[Sugar-devel] Development Team Meeting, 24th July 11AM UTC

2018-07-23 Thread James Cameron
Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on;

- Tuesday 24th July at 7am US/Eastern,
- Tuesday 24th July at 11am UTC,
- Tuesday 24th July at 4:30pm IST,
- Tuesday 24th July at 9pm Australia/Sydney,

Agenda to include

- what we have been working on,

#sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Sugarizer Rpi Image

2018-07-23 Thread James Cameron
Requiring a larger card, and consuming RAM with filesystem metadata,
increases the cost of ownership and decreases the number of learners
served.  So care should be taken to minimise the build size, download
size, and runtime size.

Each of your reasons for larger size contribute a different quantity.
Expanding the filesystem during first boot means you have random data
from the previously used blocks on the microSD card.  You also have
very large docker images and containers.

What is the use case for including docker images and containers?  Will
all users of the final image need these features, and will they use
them?  If they are used by only a few people, or will not be used, the
features might be removed to save space.

My understanding of your development history on this project is that
you were unable to find a way to complete docker installation from
within the rpi23-gen-image builder.  Is that still the case?

Has the hardlink utility been run to deduplicate the filesystem?

Has the unallocated space of the filesystem been erased to speed image
preparation?

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 09:52:07PM +0530, Aman Sharma wrote:
> Hello Bastien,
> 
> - Thank You , I am glad you like my work.
> 
> - The image has this enormous size because we have included docker images in
> this image itself. This would help the users to save bandwidth as they dont
> have  to download 600-800MB around docker images to setup containers. Also the
> image link I have provided in my earlier email is a fully setup rpi image
> (basically the backup of a once booted image). I have did this because my
> generated rpi image requires internet connectivity and 25-30mins after the
> first boot to set the things up. So provided a backup image like is helpful 
> for
> the community to test the image easily and  as soon as possible.
> 
> - Backup image is large because in this image docker containers are already
> created. Also we have sugarizer and sugarizer-server in the image.
> 
> - To flash the image , unzip the Sugarizer.gz and flash the extracted image
> using dd.(You will need atleast a 16GB sdcard)
> 
> - Documentation : [1]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Amanharitsh123
> - My Blog : [2]https://amansharmablogblog.wordpress.com/2018/05/18/
> sugarizer-rpi-image/
> - For a more detailed documentation on customizing the image is here : [3]
> https://github.com/drtyhlpr/rpi23-gen-image.
> 
> If you have any other queries / suggestions, feel free to reach me out.
> 
> Thank You 
> Aman Sharma
>   
> 
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Bastien <[4]b...@bzg.fr> wrote:
> 
> Hi Aman,
> 
> this is great work, thank you.
> 
> If I may ask, why the initial image is so big?  Can you detail a bit
> what takes so much place?
> 
> Also, is there a documented way to customize the image?
> 
> Thanks again!
>
> --
>  Bastien
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Amanharitsh123
> [2] https://amansharmablogblog.wordpress.com/2018/05/18/sugarizer-rpi-image/
> [3] https://github.com/drtyhlpr/rpi23-gen-image
> [4] mailto:b...@bzg.fr

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[Sugar-devel] sugar-toolkit help

2018-07-23 Thread Anmol Mishra
Is sugar-toolkit depreciated in Ubuntu bionic?, if no then I need the dep
list for this module.
https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sugar-toolkit&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Sugarizer Rpi Image

2018-07-23 Thread Aman Sharma
Hello Bastien,

- Thank You , I am glad you like my work.

- The image has this enormous size because we have included docker images
in this image itself. This would help the users to save bandwidth as they
dont have  to download 600-800MB around docker images to setup containers.
Also the image link I have provided in my earlier email is a fully setup
rpi image (basically the backup of a once booted image). I have did this
because my generated rpi image requires internet connectivity and 25-30mins
after the first boot to set the things up. So provided a backup image like
is helpful for the community to test the image easily and  as soon as
possible.

- Backup image is large because in this image docker containers are already
created. Also we have sugarizer and sugarizer-server in the image.

- To flash the image , unzip the Sugarizer.gz and flash the extracted image
using dd.(You will need atleast a 16GB sdcard)

- Documentation : https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Amanharitsh123
- My Blog :
https://amansharmablogblog.wordpress.com/2018/05/18/sugarizer-rpi-image/
- For a more detailed documentation on customizing the image is here :
https://github.com/drtyhlpr/rpi23-gen-image.

If you have any other queries / suggestions, feel free to reach me out.

Thank You
Aman Sharma



On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Bastien  wrote:

> Hi Aman,
>
> this is great work, thank you.
>
> If I may ask, why the initial image is so big?  Can you detail a bit
> what takes so much place?
>
> Also, is there a documented way to customize the image?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> --
>  Bastien
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Sugarizer Rpi Image

2018-07-23 Thread Bastien
Hi Aman,

this is great work, thank you.

If I may ask, why the initial image is so big?  Can you detail a bit
what takes so much place?

Also, is there a documented way to customize the image?

Thanks again!

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