Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding development of activities

2019-12-15 Thread James Cameron 
You must use a remote desktop protocol of some sort.  You might try
VNC, RDP, X11 over TCP, or some other software.

However, this makes it very hard for you to be sure what you observe
as a regression is a real problem for a native use of Sugar.  I really
cannot recommend it.

Sugar is intended to be a complete learning environment; running it in
any other way will be misleading.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:22:46AM +0530, Garvit Gupta wrote:
> More clarification
> 
> I meant that i am working on a remotr server and I build sugar on it. So how I
> should now proceed because I dont have the option of selecting sugar desktop
> here.
> 
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, 00:11 Garvit Gupta, <[1]garvit18...@iiitd.ac.in> wrote:
> 
> If we build sugar on a remote server of ubuntu 18.04 , then is it possible
> to continue development of activities?
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:garvit18...@iiitd.ac.in

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Issues in building sugar

2019-12-15 Thread James Cameron 
What document are you reading for building Sugar?

Please copy and paste the errors to mail next time; an attachment is
not necessary.

The errors show that build dependencies are missing.  I can't advise
how to resolve these without knowing what operating system you are
using.

I'm puzzled by your list of required directories, as it looks
familiar.  I used /usr/src/sugar-activities in Sugar Live Build, and
it hasn't been used anywhere else, to my knowledge.  Each of the
directories is a git clone, so you can find the source code repository
by typing "git remote -v".

If the directory is not present, you aren't running Sugar Live Build,
and that would also explain why you have no build dependencies.

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 10:41:46PM +0530, Garvit Gupta wrote:
> As given in the document for building sugar, while running the autogen.sh file
> the below error comes up (screenshot for the error is attached below). 
> 
> Also, I am not able to found these required directories:
> source code for fructose activities - use/src/sugar-activities/*
> sugar,sugar-toolkit-gtk3, sugar-datastore and sugar-artwork - /usr/src/
> sugar*.  


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Starting with the contributions to sugar labs

2019-12-15 Thread James Cameron 
Sugar Live Build is an ISO 9660 installer image that contains an
operating system with all source code ready to use.  Run it as a VM.
(You don't need to rebuild Sugar Live Build).

We have an obsolete and deprecated repository "sugar-build".  Don't
use it unless you have the time to set up the continuous integration
infrastructure it relied upon.  That infrastructure is gone.  Budget
about three weeks and an AWS instance.  ;-)

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 02:15:14PM +0530, Swathi Kasikala wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> How do I start with sugar-build and get to see the source code and also to
> preview the changes made on my system locally?
> 
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 05:15, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Swathi.  Can you be more specific?
> 
> The "desktop environment" is a term we borrow from Linux because
> that's the architectural layer that Sugar occupies on a system.  But
> it does not deliver a desktop user experience.
> 
> Sugar starts as an X11 session, and offers a main menu, called the
> Home View.  This is the Python jarabe module, from the repository
> sugarlabs/sugar.
> 
> Apps are called "activities", and are where most of the user
> experience occurs.
> 
> Opportunities for contributing to activities are far more numerous
> than for working with the Sugar session.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 08:43:46PM +0530, Swathi Kasikala wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I started with sugar labs now and found good resources regarding how to
> > create activities and stuff but I am actually interested to work with 
> the
> sugar
> > labs desktop environment. So I need help regarding how to start work and
> also
> > resources to start work with the desktop environment.
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 11:08, James Cameron <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Welcome Swathi.
> >
> >     Please see "How to get started as a Sugar Labs developer [v8]"
> >     [2][3]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/
> 057323.html
> >
> >     Please ask any specific questions on the mailing list, thanks.
> >
> >     On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:52:29AM +0530, Swathi Kasikala wrote:
> >     > Hey,
> >     >
> >     > This is Swathi Kasikala a sophomore from Amrita Vishwa 
> Vidyapeetam,
> >     Kerala
> >     > pursuing CSE. I am very interested and excited to be a part of the
> sugar
> >     labs
> >     > organization. As of it, I would like to start my contributions so
> can
> >     anyone
> >     > help me out regarding how to stat with things and proceed further.
> >     >
> >     > --
> >     > Regards,
> >     >
> >     > Swathi Kasikala.
> >     > [1]Blog || [2]GitHub || [3]LinkedIn
> >     > [4]Foss@Amrita
> >     > [5]Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> >     >
> >     > References:
> >     >
> >     > [1] [3][4]https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
> >     > [2] [4][5]https://github.com/swathi-0901
> >     > [3] [5][6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
> >     > [4] [6][7]https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
> >     > [5] [7][8]https://www.amrita.edu/
> >
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> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Swathi Kasikala.
> > [11]Blog || [12]GitHub || [13]LinkedIn
> > [14]Foss@Amrita
> > [15]Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:[12]qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] [13]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/
> 057323.html
> > [3] [14]https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
> > [4] [15]https://github.com/swathi-0901
> > [5] [16]https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
> > [6] [17]https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
> > [7] [18]https://www.amrita.edu/
> > [8] mailto:[19]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [9] [20]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [10] [21]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [11] [22]https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
> > [12] [23]https://github.com/swathi-0901
> > [13] [24]https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
> > [14] [25]https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
> > [15] [26]https://www.amrita.edu/
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> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] sugarizer not working in chrome (Lionel Laské)

2019-12-15 Thread James Cameron 
I agree with what Lionel said.  Also, I say;

"no sugar3 module found" suggests either;

(a) you haven't installed packaged Sugar on Ubuntu, or;

(b) you are using python3 instead of python2 to run setup.py, or;

(c) you've found a bug in the sugar web template.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 04:04:54PM +0530, happy singh wrote:
> It's working now.thanks.
> one more thing,
> i have installed packaged sugar in ubuntu.
> to make web activities do i need to log in to sugar and run terminal activity.
> and also when i run "python setup.py dev" it shows "no sugar3 module found" it
> means i can't package or run my web activity.
> thanks in advance.
> 
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 20:54, Lionel Laské <[1]lionel.la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Could you try to clean your browser cache and test it again?
> 
>  Lionel.
> 
> Le ven. 13 déc. 2019 à 05:25, <[2]sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org>
> a écrit :
> 
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 09:54:59 +0530
> From: happy singh <[3]happyc...@gmail.com>
> To: [4]lio...@olpc-france.org
> Cc: Sugar-dev Devel <[5]sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel]  sugarizer not working in chrome (Lionel
>         Laské)
> Message-ID:
>         <[6]
> caegdben8cwryocofsldw3w91u33uspcy9n3xpnxgovdhvst...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> my google-chrome-stable package is of 79.0.3945.79-1 version.
> and the following error is showing in console.
> and also when i type "npm start >/dev/null" , then the same blank
> screen
> get opens up.
> 
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 03:19, Lionel Laské <[7]lionel.la...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Hmmm, strange.
> > Could you tell us if you've got any message in the browser console?
> > Could you give us your Chrome version?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >            Lionel.
> >
> >
> > Le jeu. 12 déc. 2019 à 11:24, <[8]
> sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 15:54:04 +0530
> >> From: happy singh <[9]happyc...@gmail.com>
> >> To: [10]sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> Subject: [Sugar-devel] sugarizer not working in chrome
> >> Message-ID:
> >>         <
> >> [11]
> caegdbeof+rz4yfpjjvrtmczbze8nj79vxxxwo5u48ovzznb...@mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> hello, this is happy singh.
> >> i have cloned the sugarizer repo and try to run it in browser.
> >> it is running successfully. then i installed sucrose in my ubuntu.
> >> and now sugarizer is only running in firefox not in chrome.
> >> in chrome, it is showing "InitializeSandbox() called with multiple
> threads
> >> in process gpu-process." error. and the a blank chrome window is
> getting
> >> opened.
> >> i tried after uninstalling sucrose package, still it is showing 
> same
> >> error.
> >> -
> >>
> >[12]fo/sugar-devel
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:lionel.la...@gmail.com
> [2] mailto:sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [3] mailto:happyc...@gmail.com
> [4] mailto:lio...@olpc-france.org
> [5] mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [6] mailto:caegdben8cwryocofsldw3w91u33uspcy9n3xpnxgovdhvst...@mail.gmail.com
> [7] mailto:lionel.la...@gmail.com
> [8] mailto:sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [9] mailto:happyc...@gmail.com
> [10] mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [11] 
> mailto:caegdbeof%2brz4yfpjjvrtmczbze8nj79vxxxwo5u48ovzznb...@mail.gmail.com
> [12] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding development of activities

2019-12-15 Thread Garvit Gupta 
More clarification

I meant that i am working on a remotr server and I build sugar on it. So
how I should now proceed because I dont have the option of selecting sugar
desktop here.

On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, 00:11 Garvit Gupta,  wrote:

> If we build sugar on a remote server of ubuntu 18.04 , then is it possible
> to continue development of activities?
>
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[Sugar-devel] Regarding development of activities

2019-12-15 Thread Garvit Gupta 
If we build sugar on a remote server of ubuntu 18.04 , then is it possible
to continue development of activities?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding IRC channels

2019-12-15 Thread Alex Perez 

Garvit,

There are hundreds of free IRC clients out there, for every operating 
system under the sun. mIRC is not necessarily the best option. Here's 
one I know is pretty decent: https://www.adiirc.com/




Garvit Gupta 
December 15, 2019 at 8:59 AM
Can you suggest some web-based application through which we can 
communicate on IRC. I am currently using mirc but it is free only for 
30 days.




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Re: [Sugar-devel] Issues in building sugar

2019-12-15 Thread Alex Perez 
You probably need to install autoconf-dev or autoconf-devel. Googling 
the error would likely have led you to this conclusion.



Garvit Gupta 
December 15, 2019 at 9:11 AM
As given in the document for building sugar, while running the 
autogen.sh file the below error comes up (screenshot for the error is 
attached below).


Also, I am not able to found these required directories:
source code for fructose activities - use/src/sugar-activities/*
sugar,sugar-toolkit-gtk3, sugar-datastore and sugar-artwork - 
/usr/src/sugar*.



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[Sugar-devel] Issues in building sugar

2019-12-15 Thread Garvit Gupta 
As given in the document for building sugar, while running the autogen.sh
file the below error comes up (screenshot for the error is attached below).

Also, I am not able to found these required directories:
source code for fructose activities - use/src/sugar-activities/*
sugar,sugar-toolkit-gtk3, sugar-datastore and sugar-artwork -
/usr/src/sugar*.


Error screenshot.pdf
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[Sugar-devel] Regarding IRC channels

2019-12-15 Thread Garvit Gupta 
Can you suggest some web-based application through which we can communicate
on IRC. I am currently using mirc but it is free only for 30 days.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Starting with the contributions to sugar labs

2019-12-15 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam 
Hi Swathi,

The fructose set of activities source code can be found in
/usr/src/sugar-activities/* while the source code for sugar,
sugar-toolkit-gtk3, sugar-datastore and sugar-artwork can be found in
/usr/src/sugar*.

You can build sugar by running autogen.sh, make, make install - this
applies to sugar* repos - https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar#building



On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 9:44 AM Swathi Kasikala 
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> How do I start with sugar-build and get to see the source code and also to
> preview the changes made on my system locally?
>
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 05:15, James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Swathi.  Can you be more specific?
>>
>> The "desktop environment" is a term we borrow from Linux because
>> that's the architectural layer that Sugar occupies on a system.  But
>> it does not deliver a desktop user experience.
>>
>> Sugar starts as an X11 session, and offers a main menu, called the
>> Home View.  This is the Python jarabe module, from the repository
>> sugarlabs/sugar.
>>
>> Apps are called "activities", and are where most of the user
>> experience occurs.
>>
>> Opportunities for contributing to activities are far more numerous
>> than for working with the Sugar session.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 08:43:46PM +0530, Swathi Kasikala wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I started with sugar labs now and found good resources regarding how to
>> > create activities and stuff but I am actually interested to work with
>> the sugar
>> > labs desktop environment. So I need help regarding how to start work
>> and also
>> > resources to start work with the desktop environment.
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 11:08, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Welcome Swathi.
>> >
>> > Please see "How to get started as a Sugar Labs developer [v8]"
>> > [2]
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/057323.html
>> >
>> > Please ask any specific questions on the mailing list, thanks.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:52:29AM +0530, Swathi Kasikala wrote:
>> > > Hey,
>> > >
>> > > This is Swathi Kasikala a sophomore from Amrita Vishwa
>> Vidyapeetam,
>> > Kerala
>> > > pursuing CSE. I am very interested and excited to be a part of
>> the sugar
>> > labs
>> > > organization. As of it, I would like to start my contributions so
>> can
>> > anyone
>> > > help me out regarding how to stat with things and proceed further.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Swathi Kasikala.
>> > > [1]Blog || [2]GitHub || [3]LinkedIn
>> > > [4]Foss@Amrita
>> > > [5]Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
>> > >
>> > > References:
>> > >
>> > > [1] [3]https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
>> > > [2] [4]https://github.com/swathi-0901
>> > > [3] [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
>> > > [4] [6]https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
>> > > [5] [7]https://www.amrita.edu/
>> >
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>> >
>> > --
>> > James Cameron
>> > [10]http://quozl.netrek.org/
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Swathi Kasikala.
>> > [11]Blog || [12]GitHub || [13]LinkedIn
>> > [14]Foss@Amrita
>> > [15]Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
>> >
>> > References:
>> >
>> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
>> > [2]
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/057323.html
>> > [3] https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
>> > [4] https://github.com/swathi-0901
>> > [5] https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
>> > [6] https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
>> > [7] https://www.amrita.edu/
>> > [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> > [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>> > [10] http://quozl.netrek.org/
>> > [11] https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
>> > [12] https://github.com/swathi-0901
>> > [13] https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
>> > [14] https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
>> > [15] https://www.amrita.edu/
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Starting with the contributions to sugar labs

2019-12-15 Thread Swathi Kasikala 
Hey,

How do I start with sugar-build and get to see the source code and also to
preview the changes made on my system locally?

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 05:15, James Cameron  wrote:

> Thanks Swathi.  Can you be more specific?
>
> The "desktop environment" is a term we borrow from Linux because
> that's the architectural layer that Sugar occupies on a system.  But
> it does not deliver a desktop user experience.
>
> Sugar starts as an X11 session, and offers a main menu, called the
> Home View.  This is the Python jarabe module, from the repository
> sugarlabs/sugar.
>
> Apps are called "activities", and are where most of the user
> experience occurs.
>
> Opportunities for contributing to activities are far more numerous
> than for working with the Sugar session.
>
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 08:43:46PM +0530, Swathi Kasikala wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I started with sugar labs now and found good resources regarding how to
> > create activities and stuff but I am actually interested to work with
> the sugar
> > labs desktop environment. So I need help regarding how to start work and
> also
> > resources to start work with the desktop environment.
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 11:08, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome Swathi.
> >
> > Please see "How to get started as a Sugar Labs developer [v8]"
> > [2]
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/057323.html
> >
> > Please ask any specific questions on the mailing list, thanks.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:52:29AM +0530, Swathi Kasikala wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > This is Swathi Kasikala a sophomore from Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetam,
> > Kerala
> > > pursuing CSE. I am very interested and excited to be a part of the
> sugar
> > labs
> > > organization. As of it, I would like to start my contributions so
> can
> > anyone
> > > help me out regarding how to stat with things and proceed further.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Swathi Kasikala.
> > > [1]Blog || [2]GitHub || [3]LinkedIn
> > > [4]Foss@Amrita
> > > [5]Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] [3]https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
> > > [2] [4]https://github.com/swathi-0901
> > > [3] [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
> > > [4] [6]https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
> > > [5] [7]https://www.amrita.edu/
> >
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> >
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> > Regards,
> >
> > Swathi Kasikala.
> > [11]Blog || [12]GitHub || [13]LinkedIn
> > [14]Foss@Amrita
> > [15]Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [2]
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/057323.html
> > [3] https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
> > [4] https://github.com/swathi-0901
> > [5] https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
> > [6] https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
> > [7] https://www.amrita.edu/
> > [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [10] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [11] https://wordpress.com/view/missflash54.wordpress.com
> > [12] https://github.com/swathi-0901
> > [13] https://www.linkedin.com/in/swathi-kasikala-2938a9179/
> > [14] https://amfoss.in/accounts/222/
> > [15] https://www.amrita.edu/
>
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