire en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindows WIPO's Romarin database contradicts you regarding the LEGO mark. LEGO vigorously defend infringement of their marks (http://aboutus.lego.com/en-gb/legal-notice/fair-play). Sean On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com mailto:stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: On Thu, 27.02.2014 01 tel:27.02.2014%2001:13, Bastien wrote: Christian Stroetmannstroetm...@ontolab.com mailto:stroetm...@ontolab.com writes: For sure, there is the One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) respectively One Pad Per Child (OPPC) project by my business division intellitablet since July 2012 (see [1]). A trademark is not just about adding (TM) after a bunch of other trademarks. I doubt you officially registered One Tablet Per Child. I mean... One LEGO Laptop Per Child (TM)... a new trademark with LEGO within it, seriously? You are right and wrong. Indeed, the related laws are complex and it needs some time and often support by an attorney for common people to understand them a little. So please, ask a attorney, and keep in mind that the terms are used commercially and are copyrighted as well. That is also the reason, why a said in an e-mail before, that the issue with the trademark is irrelevant here. The point with LEGO in a new trademark is serious. For example, if a registered trademark belongs to a common language, which is the case if the trademark is known very well by the public, like for example Lego, Windows, Google, Android, and so on, then the trademark laws say, that it can be deleted from the trademark register. Said this, I already doubt in this specific case that the company LEGO has still control over the trademark LEGO. Nevertheless, it was meant as a place holder and an idea contributer, if the company LEGO would be interested in such a One LEGO Laptop Per Child (TM) device on the one hand and on the other hand a mark that my company publicated the concept
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86
Samuel: Im sorry to say, but I wished nothing in this respect, like discussing legal issues with somebody or reaching an agreement with Sugar Labs, because the Sugar learning software is licensed under the GPL. I only sent an e-mail to this mailing list, because Daniel Narvaez started this thread mentioning a combination of Sugar and Boot to Gecko (B2G; officially called Firefox OS; Gecko is the web browser rendering engine of Firefox) of the Mozilla foundation, which exactly is Sugarfox, and because I think that if somebody starts a private, public or commercial project, product or service related with Sugar, then it would be nice if she/he informs the related groups of Sugar on their mailing lists. In relation with the legal issues, it was Lionel at first and then others, who said something about trademarks, while I said directly in my second e-mail that it is irrelevant here. But despite of this, I think that legal issues are important to know as well for developers volunteering in open source software projects that go beyond questions related with open source software licenses. So I simply wanted to be polite and have answered the questions. Have fun Christian Stroetmann Christian: This is an email mailing list primarily made of volunteers. To the best of my knowledge no one involved with this email thread so far (including me) is authorized to act on their own on behalf of Sugar Labs or OLPC. Likewise, no individual you are speaking with likely can legally bind either Sugar Labs or OLPC to an agreement. If you wish to discussion trademarks or the rights to features, I recommend contacting either of their legal counsels or registered agents directly. I would further recommend that everyone hold off on saying anything else on this email thread. This is something for the lawyers to handle, and none of us are legal counsel. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com mailto:stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: Hello Paul You wrote: james wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:55:36AM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote: For sure, there is the One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) respectively One Pad Per Child (OPPC) project by my business division intellitablet since July 2012 (see [1]). You are contracted by OLPC? So, please could you take a look and tell me when the OLPC announced their tablet computer. No, I do not have access to those records. Relying only on public record, http://blog.laptop.org/ the multi-child XO Tablet manufactured by Vivitar and OLPC was announced as available for retail sale at Walmart.com on July 16 2013. There was an announcement before that on January 9 2013 associated with CES. I don't see how this is relevant to sugar-devel@ mailing list. [1] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) and One Pad Per Child (OPPC/OPsup2;C) #1 www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012 http://www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012 from the pictures at that link, it seems to be related to the XO-3, which, while under developmentd for a very long time, was never released, nor produced in more than prototype quantities. and, it was a very different beast than the XO Tablet produced by vivitar. (i know that james knows this -- i'm just clarifying for others.) paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org mailto:p...@laptop.org Thank you for your clarification. Indeed, the One Tablet Per Child project was started by intelliTablet, because the XO-3 never came to market. But form my point of view the chronology has some more facts to list: 1. The OLPC developed the concept and a design study of the XO-2 in 2008. 2. I showed a picture of the XO-1Beta of the year 2005 on one of my websites [1]. Because I thought the XO-1 is already a convertible laptop respectively tablet laptop (see also [2]) that features a touchscreen, due to the reason that I confused touch pad with touchscreen, I described the XO-1 as Tablet Computer Convertible One Laptop per Child (OLPC) XO-1 (move the mouse on the image to see the description). 3. The OLPC developed the concept and prototypes of the XO-3 and presented it on the CES in January 2012 for example. 4. Because the OLPC presented the XO-2 and the XO-3, but no direct successor of the XO-1, my business division intelliTablet came back to my concept of the convertible tablet computer variant of the XO-1 (see again point 2.) and presented it on the 17th of July 2012 and 19th of July 2012 ([3] and [4]). The device should be an
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
Interesting Nagarjuna, 2014-02-28 12:36 GMT-03:00 Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org: On Friday, February 28, 2014 09:12:58 AM Walter Bender wrote: It seems time on activity is an oft-requested feature. IMHO, we should maintain those data in the activity instance metadata like we do launch times et al. Should be a fairly straight-forward patch. (My rationale is that making it part of the activity metadata, it is accessible to the Sugar user -- part of the effort to make learning visible to the learner, not just the administrator.) On of the requirements of our work is to have the log time in millisecond, or microseconds if possible. We would like to measure response times in Chat activity. Often, multiple responses can be seen within one second when a group is chatting, which does not allow us to calculate the response times. We did tweak our local instance of Chat activity to write logs with microseconds. But it will be good if this feature is available across all activities. I guess it depends on the data. Nanoseconds can be obtained with command: date +%s.%N 1393609027.074597846 -- GN -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: In this respect I wrote before, that I do not think that Lego is in control over its registered trademark 'LEGO' anymore, This has nothing to do with Sugar, nor OLPC. Perhaps a mailing list about trademarks is more appropriate (hint: you might find you are wrong). Many (most?) active members on this list have contributed a huge amount of their time over years to OLPC and Sugar, with a mix of volunteer and paid-for work. And essentially from the heart. If a person of subgroup is taking trademarks over something this group has worked on with passion is seen as a form of profiteering on the back of our devoted work. Unless you are going to hand over the trademarks to the SugarLabs non-profit, it just does not make you many friends around here. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first ~ http://docs.moodle.org/en/User:Martin_Langhoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86
On Fri, 28.02.2014 19:41, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: In this respect I wrote before, that I do not think that Lego is in control over its registered trademark 'LEGO' anymore, This has nothing to do with Sugar, nor OLPC. Perhaps a mailing list about trademarks is more appropriate (hint: you might find you are wrong). Please, read the e-mails correctly, specifically the e-mail I sent to Samuel Greenfield today. Many (most?) active members on this list have contributed a huge amount of their time over years to OLPC and Sugar, with a mix of volunteer and paid-for work. And essentially from the heart. If a person of subgroup is taking trademarks over something this group has worked on with passion is seen as a form of profiteering on the back of our devoted work. Unless you are going to hand over the trademarks to the SugarLabs non-profit, it just does not make you many friends around here. m The sound makes the music. MfG With friendly greetings Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] language section in control panel
Just FYI, I've done some refactoring of the language control panel in an attempt to make it a bit easier to navigate [1]. So far, I've pulled out the country into a separate combo box from the language itself. The idea is to search for language and then refine the search by country. This reduces the length of the initial search significantly as many languages have many country-specific codes. However, the language list is still really unwieldy. I am going to replace the combo boxes with palettes in a manner similar to what I did with the journal search filters [2]. Stay tuned. [1] https://github.com/walterbender/sugar/commit/59d09d6dde042dee60c4d744b45b76270f025cba [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/265 -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] language section in control panel
2014-02-28 19:30 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: Just FYI, I've done some refactoring of the language control panel in an attempt to make it a bit easier to navigate [1]. So far, I've pulled out the country into a separate combo box from the language itself. The idea is to search for language and then refine the search by country. This reduces the length of the initial search significantly as many languages have many country-specific codes. However, the language list is still really unwieldy. I am going to replace the combo boxes with palettes in a manner similar to what I did with the journal search filters [2]. Stay tuned. [1] https://github.com/walterbender/sugar/commit/59d09d6dde042dee60c4d744b45b76270f025cba [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/265 Excellent! Let's do a design meeting next week. Monday and Tuesday are holidays here for carnival. Is Wednesday fine for you? -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] language section in control panel
Wednesday is mostly good. Just busy from 15:00-17:00 EST -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2014-02-28 19:30 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: Just FYI, I've done some refactoring of the language control panel in an attempt to make it a bit easier to navigate [1]. So far, I've pulled out the country into a separate combo box from the language itself. The idea is to search for language and then refine the search by country. This reduces the length of the initial search significantly as many languages have many country-specific codes. However, the language list is still really unwieldy. I am going to replace the combo boxes with palettes in a manner similar to what I did with the journal search filters [2]. Stay tuned. [1] https://github.com/walterbender/sugar/commit/59d09d6dde042dee60c4d744b45b76270f025cba [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/265 Excellent! Let's do a design meeting next week. Monday and Tuesday are holidays here for carnival. Is Wednesday fine for you? -- .. manuq .. -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] language section in control panel
2014-02-28 20:18 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: Wednesday is mostly good. Just busy from 15:00-17:00 EST Is that 20 - 22 UTC? Or you are under daylight savings? What about 1 hour meeting starting at 13 UTC? -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2014-02-28 19:30 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: Just FYI, I've done some refactoring of the language control panel in an attempt to make it a bit easier to navigate [1]. So far, I've pulled out the country into a separate combo box from the language itself. The idea is to search for language and then refine the search by country. This reduces the length of the initial search significantly as many languages have many country-specific codes. However, the language list is still really unwieldy. I am going to replace the combo boxes with palettes in a manner similar to what I did with the journal search filters [2]. Stay tuned. [1] https://github.com/walterbender/sugar/commit/59d09d6dde042dee60c4d744b45b76270f025cba [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/265 Excellent! Let's do a design meeting next week. Monday and Tuesday are holidays here for carnival. Is Wednesday fine for you? -- .. manuq .. -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] language section in control panel
13UTC works for me :) -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2014-02-28 20:18 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: Wednesday is mostly good. Just busy from 15:00-17:00 EST Is that 20 - 22 UTC? Or you are under daylight savings? What about 1 hour meeting starting at 13 UTC? -walter On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2014-02-28 19:30 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: Just FYI, I've done some refactoring of the language control panel in an attempt to make it a bit easier to navigate [1]. So far, I've pulled out the country into a separate combo box from the language itself. The idea is to search for language and then refine the search by country. This reduces the length of the initial search significantly as many languages have many country-specific codes. However, the language list is still really unwieldy. I am going to replace the combo boxes with palettes in a manner similar to what I did with the journal search filters [2]. Stay tuned. [1] https://github.com/walterbender/sugar/commit/59d09d6dde042dee60c4d744b45b76270f025cba [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/265 Excellent! Let's do a design meeting next week. Monday and Tuesday are holidays here for carnival. Is Wednesday fine for you? -- .. manuq .. -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- .. manuq .. -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] Re: [support-gang] Announce Vikidia: the Wikipedia for children, now available in english
Hi Tim, Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com writes: Any possibility of having an offline version on the server? Yes, through http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Kiwix-serve Also Kiwix is available as a Sugar Activity: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/fr/sugar/addon/4483 We just need to request the creation of a .zim file for the english Vikidia to the Kiwix team. Best, -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Best time format for logging?
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:39:41PM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: date +%s.%N 1393609027.074597846 Yes, this is adequate, though sometimes the fractional value can be imprecise as it depends on many factors. For response times, it is useful, but care should be taken to record the value in the most primitive form and do the conversion to text some other time, otherwise the measurement can affect the result. For the case in olpc-utils you change in your patch, use the %s format character. You don't need higher resolution for that use case. The epoch time is the most useful, as it is independent of time zone configuration on the system. In the case of your code, you can optimise it to avoid creating a process to exec /bin/date, by using printf in bash: printf 'START_SUGAR %(%s)T\n' -1 $HOME/.olpc-launch-stats If you use -2 instead of -1, you will get the time the olpc-session process started, rather than the current time. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Request for review of patch
Hi. I've made a PR : https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/259 Can someone please review it? Thanks. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
