Re: [Sugar-devel] VM for building an ARM image

2015-06-24 Thread James Cameron
I've tested building with QEMU emulation, with BeagleBone Black
hardware, and with XO-4 hardware, and the XO-4 hardware is the
fastest of the three.

An ARM development system with more memory, faster cores, and SATA
disk interface, will perform better.

We still use Fedora 18 to build Fedora 20 on the XO-4,
because of unsolved problem http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12837

Instructions for setting up Fedora 20 on QEMU emulator can be found at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F20/Installation#For_Versatile_Express_Emulation_with_QEMU

Thanks for the pointer to:
https://olpcau.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/servlet/mobile#content/view/28016655

I was not aware of it.  It is so sad that teams doing building have
not shared their work with OLPC and the Sugar Labs community.  Please
do share your work!

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:44:32AM -0300, Gustavo Duarte wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> I woluld like to know what is the best emulator setup to get a VM for builing
> like Martin describes here  [1]https://www.google.com.uy/url?sa=t&source=web&;
> rct=j&ei=D3aLVaP8Norz-QGik66wCw&url=https://olpcau.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/
> servlet/mobile%23content/view/28016655&ved=0CDEQFjAG&usg=
> AFQjCNEtmb1dzOR4yP2EQxM57cUcTqcIiQ&sig2=MhGjEzmJAC9zdhdkWICe1A
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Gustavo
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] 
> https://www.google.com.uy/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=D3aLVaP8Norz-QGik66wCw&url=https://olpcau.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/servlet/mobile%23content/view/28016655&ved=0CDEQFjAG&usg=AFQjCNEtmb1dzOR4yP2EQxM57cUcTqcIiQ&sig2=MhGjEzmJAC9zdhdkWICe1A

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[Sugar-devel] VM for building an ARM image

2015-06-24 Thread Gustavo Duarte
Hey guys,

I woluld like to know what is the best emulator setup to get a VM for
builing like Martin describes here
https://www.google.com.uy/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=D3aLVaP8Norz-QGik66wCw&url=https://olpcau.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/servlet/mobile%23content/view/28016655&ved=0CDEQFjAG&usg=AFQjCNEtmb1dzOR4yP2EQxM57cUcTqcIiQ&sig2=MhGjEzmJAC9zdhdkWICe1A

Thanks in advance.
Gustavo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues

2015-06-24 Thread Walter Bender
Maybe you can give an update at the next meeting? Monday, 6 July.

thx.

-walter

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Sebastian Silva
 wrote:
>
> On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
>> IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that
>> can respond.
>
> Here's a status report:
>
> I asked the board to appoint me election committee.
>
> Then the board decided we needed to have "diversity" in the committee.
>
> Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
> traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.
>
> I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
> much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
> how many seats will be available and when to do the election.
>
> I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
> community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
> myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
> works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
> committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Open issues

2015-06-24 Thread Sebastian Silva

On 24/06/15 03:40, Sam P. wrote:
> IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that
> can respond.

Here's a status report:

I asked the board to appoint me election committee.

Then the board decided we needed to have "diversity" in the committee.

Now it's hard for Caryl, Samson and I to coincide, as one has been
traveling, the other has exams, and I am in the process of relocating.

I've setup a surveying system (a couple of months ago), that is pretty
much ready for voting. I am still waiting for the committee to decide
how many seats will be available and when to do the election.

I was hoping to use the opportunity to make a wider survey in the
community that could inform the direction for the Board. I will limit
myself to be the technical person and make sure the surveying system
works reliably, while I still wait for the other members of the
committee to make decisions and try the surveying system.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Open issues

2015-06-24 Thread Sam P.
Hello Dan,

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:44 AM Dan Tenason  wrote:

> It was impressive to see how quickly Mr. Innocenti updated the
> infrastructure once he was made aware that the servers had gone down. Some
> other problem areas have not been dealt with as quickly.
>

We're all volunteers doing this in our own time to the best of my
knowledge.  Any contributions and patches always welcome!


>
> Sugar Labs has now been operating for six months without an oversight
> board. The early June meeting did not meet quorum and the mid June meeting
> seemed to happen. After appointing a membership committee, no visible
> progress has been made towards holding an election. Is it time to drop the
> Oversight Board as an unnecessary burden?
>

I'm pretty sure that the oversight board members are still alive and that
they are making productive decisions.  According to the wiki page [1] they
had a meeting 2 months ago which they made decisions relating towards the
Sugar Deployment Survey, Turtle Art Days and GSOC2015.  From my knowledge
they are also in control of the spending and domains and those important
oversight things.

I do not see any reason to drop the oversight board.

IDK about the election but.  Hopefully somebody who knows about that can
respond.


>
> The claim of 'Sugar’s Activities are used every school day by nearly 3
> million children' is still present as a fact on the Sugar Labs web site.
> That validity fact is in question. There are several example countries were
> current usage is well below 100% which puts the assumption that ever XO
> ever shipped is used daily.
>

I was chatting with Walter about the new website a while ago and he said
that we should say we have 3 billion users across 270 languages or
something like that.  I think that was just a joke, but you get the point.
I'm sure that 3million is probs legit because of SoaS and sugarizer as well
as XOs.

In my **personal** opinion I do not think that the number on the website is
an important issue.  We have many more bugs and UX bugs that need fixing,
and even in the context of the website there are bigger issues.


>
> It would be appreciated if someone from Sugar Labs could clarify the
> status of these issues.
>

Hopefully I did!  I'm just an individual volunteer, so don't count my word.

Thanks,
Sam

[1]  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2015-05-04


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