Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Pootle problem with single-character messages
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > There is a localization component in Trac. Or going upstream; Pootle list http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/developers/mailing_lists and Bugzilla http://bugs.locamotion.org/ /Korakurider > > -walter > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Bert Freudenberg > wrote: >> Forwarding this to sugar-devel. Where should Pootle problems be reported? >> >> - Bert - >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Bert Freudenberg >>> Date: 28. September 2010 20:08:29 MESZ >>> To: OLPC Localization >>> Subject: Pootle problem with single-character messages >>> >>> >>> On 21.09.2010, at 08:07, Markus Schlager wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Subbu, >>>> >>>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, K. K. Subramaniam wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday 21 Sep 2010 12:40:33 am Markus Schlager wrote: >>>>>> Whenever I scan the project files for Etoys and update from the >>>>>> templates, >>>>>> pootle says the following strings are untranslated and need attention: >>>>>> Etoys-Tiles.po: >>>>>> #194: x >>>>>> #195: y >>>>> These are variables denoting X-Y co-ordinates and may not need >>>>> translation in >>>>> most language cultures. >>>>> >>>>>> Etoys.po: >>>>>> # 86: B >>>>>> # 91: I >>>>>> # 98: N >>>>>> # 99: n >>>>>> #103: S >>>>>> #107: U >>>>>> MorphicExtras.po: >>>>>> #589: X >>>>> These are iconic letters used like keycaps. They stand for Bold, Italic, >>>>> Normal, >>>> >>>>> Number (as in repeat n times), >>>> >>>> No, 'n' means 'narrow' (less kerning) >>>> >>>>> Strike, Underline and Close (as in >>>>> delete). There should also be a 'V' and 'O' which are used for 'viewer >>>>> menu' >>>>> and 'close window' icons. They are not 'text' in the proper sense. >>>> >>>> I knew what thes strings mean. I'm just wondering why they are behaving >>>> differently on pootle. Any time I update from the templates the >>>> translations of these strings vanish. How come this happens? I'd call it a >>>> bug. >>> >>> I see the same. Can someone fix it? >>> >>> - Bert - >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] updating pootle and creating branches
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:43, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:07, Chris Leonard
>>> wrote:
>>>> Bernie,
>>>>
>>>> I will continue to to the work I do as a Pootle admin (as time allows), but
>>>> as we've discussed before, we need someone from the Systems group to handle
>>>> back-end things like project versioning and git connections. I do what I
>>>> can via the Pootle administrative interface, but that is limited to adding
>>>> new language admins, new language set up, adding existing projects to new
>>>> languages, and the like.
>>>
>>> That's great, I'm now working on fixing pushing to git and then will
>>> do branches. Will try to write down processes for the next admin.
>>>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> Apologies for disappearing. Here are the details you may require:
>> Documentation of the helper scripts:
>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/pootle-helpers/repos/mainline/blobs/master/README
>> Updater stuff (look at the cronjobs for Pootle - they ensure the VCS
>> stuff remain in sync).
>> SSH keys (/var/lib/pootle/.ssh)
>> Let me know if you need any more help.
>
> We're getting close, now I'm receiving this error when trying to merge
> the new .pot into the Etoys .po:
>
> An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience.
>
> Error accessing
> /var/lib/pootle/translations/etoys_new/templates/DrGeoII-Etoys.pot,
> Filesystem sent error: No such file or directory
>
> Any ideas how to fix it?
Thanks for taking care of this.
POTs organization had been changed; The phrases in old
DrGeoII-Etoys.pot were merged into DrGeoII-core.pot and we don't use
DrGeoII-Etoys.pot anymore. (revision #483 of
http://etoys.squeak.org/svn/trunk/po/templates)
The proper way to resolve this would be for each lang merge
DrGeoII-Etoys.po into DrGeoII-core.po before removing
DrGeoII-Etoys.{po pot}. But I think if any, very few phrases were
translated in the PO.
/Korakurider (from Etoys team)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tomeu
>
>> If it makes sense - I can participate in a Skype/IRC meeting to guide
>> you through the process.
>> -sdg-
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
>>>
>>>> cj;
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Bernie Innocenti
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/28/10 10:12, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>>> > Can we put together in this thread all the knowledge we have available
>>>>> > about how to do that? Links to the wiki are best, but anything will be
>>>>> > useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've started a wiki page to collect information on the translation
>>>>> service:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate
>>>>>
>>>>> In the event we can't get back in touch with Sayamindu, is there any
>>>>> volunteer who would like to step forward to help maintaining Pootle?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] (Please read) Re: Proposed Trac - > Launchpad migration
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Paul Fox wrote: > luke wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:06, Paul Fox wrote: > > > > > so, if i understand this, the text of the bugs will still contain lots > of > > > bug numbers that link correctly, but read incorrectly. > > > > > > Well, Launchpad will redirect to the proper number. > > > > > > > I guess there's no way to simply edit the bug text during the import, so > as > > > to make the > > > references correct w/o redirection tricks? > > > > > > I'm not really sure what you mean. Are you referring to the references to > > other bugs inside the bugs themselves? > > yes. > > > Possibly, although it would be easy > > to mess up. > > i've recently found myself (on dev.laptop.org) referencing other > bug numbers from within the comment text: e.g., "I wonder if > this bug is related to bug #1234?". if the old bug #1234 is the > new bug #4321, then presumably your fixes would cause the "#1234" > to link to the new bug system's "#4321" bug, if i click on it, > but it will continue to _say_ "1234. this is what i think might > be very confusing. Also please think about bunch of links in Wiki pages (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/0.86.1_Notes for an instance). We need to retain all of the links to historical ticket to support existing users. I think just correct redirection is insufficient, reading bug number correctly is important as documentation purpose. How would you identify some ticket in IRC session, etc... /Korakurider > > paul > =- > paul fox, p...@laptop.org > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] production aslo update
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:10 AM, David Farning wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 15:59, David Farning wrote: >>> No new commits for the production instance of aslo. >>> >>> We will be running some clean.sh and build.sh scripts to update the >>> .mo (translation) files. > > Update complete. > >>> Yep, that is right, Sayamindu Dasgupta should be able to hook aslo to >>> pootle and make them sing. How cool is that? >> >> Very! Is upstream ready to accept our translations? > > Upstream is taking a wait and see approach. If the quality of our > translations is good, I see no problem with them being accepted. Let me ask the context about "upstream accept our translation (of aslo)" I am reviewing Japanese message MO for aslo. It contains tons of "addon" (in Japanese translation). I think you want to replace all of them with "activity", as many of you guys insisted "activities" domain over "addons" for branding of SL, right? And top page of the site is showing message like this (in Japanese, msgid "addons_home_header_details") Note: Many of addons registered to this site have not been translated to Japanese yet. Listing of "translated Addins" is available at Mozilla Japan site (http://addons.mozilla.jp/). So apparently we need to customize translations for our purpose. Am I missing something? /Korakurider > > david >> Regards, >> >> Tomeu >> > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Etoys] Etoys - service move?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > On 18.02.2009, at 12:02, Simon Schampijer wrote: > >> Hi Bert, >> >> did you guys talked/decided about moving the git repo and trac >> infrastructure to Sugar Labs services already? > > We did, but progress is a bit slow. Is there any reason to hurry? I don't think we need to be in hurry... But etoys ticket has been submitted to SL's trac already, so we should do something about this asap. It seems right thing to me to have all etoys ticket in olpc trac until we are really ready to move. > > IMHO it would be best take this as an opportunity to untangle the > various bits and pieces - the Squeak virtual machine (squeakvm.org), > the Etoys core (squeakland.org), the Sugar activity (sugarlabs.org) ... what would be needed specifically, do you think? Actually I have been comfortable with current settings :-) > > - Bert - > > > ___ > Etoys mailing list > et...@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] What should we call it? Addons of Activities
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:48 AM, David Farning wrote: > There has been some talk of what the final name for aslo should be. > > addons.sugarlabs.org > or > activities.sugarlabs.org > > Which do you prefer? I like activities.sl.o better but it means more > work for me to change it. So, for me, it is a wash. Why do we have to choose one from only these? Both options have good justification, so I think having a couple of DNS entry and redirect to one to another would be great. I don't care if you are asking which to use for primary. /Korakurider > > david > > (Contributors with marketing or brand development can have two votes) > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] [Announce] String freeze in effect
Hi. While string freeze was declared, some POT has not been updated on Pootle yet. For examples, we can't translate "About my computer" or "logout" for sugar. Could you take a look into this? (Sayamindu, are you still the guy to ask about this?) I think owners of module who moved source repo to sugarlabs might want to check if the integration to pootle is working now. Thanks, /Korakurider On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:07 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hello, > > As some of you may have already noticed, string freeze for the > upcoming release of Sugar 0.84 is now in effect. String freeze means > that any changes/additions made to the strings of the modules Glucose > or Fructose needs approval from the localization mailing list. This > however _does not_ mean that translators cannot submit their > translations. On the contrary, this marks the beginning of the period > when translators can be most active in the Glucose and Fructose > projects, since the potential number of changes in the strings from > now on is going to be minimal. Feel free to ask if there are any > doubts/questions. > Thank you, and happy translating :-) > Sayamindu > > > -- > Sayamindu Dasgupta > [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] > ___ > Localization mailing list > localizat...@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
