Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS 32 is silent?

2020-04-27 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:20:57AM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:18 PM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:25:28PM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote:
> > I've opened [2]https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4998 and attached the
> > zipped logs from some test sessions.
> 
> Thanks.  I've reviewed the logs.  They show successful playback by
> GStreamer into a sound sink of some sort, but no indication as to why
> you did not hear anything.
> 
> There's no feedback loop in the Sugar sound subsystem; there's no way
> to tell in software if a sound sink can be heard by a human.
> 
> Was your test in a virtual machine or physical hardware?
> 
> Testing is on physical hardware.  Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso was
> installed
> with livecd-iso-to-disk to a USB disk drive.

Okay, thanks.  I've never done that.

> I also tested a pristine image by booting the .iso file directly.  Logs are
> attached to the
> referenced bug report.
> 
> Was the Frame F6 used to check the speaker icon is present, not white,
> and set to an appropriate level?
> 
> Yes, yes, and yes.

Thanks.  I suggest diagnosing further using alsamixer, speaker-test
and GStreamer in Terminal, thus excluding Sugar entirely.  I've no
further suggestions.

> Thanks for your interest, efforts, & applied experience!
> 
>        --Fred

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS 32 is silent?

2020-04-27 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:25:28PM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote:
> I've opened https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4998 and attached the
> zipped logs from some test sessions.

Thanks.  I've reviewed the logs.  They show successful playback by
GStreamer into a sound sink of some sort, but no indication as to why
you did not hear anything.

There's no feedback loop in the Sugar sound subsystem; there's no way
to tell in software if a sound sink can be heard by a human.

Was your test in a virtual machine or physical hardware?

Was the Frame F6 used to check the speaker icon is present, not white,
and set to an appropriate level?

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James Cameron
http://quozl.netrek.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Fedora 32 Final is GO, SoaS Release Candidate ISO available immediately

2020-04-27 Thread Alex Perez

Frederick,

Chances are, with the sound problem, that this is a system/Fedora 
specific problem, and has nothing to do with Sugar. You can test this 
hypothesis by downloading a different spin of RC1.6, for example the 
LXDE Live ISO, and test sound there. 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/32_RC-1.6/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-LXDE-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso



Frederick Grose 
April 27, 2020 at 11:50 AM
With Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso I'm hearing no sound.
And see no log messages.

Is this a common problem?



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Alex Perez 
April 23, 2020 at 11:21 AM
The Fedora release team met today and approved the release of Fedora 
32, which is scheduled for this coming Tuesday, April 28th.


The 1.6 Release Candidate ISO for the Fedora 32 SoaS (Sugar on a 
Stick) LiveCD/ISO is downloadable from 
https://bit.ly/Fedora-32-RC-SoaS-LiveISO-x86_64

It is one gigabyte in size.

This is a purely Python 3 based Sugar environment, and Python 2 
activities will not run here at all. This is the first version of 
Sugar on a Stick to drop Python 2 completely, and a few of the bundled 
activities which have yet to be ported to Python 3 were removed from 
this release, and will re-appear at which point the porting and 
testing of them is complete.


Special thanks to Peter Robinson and Ibiam Chihurumnaya for making the 
Sugar-specific bits of this spin possible.



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