Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
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Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
@Gary, thanks for the idea. It would really be a good addition to wordroupz. You are welcome to design the icon as you last mentioned, showing the multilingual aspect of wordgroupz. And we start working on this feature. I'll need help from people speaking different languages for this purpose. Thanks, Regards, rtnpro http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/-Original Message- From: Gary Martin Sent: 21/10/2010, 7:28 pm To: Ratnadeep Debnath Cc: Tim McNamara; Sugar Devel; Walter Bender Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar On 20 Oct 2010, at 10:30, Ratnadeep Debnath wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: I think Collect would be an excellent name for an Activity. It's a verb with a single word. I don't think you should worry about being too accurate with the name, because 1) it inhibits growing the application later, 2) we want to encourage discovery - telling too much doesn't allow learners to explore, 3) it enables other locations to translate the Activity into their own language and 4) consistency with other Activities makes the whole of Sugar's brand stronger. ok If you can, remove all words from the icon. Translating strings within SVG files seems like an unnecessary hassle. @Gary Can you think of an icon that doesn't contain any word, but also represent the purpose of wordgroupz. Will keep trying... also means I don't have to worry about as much what you finally name your activity :-) FWIW: Collect Words is my favourite suggestion. Quick question: Does wordgroupz allow you to collect words in different languages, say if I wanted to group the Arabic, Spanish, and English word for Hello together (as a way of learning language vocabulary)? If it can support that use, I could possibly use an icon with a single word in several different languages. --Gary Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: So, 100% behind the wordgroupz activity name? Just wanted to double check before re-doing the icon again. Since the original name of the application is wordgroupz, I think that the icon should reflect that. More importantly, wordgroupz is an application for collecting words and studying them. So I am thinking of some activity names like : * collect words * build your vocabulary Which one sounds good? Will it be better to have the name wordgroupz in the icon or the activity name in the icon? Since wordgroupz is not a correct word, some one suggested that the name of a vocabulary application should not be incorrect. Anyway, we are not keeping the activity name as wordgroupz. Please choose the better one : wordgroupz or activity name Thanks , Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: I think Collect would be an excellent name for an Activity. It's a verb with a single word. I don't think you should worry about being too accurate with the name, because 1) it inhibits growing the application later, 2) we want to encourage discovery - telling too much doesn't allow learners to explore, 3) it enables other locations to translate the Activity into their own language and 4) consistency with other Activities makes the whole of Sugar's brand stronger. ok If you can, remove all words from the icon. Translating strings within SVG files seems like an unnecessary hassle. @Gary Can you think of an icon that doesn't contain any word, but also represent the purpose of wordgroupz. Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
Thanks Gary. The icons are really good. The original wordgroupz icon was taken from openclipart.com. Instead of the random words, it would be very nice if you could put the word wordgroupz in a similar fashion. I would like to update the icon for wordgroupz. Regards, rtnpro On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Gary C Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Ratnadeep, On 14 Oct 2010, at 17:14, Ratnadeep Debnath wrote: I'll try and get you a quick svg activity icon, probably will be later tomorrow. Thanks Gary. I've followed the same concept as in the original GNOME icon for this application. The detail is a little on the small side, but I think it still works OK and at least has a clear shape: Here are a few renders of the SVG version, this is what the bundle icon will look like: ...and here's a couple of user identity colour activity entries: ..and the actual SVG for use is below: Hope that's of help for your Sugarizing work! Regards, --Gary Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
ping On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Ratnadeep Debnath rtn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Wordnet brings in lots of dependencies, including Tcl. I think you'd be better off bundling the dictionary with your activity. I also had to install the python bindings for espeak. And once I launched it, it didn't seem to have any data loaded... It will be good to have the wordnet dictionary db packaged separately from the wordnet application. Also, wordgroupz, initially is empty, even though it has got a dictionary. wordgroupz is basically like a notebook for noting down new words we come across. But, a dictionary view can also be added to it easily. /usr/share/pixmaps/wordgroupz.png was also missing from line 608 of game.py I'll fix this. And I needed some help to design an icon for wordgroupz for sugar. Any artwork person willing to help? Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
I'll try and get you a quick svg activity icon, probably will be later tomorrow. Thanks Gary. Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Wordnet brings in lots of dependencies, including Tcl. I think you'd be better off bundling the dictionary with your activity. I also had to install the python bindings for espeak. And once I launched it, it didn't seem to have any data loaded... It will be good to have the wordnet dictionary db packaged separately from the wordnet application. Also, wordgroupz, initially is empty, even though it has got a dictionary. wordgroupz is basically like a notebook for noting down new words we come across. But, a dictionary view can also be added to it easily. /usr/share/pixmaps/wordgroupz.png was also missing from line 608 of game.py I'll fix this. And I needed some help to design an icon for wordgroupz for sugar. Any artwork person willing to help? Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
Hi, On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Ratnadeep Debnath rtn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: megs. However wordGroupz may not require the whole stack. NLTK is a highly modular application/framework and could be spliced and packaged by the wordGroupz maintainers. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll start working on this from today itself. I have extracted the requisite code required for getting information from wordnet out of nltk. I have put the code in the 'wordnet.py' in wordgroupz for sugar. I have put the latest bundle at http://rtnpro.fedorapeople.org/wordgroupz/Wordgroupz-1.xo Please verify if its ok. Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Your activity icon contains a link to a file that is not in your .x bundle. Alas, the activity doesn't manage to load the nltk dictionary and hence fails to launch. Could you show me the messages shown when wordgroupz activity failed to launch. Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
Hi, On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: megs. However wordGroupz may not require the whole stack. NLTK is a highly modular application/framework and could be spliced and packaged by the wordGroupz maintainers. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll start working on this from today itself. Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
Hi, Lexicology is the word that means studying words. It includes collecting words, classifying them, researching, learning how to spell it, etc. wordGroupz helps one do such things. I was thinking of activity names for wordGroupz and I came up with the following: 1) Learn Vocabulary 2) Learn words 3) Collect words ( but wordgroupz is more than collecting words) Thanks, Regards, rtnpro On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Sankarshan, On 23 Sep 2010, at 14:36, sankarshan wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: Well done on your release! My *personal* feeling is that you should change the name of the Activity. Ideally, all Sugar Activities should be verbs.[1] I know that many Activities haven't followed the HIG guidelines, but following them demonstrates a level of care. At the very least, I'm not happy with the trailing Z. I don't think encouraging misspelling is entirely suitable for an educational environment. Is there a way to request feedback on names that are along the lines mandated by the HIG ? Sure, if in doubt, post some names you'd consider here. FWIW, it can be tough finding a single verb that makes much sense (and can be quite a pain to change a name later on so is good to settle on a name early as possible). Regards, --Gary -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
Hi, wordgroupz is a vocabulary building application. It's written using PyGTK. wordgroupz details available at http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/wordgroupz-version-0-3-released/ I ported wordgroupz to sugar desktop environment. I tested it on sugar-jhbuild. The following libraries are needed for running wordgroupz: python DB-API 2.0 interface for SQLite 3.x python-sqlite2 pygtk2 python-nltk pywebkitgtk urllib2 python-BeautifulSoup gstreamer-python espeak Sugar bundle for wordgroupz available at http://rtnpro.fedorapeople.org/wordgroupz/Wordgroupz-1.xo Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] wordgroupz ( A vocabulary building app) ported to sugar
Hi, wordgroupz is a vocabulary building application. It's written using PyGTK. wordgroupz details available at http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/wordgroupz-version-0-3-released/ I think wordgroupz will make a good addition to the education tools in sugar. I ported wordgroupz to sugar desktop environment. I tested it on sugar-jhbuild. The following libraries are needed for running wordgroupz: python DB-API 2.0 interface for SQLite 3.x python-sqlite2 pygtk2 python-nltk pywebkitgtk urllib2 python-BeautifulSoup gstreamer-python espeak Sugar bundle for wordgroupz available at http://rtnpro.fedorapeople.org/wordgroupz/Wordgroupz-1.xo Please check if this is satisfactory and feel free to suggest any improvements. I also need an icon for wordgroupz for sugar. Any help will be highly appreciable. Thanks, Regards, rtnpro ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
