Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS username & password

2020-11-03 Thread James Cameron
Given this problem, I don't know how it happened that Sugar Labs is
recommending F33.  Should the Wiki page edits be reverted?  Or is it
only specific architectures affected?

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_on_a_Stick/Downloads=5913=103778=103653
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_on_a_Stick/Download/hashes=17138=103776=103385

On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 03:49:16AM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> Yes it's a bug in F33 SOAS and it's been looked at, you can download F32 SOAS
> here 
> [1]https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/32/Spins/x86_64/
> iso/Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
> 
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 3:30 AM Walter Bender <[2]walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There is no default username/password, you should have been prompted
> to create one on install.How did you build it/ install it?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:40 AM Angelo Danio <[3]angelo.da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear,
> > Started SoaS I landed on those screen asking user name and password and
> I’m not able to find on website.
> > May you help me?
> > Angelo
> 
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> References:
> 
> [1] 
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/32/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
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> [6] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

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Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS username & password

2020-11-03 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
Yes it's a bug in F33 SOAS and it's been looked at, you can download F32
SOAS here
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/32/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 3:30 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> There is no default username/password, you should have been prompted
> to create one on install.How did you build it/ install it?
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:40 AM Angelo Danio 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear,
> > Started SoaS I landed on those screen asking user name and password and
> I’m not able to find on website.
> > May you help me?
> > Angelo
>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS username & password

2020-11-03 Thread Walter Bender
There is no default username/password, you should have been prompted
to create one on install.How did you build it/ install it?

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:40 AM Angelo Danio  wrote:
>
> Dear,
> Started SoaS I landed on those screen asking user name and password and I’m 
> not able to find on website.
> May you help me?
> Angelo



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reminder: SLOBs Meeting Today 20:00 UTC

2020-11-03 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
Thanks Devin; some comments.

"Composition and Meetings. The Corporation shall have an Advisory Board
whose members shall be appointed by corporate sponsors who pay annual fee
to be determined by the Board of Directors. The Advisory Board may meet at
any time and place its members choose."

I thought that the advisory board wasn't reserved for any sponsor.




On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 10:19 PM  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> This is the latest bylaws which impacts all members and board of
> directors.
>
> As everyone has had sufficient time to review the last draft and this is
> only slightly modified, I plan to give the lawyer the green light
> tomorrow morning.
>
> Thank you all!
>
> Best,
> Devin
>
> On 2020-10-28 14:53, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:
> > Attached is current draft. It was drafted from the SugarLabs Wiki by
> > Aaron Williamson, Sugar Labs Inc.'s lawyer. (https://www.akwlc.com/)
> >
> > (sending this separately as sometimes mailing lists send attachments
> > later)
> >
> > On 2020-10-28 14:52, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> If you would like to look over a draft of the bylaws for a future
> >> Sugarlabs Inc. and can make it at 20:00 UTC today (SLOB's usual time,
> >> every other Weds), please reply.
> >>
> >> Devin
> >>
> >> On 2020-10-14 10:45, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Just a friendly reminder that today is the next SLOBs Meeting.
> >>>
> >>> The proposed agenda is
> >>>
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2020-10-14
> >>>
> >>> As always, if any community members would like to join and do not
> >>> already know the link for the meeting, please reply to
> >>> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org and request the link.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Devin
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

2020-11-03 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 02:16:27PM +0100, Martin Guy wrote:
> I notice that Music Blocks isn't in the Trisquel Etiona set, and it
> seems a prime candidate for inclusion.

Music Blocks doesn't run as a Sugar activity yet.  Walter would be
best person to ask about that.

> Of the other activities, I couldn't make Develop do anything useful,
> but I couldn't with Trisquel Live Sugar Toast either, so I assume
> it's just me.

No, I saw that when building OLPC OS.  A fix was pushed to the master
branch of the upstream repository, and my guess is you cloned the
Sugar Labs fork instead.  I've updated the Sugar Labs master branch.

> > I see that you've done it manually and I'd love to know what you did.
> 
> Nothing special. Just searching each activity on
> github.com/sugarlabs and filling in the fields

As you can see, searching for activities using repositories on
github.com/sugarlabs is not (and never has been) a reliable process.

Also, some repositories contain more than one activity (TamTam,
Wikipedia), some contain a branch per activity (TurtleArt), and some
repositories require building before release (TamTam, Wikipedia, Help,
Paint).

Our release process for activities is generally described here;
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/contributing.md#checklist---maintainer

It may be better to use activity bundles.  It's what they are for.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Reminder: SLOBs Meeting Today 20:00 UTC

2020-11-03 Thread devin

Hi All,

This is the latest bylaws which impacts all members and board of 
directors.


As everyone has had sufficient time to review the last draft and this is 
only slightly modified, I plan to give the lawyer the green light 
tomorrow morning.


Thank you all!

Best,
Devin

On 2020-10-28 14:53, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:

Attached is current draft. It was drafted from the SugarLabs Wiki by
Aaron Williamson, Sugar Labs Inc.'s lawyer. (https://www.akwlc.com/)

(sending this separately as sometimes mailing lists send attachments 
later)


On 2020-10-28 14:52, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:

Hi All,

If you would like to look over a draft of the bylaws for a future
Sugarlabs Inc. and can make it at 20:00 UTC today (SLOB's usual time,
every other Weds), please reply.

Devin

On 2020-10-14 10:45, devin@ulibarri.website wrote:

Hi All,

Just a friendly reminder that today is the next SLOBs Meeting.

The proposed agenda is
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2020-10-14

As always, if any community members would like to join and do not
already know the link for the meeting, please reply to
sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org and request the link.

Best,
Devin


Sugar Labs Bylaws 2020-11-03 v2.docx
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

2020-11-03 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
Music Blocks was made to run from a browser and it currently fails to start
in sugar, there's an open issue for it
https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/issues/2579.

When you say "Couldn't make Develop do anything useful" I'm guessing you
mean you couldn't use the activity, the activity helps you create your own
activity or edit existing ones.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 2:16 PM Martin Guy  wrote:

> On 03/11/2020, Chihurumnaya Ibiam  wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 11:20 AM Martin Guy 
> wrote:
> >> > the included activities are:
> >> >
> >> > abacus
> >> > analyzejournal
> >> > browse
> >> > calculate
> >> > ...
> >>
> >> I've been looking at what activities to include in a Sugar Live
> >> Everything i386 release, but it looks like you've made my task easier.
> >> Shall I call it Sugar Live Trisqel in honour of the Activity selection
> >> or do you think that would confuse things?
> >
> > I think it can be called Trisquel Sugar TOAST live, just to keep with the
> > trisquel convention.
>
> OK. I've been vacillating between sugar-live-trisquel and
> sugar-live-etiona (lack of imagination!) so thanks for that. PS I love
> trisqeul as a distro - didn't know about it.
>
> I notice that Music Blocks isn't in the Trisquel Etiona set, and it
> seems a prime candidate for inclusion. Of the other activities, I
> couldn't make Develop do anything useful, but I couldn't with Trisquel
> Live Sugar Toast either, so I assume it's just me.
>
> > I see that you've done it manually and I'd love to know what you did.
>
> Nothing special. Just searching each activity on github.com/sugarlabs
> and filling in the fields
>
> M
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

2020-11-03 Thread Martin Guy
On 03/11/2020, Chihurumnaya Ibiam  wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 11:20 AM Martin Guy  wrote:
>> > the included activities are:
>> >
>> > abacus
>> > analyzejournal
>> > browse
>> > calculate
>> > ...
>>
>> I've been looking at what activities to include in a Sugar Live
>> Everything i386 release, but it looks like you've made my task easier.
>> Shall I call it Sugar Live Trisqel in honour of the Activity selection
>> or do you think that would confuse things?
>
> I think it can be called Trisquel Sugar TOAST live, just to keep with the
> trisquel convention.

OK. I've been vacillating between sugar-live-trisquel and
sugar-live-etiona (lack of imagination!) so thanks for that. PS I love
trisqeul as a distro - didn't know about it.

I notice that Music Blocks isn't in the Trisquel Etiona set, and it
seems a prime candidate for inclusion. Of the other activities, I
couldn't make Develop do anything useful, but I couldn't with Trisquel
Live Sugar Toast either, so I assume it's just me.

> I see that you've done it manually and I'd love to know what you did.

Nothing special. Just searching each activity on github.com/sugarlabs
and filling in the fields

M
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

2020-11-03 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 11:20 AM Martin Guy  wrote:

> > the included activities are:
> >
> > abacus
> > analyzejournal
> > browse
> > calculate
> > ...
>
> I've been looking at what activities to include in a Sugar Live
> Everything i386 release, but it looks like you've made my task easier.
> Shall I call it Sugar Live Trisqel in honour of the Activity selection
> or do you think that would confuse things?
>

I think it can be called Trisquel Sugar TOAST live, just to keep with the
trisquel convention.


>
> Also, if you're OK with me lifting your Acvivity selection, I see I
> need to include lines like
>
>   clone https://github.com/sugarlabs/somethingSomething.activity
>
> in Sugar Live Build's auto/config file, where "something" is usually
> "something-activity" but not all actiivies follow this convention, so
> do you have to hand a list of the github-name activity-name pairs for
> the Trisqel list, to save me having to pore over github/sugarlabs'
> many pages of activities by hand?
>

The Sugar Live Build followed the convention of the creator and most of the
activities
are the fructose set, you can also follow the same convention as it's
straightforward and easy.
I see that you've done it manually and I'd love to know what you did.


> I see that sugarlabs-calculator (named in SLB' sucrose set) on github
> redirects to calculator-activity (I guess it was renamed at some
> point). If all activities were to do this (e.g. pippy-activity->Pippy)
> it would be easier to reduce package choices to a succint list.
>

Yeah I'm guessing the redirect is a github convention as the repo the
activity was forked from was named
sugarlabs-calculate but the forked repo is calculate-activity.


> M
>
> Thanks again
>
> M
>


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

2020-11-03 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
Yes the metadistro still provides i386.

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 9:06 AM Martin Guy  wrote:

> Does the metadistro it's based on still provide i386?
> If so, making a 32-bit image should be a doddle. If not...
>
>M
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