Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Fedora has been branched, SoaS LiveUSB environment is up for testing
James, James Cameron wrote on 2/10/21 1:45 PM: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:48:30PM -0800, Alex Perez wrote: >> Folks, >> >> The Fedora 34 branch has happened, and there's a nightly build of SoaS, >> based on Fedora 0.118, which I'd like to call on folks to test. There's >> one known big bug, which will be fixed in the next couple of days, which >> is that the Language control panel doesn't open/crashes, preventing you >> from changing languages from the default English. >> >> All activities except FotoToon should start and work properly. > So my release of v26 didn't help? It just hasn't been updated on the Fedora package side, yet. That will happen in a day or two. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs
Yes. Please make a list of content if none is available and content that should be demystified? On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:07:45AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote: > Anyone can correct me if I am wrong. But the point of Season of Docs is > > 1. Generate content if none is available. > 2. Very important is looking at the existing content and demystify it to the > nearest minimum (Sugar Labs needs this) > > The idea for a technical writer is to simplify and transfer information > between > Sugar Labs and anyone consuming the content. > > To you, the content may look fine because you may not be the target, or in > this > case, you are an author of some of the tools generated. > > Having great doc is a demanding requirement for onboarding in open source, and > unfortunately, I can't say Sugar Labs has one(simplifications). > > Also a completely different from GSoC. > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:59 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > My first question was the most important. > > I can't think of any documentation Sugar Labs needs that we haven't > already got in some form or other across our sprawling web presence. > > I recommend against proceeding unless some documentation is needed. > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote: > > Hello James, > > > > I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program this > time > > around. > > > > Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, or be > one of > > the admins. > > > > I am working on a system in place already. > > > > Regards > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org> > wrote: > > > > Indeed. So the question becomes; > > > > - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for Sugarizer, Music > > Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal, > > > > - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer? > > > > - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs? > > > > [2][3]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote: > > > It is being organized differently this year; we have to apply for > a > grant > > and > > > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer we > want > to > > work > > > with, at least that is how I understood it. > > > > > > [1][3][4]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html? > m=1 > > > > > > [2][4][5]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > tech-writer-guide > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3][5][6] > 2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part in > GSoD. > > > > > > Regards > > > Saumya Mishra > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron <[4][6][7] > qu...@laptop.org > > > wrote: > > > > > > It's back. Can we win a slot this year? Ideas welcome. > > > > > > [5][7][8]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > [6][8][9]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > > > -- > > > James Cameron > > > [7][9][10]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > ___ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > [8][10][11]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [9][11][12]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > ___ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > [10][12][13]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [11][13][14]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] [14][15]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m= > 1 > > > [2] [15][16]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > > tech-writer-guide > > > [3] mailto:[16][17]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > [4] mailto:[17][18]qu...@laptop.org > > > [5] [18][19]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > [6] [19][20]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > [7]
Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs
Anyone can correct me if I am wrong. But the point of Season of Docs is 1. Generate content if none is available. 2. Very important is looking at the existing content and demystify it to the nearest minimum (Sugar Labs needs this) The idea for a technical writer is to simplify and transfer information between Sugar Labs and anyone consuming the content. To you, the content may look fine because you may not be the target, or in this case, you are an author of some of the tools generated. Having great doc is a demanding requirement for onboarding in open source, and unfortunately, I can't say Sugar Labs has one(simplifications). Also a completely different from GSoC. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:59 AM James Cameron wrote: > My first question was the most important. > > I can't think of any documentation Sugar Labs needs that we haven't > already got in some form or other across our sprawling web presence. > > I recommend against proceeding unless some documentation is needed. > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote: > > Hello James, > > > > I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program this > time > > around. > > > > Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, or be > one of > > the admins. > > > > I am working on a system in place already. > > > > Regards > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > Indeed. So the question becomes; > > > > - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for Sugarizer, Music > > Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal, > > > > - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer? > > > > - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs? > > > > [2]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote: > > > It is being organized differently this year; we have to apply for > a grant > > and > > > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer we > want to > > work > > > with, at least that is how I understood it. > > > > > > [1][3]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > > > > > [2][4] > https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3][5] > 2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part in > GSoD. > > > > > > Regards > > > Saumya Mishra > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron <[4][6] > qu...@laptop.org > > > wrote: > > > > > > It's back. Can we win a slot this year? Ideas welcome. > > > > > > [5][7]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > [6][8]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > > > -- > > > James Cameron > > > [7][9]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > ___ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > [8][10]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [9][11]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > ___ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > [10][12]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [11][13]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] [14]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > > [2] [15]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > > tech-writer-guide > > > [3] mailto:[16]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > [4] mailto:[17]qu...@laptop.org > > > [5] [18]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > [6] [19]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > [7] [20]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > [8] mailto:[21]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [9] [22]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > [10] mailto:[23]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [11] [24]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > [25]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > [26]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [27]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > References: > > > > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [2] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > [3] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > >
Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs
My first question was the most important. I can't think of any documentation Sugar Labs needs that we haven't already got in some form or other across our sprawling web presence. I recommend against proceeding unless some documentation is needed. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote: > Hello James, > > I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program this time > around. > > Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, or be one of > the admins. > > I am working on a system in place already. > > Regards > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > Indeed. So the question becomes; > > - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for Sugarizer, Music > Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal, > > - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer? > > - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs? > > [2]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote: > > It is being organised differently this year, we have to apply for a > grant > and > > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer we want to > work > > with, at least that is how I understood it. > > > > [1][3]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > > > > [2][4]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3][5]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> > wrote: > > > > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part in GSoD. > > > > Regards > > Saumya Mishra > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron > <[4][6]qu...@laptop.org > > wrote: > > > > It's back. Can we win a slot this year? Ideas welcome. > > > > [5][7]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > [6][8]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > [7][9]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > [8][10]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [9][11]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > [10][12]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [11][13]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > References: > > > > [1] [14]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > [2] [15]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > tech-writer-guide > > [3] mailto:[16]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > [4] mailto:[17]qu...@laptop.org > > [5] [18]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > [6] [19]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > [7] [20]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [8] mailto:[21]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [9] [22]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [10] mailto:[23]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [11] [24]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- > James Cameron > [25]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > [26]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > [27]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > References: > > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > [2] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > [3] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > [4] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > [5] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > [6] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > [7] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > [8] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > [9] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > [10] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > [11] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > [12] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > [13] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > [14] > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > [15] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > [16] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > [17] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > [18] > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > [19] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > [20]
Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs
Hello James, I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program this time around. Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, or be one of the admins. I am working on a system in place already. Regards On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron wrote: > Indeed. So the question becomes; > > - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for Sugarizer, Music > Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal, > > - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer? > > - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs? > > https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote: > > It is being organised differently this year, we have to apply for a > grant and > > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer we want to > work > > with, at least that is how I understood it. > > > > [1]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > > > [2]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> > wrote: > > > > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part in GSoD. > > > > Regards > > Saumya Mishra > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron <[4]qu...@laptop.org> > wrote: > > > > It's back. Can we win a slot this year? Ideas welcome. > > > > [5]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > [6]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > [7]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > [8]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [9]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > [10]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [11]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > References: > > > > [1] > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > [2] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > [3] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > [4] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [5] > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > [6] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > [7] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [10] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [11] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- > James Cameron > https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs
Indeed. So the question becomes; - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for Sugarizer, Music Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal, - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer? - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs? https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote: > It is being organised differently this year, we have to apply for a grant and > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer we want to work > with, at least that is how I understood it. > > [1]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > [2]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> wrote: > > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part in GSoD. > > Regards > Saumya Mishra > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron <[4]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > It's back. Can we win a slot this year? Ideas welcome. > > [5]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > [6]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > -- > James Cameron > [7]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > [8]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > [9]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > [10]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > [11]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > References: > > [1] > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > [2] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > [3] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > [4] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > [5] > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > [6] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > [7] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > [10] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > [11] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- James Cameron https://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
